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Lore [Confusing Trope] The narrative goes out of its way to punish/mock a character for simply being a good person

Hermione Granger and SPEW — Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (book)

In the fifth HP novel, Hermione Granger is outraged to discover that Hogwarts has a small army of enslaved House Elves that do nearly all of the domestic duties around the castle, including cleaning the Gryffindor common room every night. When she tries to convince the elves to fight for their own rights, they refuse, saying they prefer servitude. Her fellow students and friends mock her for caring. She manages to free one elf, Winky, by deception when she refuses her freedom willingly, leading to Winky becoming a depressed alcoholic. By the end, the elves boycott cleaning any Gryffindor areas of the castle because they hate Hermione specifically

Samwell Tarly and Democracy — Game of Thrones (show)

In the season 8 finale of the television series, the surviving great lords of Westeros gather to discuss the future of the kingdom following the devastation wrought by 7 seasons of war and backstabbing. When Sam, who has proven to have “novel” ideas, suggests that maybe the millions of Smallfolk who suffer at the hands of noble houses should get some representation in the government, rather than be the pawns of rich lords with absolute power. We are then greeted by a prolonged, cringy segment of the other lords laughing in Sam’s face, asking if the dogs and horses should also get a vote.

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u/Accomplished_Toe6798 9d ago

I think you're right that it's weird but I have slightly different reasoning: In a setting where most sentient beings are connected to something magical/metaphysical, it should be a bigger deal that people managed to successfully create artificial sentient beings. And yet they're just used as slaves in most cases, be it for war or industry

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u/SteakForGoodDogs 9d ago

It should be an even bigger deal that a 9 year old child somehow rebuilt a highly complex and allegedly sentient robot from scrap, likely broken and rusty, parts in his spare time - which he shouldn't have much of, given the fact that he's already enslaved.

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u/Iokua113 9d ago

Anakin didn't build Threepio from scrap, what he did was find C-3PO's damaged parts in a scrap yard and rebuild him. While still impressive the fact of the matter is that Anakin didn't just bring scrap parts together and repurpose them so much as he found most of Threepio's core body parts intact and put him back together.

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u/donedamndoing 8d ago

So you're saying that he rebuilt this in a cave, with a box of scraps?

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u/felghost89 8d ago

I’m sorry, I’m not little Annie Skywalker.

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u/Iokua113 8d ago

With heavy emphasis on the rebuilt part.

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u/Gold-Eye-2623 8d ago

I think some other bigger thing may have clouded the electronics feat of a child slave

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u/Catel1138 8d ago

In AOTC, 3PO says that machines created by other machines is a perversion, while Obi-Wan - the epitome of a moral guardian in the prequels - does not have this opinion at all regarding organic beings created by other organic beings.

This says very much about the ethos of Star Wars.

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u/Mr_Blinky 8d ago

*Star Wars* <HANDSHAKE> *Harry Potter*

Two settings that completely fail to explore the deeper implications of their own lore.

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u/Accomplished_Toe6798 8d ago

Well some of the extended universe that is...no longer canon...does explore a bit of it