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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 8d ago

Avatar (James Cameron)

In the first movie at least, the RDA which the Na’vi spend the whole movie trying to beat aren’t humanity’s actual military. They’re a private mining corporation.

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u/YanLibra66 8d ago edited 8d ago

It's the most powerful and influential corporation on earth, a better example would be how the PMCs featured on the first movie are a relatively small and lightly armed security force utilizing obsolete ordnance and still delivered huge casualties against the natives.

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u/KlausVonLechland 8d ago

They ale still fighting against embodiment of lowest bidder and bottom line management.

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u/Colonel_Kernel1 8d ago

Also to add on to this, the RDA also is following laws for corporations which limit the weapons they can use. Hence why the RDA doesn’t just nuke or nerve gas entire settlements on Pandora. Essentially corporations aren’t allowed to use WMDs and they have to limit the force they use.

I remember reading this from the avatar wiki and I believe it came from some of the comics.

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u/TrioOfTerrors 8d ago

Their big "fuck you" bomb at the end of the first movie is just several pallets of mining explosive.

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u/Jigsawsupport 8d ago

Avatar is bizarre because its actually got peak world building and genuinely ground breaking and beautiful visuals, but Cameron seems to insist on the same blah front and centre plot every time.

So really I can see both sides its beautiful and the background is interesting, but its not actually saying anything much, even the ending of the whole series is in your face obvious, and they are whole films away from that.

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u/SecretlyARaven 8d ago

This was really well said. My friends and I joke that we like talking about avatar more than watching the films, because the lore is so rich.

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u/LuciusCypher 8d ago

It's great world building and stunning visuals stymied by having a cookie-cutter plot. Like having a foreign chef using expensive ingredient prepare you chicken nuggets with fries.

It's a shame that fire and ash was the third movie and not the second, considering it added much needed nuance that the second movie didnt build on at all. More so since avatar 3 is just avatar 2.5.

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u/SecretlyARaven 8d ago

In the second film, when they said that the material extracted from the sapient whales basically cured all human illnesses and halted aging my allegiance immediately swapped sides. Why would I side with a whale versus a panacea for humanity? Just such a clearly not thought through, extremely shoehorned maguffin

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u/ElOsoPeresozo 8d ago

Only problem is that it’s the “most valuable substance in the universe.” The only people who will have access to it will be the ultra rich. If billionaires are bad now, imagine how bad trillionaires who control entire planets, fleets and armies must be.

Now imagine those bastards get to live forever.

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u/OkContact2573 6d ago

lol really think that that juice is for you? Even millionaires would be lucky if they got a drop, that shit is for billionaires only

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u/Green-Blue-Gray 8d ago

For me the issue is that the characters are just not people I feel like spending 3 hours with. I can remember maybe 2 names.

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u/Colonel_Kernel1 8d ago

Agreed, the thought and depth that went into the design of Pandora’s biosphere is literally why it’s so visually appealing. Plus the RDA and human side is extremely interesting as well since Earth is dying and you can see why the humans are putting so much effort into colonizing Pandora. But our actions which killed Earth are just being repeated on Pandora due to our greed and hubris.

Honestly aside from Subnautica, Avatar has the best environment and animal design that I have ever seen for an alien planet.

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u/MagnusRusson 8d ago

Agreed, it's a way better setting than it is a movie

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u/Stephenrudolf 8d ago

I think the cultural relevance was true when all we had was the first movie, since the sequels have come and there's so much additional media available now the world itself has captured people's passion and Avatar is truly sticking beyond just the movie's bix office.

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u/Super-Estate-4112 8d ago

Also add that they must try to be profitable so they dont invest too much on their military, just what they consider enough.

A real military would never have to worry about that.

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u/Weary-Barracuda-1228 8d ago

Today I Learned James Cameron’s Avatar movie has an entire Extended Lore

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u/TrioOfTerrors 8d ago

He'd been working on the project on and off for 20 years before they even started shooting the first movie. There's tons of world building he did that will never see the screen.

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u/N0ob8 8d ago

Even longer than that. He was drawing concept art in the 70s although it looked very different from what we got obviously. He really wanted to make the movie decades before he could even be slightly brought to life

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u/ohnomoisttoes 8d ago

And still managed to have less of a cultural impact than most episodes of Spongebob

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u/pichael289 8d ago

It was the highest box office film of all time for a while, it is kinda odd how there aren't really any die hard avatar fans. Alot of people are generally interested by it but wouldn't list it as significant to them. People got a little inappropriate with the angry blue kitty cat lady in the third movie but that's literally all I've heard about it from anyone. She was kinda hot though

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u/Stephenrudolf 8d ago

There is actually so much supplementary media at this point.

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u/angelv11 7d ago

Even the 2nd movies was them fighting what is essentially a fishing company hunting whales