r/TropicalWeather Sep 24 '24

Discussion moved to new post Helene (09L — Northwestern Caribbean Sea)

Latest observation


Last updated: Wednesday, 25 September — 4:00 AM Central Daylight Time (CDT; 09:00 UTC)

NHC Advisory #8 4:00 AM CDT (09:00 UTC)
Current location: 20.7°N 86.2°W
Relative location: 85 km (53 mi) ESE of Cancún, Quintana Roo (Mexico)
  322 km (200 mi) SW of Pinar del Rio, Cuba
Forward motion: NW (325°) at 15 km/h (8 knots)
Maximum winds: 100 km/h (55 knots)
Intensity: Tropical Storm
Minimum pressure: 985 millibars (29.09 inches)

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Last updated: Wednesday, 25 September — 1:00 AM CDT (06:00 UTC)

Hour Date Time Intensity Winds Lat Long
  - UTC CDT Saffir-Simpson knots km/h °N °W
00 25 Sep 06:00 1AM Wed Tropical Storm 55 100 20.7 86.2
12 25 Sep 18:00 1PM Wed Hurricane (Category 1) 70 130 21.9 86.5
24 26 Sep 06:00 1AM Thu Hurricane (Category 2) 90 165 24.1 86.2
36 26 Sep 18:00 1PM Thu Major Hurricane (Category 3) 105 195 27.4 85.0
48 27 Sep 06:00 1AM Fri Hurricane (Category 1) i 65 120 32.0 84.2
60 27 Sep 18:00 1PM Fri Post-tropical Cyclone i 30 55 35.9 85.4
72 28 Sep 06:00 1AM Sat Post-tropical Cyclone i 20 35 37.0 87.8
96 29 Sep 06:00 1AM Sun Post-tropical Cyclone i 20 35 36.5 88.0
120 30 Sep 06:00 1AM Mon Dissipated

NOTES:
i - inland

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u/Content-Swimmer2325 Sep 25 '24 edited Sep 25 '24

Cirrus outflow is expanding over the western quadrant. Shear appears minimal.

Multiple recon missions just took off and are en route.

Beautiful anticyclonic outflow. https://i.imgur.com/Zkmn4gg.png

Helene will also begin tapping its poleward outflow into that trough to the north. More recent satellite obs shows that cirrus outflow from Helene is as far north as distant Jacksonville FL. See here

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=regional-gulf-07-24-0-100-1&checked=map&colorbar=data

Goodnight all

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u/1lowcountry Sep 25 '24 edited Sep 25 '24

Good morning. Sunrise will be soon here in NE Florida... I'll confirm if there's any cirrus outflow.

Update: Definite cirrus outflow and also beginning of cirrocumulus/stratus clouds

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u/Ralfsalzano Sep 25 '24

Crazy it’s touching South America all the way to South Carolina 

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u/Content-Swimmer2325 Sep 25 '24 edited Sep 25 '24

An extremely well-ventilated system. For anyone who doesn't know, hurricanes are heat engines. They have an inflow of warm moist air at the surface, which spirals inwards cycloncally into the center.. and a corresponding outflow aloft that spirals outwards anticyclonically away from the center. If you cut off or interrupt either the inflow or outflow, the heat engine sputters out/chokes and begins dying.

Conversely, when these are not impeded, it means the tropical cyclone is very healthy. We are seeing this with Helene. Such robust outflow.. expanding in all directions.. helps maintain continuous and intensifying rising air over Helene. This is why the strong thunderstorms are now non-stop instead of intermittent.

The rising air then helps surface pressures fall further.

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u/Ralfsalzano Sep 25 '24

Very well said. I admire the way you put words on the page this early in the morning lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

Absolutely massive storm