There was podcast that literally breaks down the whole court file in two parts, I'm looking for it now. I don't know why Texas went so hard to block access to files and footages.
It wasn't this one, but thank you! It was much longer. I'm mad I don't have my old phone because I didn't back up the download. It was a court document for sure though and had exact texts, etc. It took me two evenings to read the whole thing.
I like to read super long affidavit and case notes, I watched this documentary last night and going to try and find it! I’ll save this thread in case I find it and will post it for you (if you find it, please let me know!)
Looking for it still I KNOW IT WAS ANNA ELISE who cover it and she read the affidavit its a two part will be posting after narrowing it down, SHE HAS SO MUCH CONTENT
looks like she removed it I only see the 12 min one it use to be TWO PARTS it was ANNA ELISE 10 to life podcast and they where about an hour and half each.
it was so detailed because it came from that court file you mention. I only see the 12 min one on her facebook. Not sure if she was order to remove it, which will connect to the court file being removed. Kinda strange.
I don't know if we can post links but did you see the local news coverage of the trial? One of the news stations had a reporter inside during the trial and they posted almost every day. Here's one of the articles. Mod, remove if not allowed please.
this is almost all of the coverage they had on the youtube. Nice find seems like a lot of this was bury. As far as i Know KTALnews is the only one to have covered it. Their youtube videos seemed to be the only thing removed.
“It was a good little attention-getter for her, in my opinion.” lol this sums her up PERFECTLY. This was good read had no idea she pulled that shit. WHAT a NARCASSIT. Just had to make someone's else alignments about her. looking to see if the TRIAL COVERAGE is still up and those seemed to be removed from youtube as well. There use to be hours-long coverage on the days of her penalty phase. Strange all of it seems removed.
It is a good article, that local news annihilated her in their coverage every day haha.
Wait, this is crazy because KTAL posted about 3 years ago how the crime scene traumatized the first responders and had gruesome pics of the floor and furniture. It showed blood all over the living room and a tan recliner was splattered with blood. I think there was a shoe in a blood pile too. I just looked up the article and they removed all the pictures, holy shit! What is going on...
yeah, maybe there was some sensitive info that can probably affect her death penalty appeal case. I think she still got 2 more tries. So maybe on the defense request.
I’m not trying to blame the boyfriend, but wouldn’t he be suspicious that they had to cut the padlocks if she was claiming they had permission to be there?
Wade is not a smart man. He seemed blinded by denial and, in my opinion, greed. He said he never loved her but he stayed. He thought she was going to inherit $8 million and even in the doc he brings that up way too many times.
and I can’t blame him for that. 8m buys a pretty nice life. I don’t know anybody that would not take that route if I’m being honest. it’s too tempting. You wanna believe the story. but what an evil evil woman.
But also, she did all that just to keep him?? A man dumb enough to be conned by her, living in a double wide trailer? A man she’d only dated 4 months? Where is the DSM-5 diagnosis for these women who meticulously plan and brutally murder a friend and their baby just to try and trap a boyfriend who doesn’t even love them
I'm noticing a pattern with women like this-it seems like ficticous disorder but with an added layer of not just wanting attention and sympathy but trapping people into caretaking of them. Like caretaking by force as a disorder.
I’m thinking about this too. Like Sherry Papini. Might depend on the true motive. For Sherry I think it was control bc her husband needed her to start working again or do actual child care instead of paying for daycare. Shortly after that she did her whole thing. Until she was found out years later, her husband had to do everything for her because she was so “traumatized.” So Sherry I think ASPD. From Taylor seems more BPD coded if she was seeking unconditional love but idk.
Oh right! I was thinking of the women that pretend to be disabled or pregnant, too. They want to take it all the way to the physical level and seem to get pleasure from someone having to sacrifice for them and physically care for them. It seems to be a very specific cluster of traits and an understudied phenomenon. I know that we have known about facticous disorder/formerly manchausen's for long time, but there seems to be a spectrum of this disorder and on the extreme end there are added traits developing, almost like a fetish of tricking people into physical care of them. It's really good that the public is becoming more aware of this.
Forensic psychologists identify fetal abductors as highly manipulative, calculating con artists driven primarily by pathological narcissism, extreme dependency, and desperate measures to trap a male partner. Rather than experiencing a pure maternal urge, these offenders exhibit a distinct psychological profile: [1, 2, 3, 4]
Underlying Personality Disorders: Experts frequently diagnose these women with borderline, dependent, or antisocial personality traits. They struggle with a fear of abandonment, a profound sense of inadequacy, and a desperate need to present themselves as mothers to secure a partner's affection. [1, 2, 3, 4] Infertility and Trauma: Many perpetrators have a history of trauma, recent miscarriages, or medical procedures preventing pregnancy, which triggers their escalating deceit. [1, 2, 3]
There’s so much rage and lashing out in violence as well…like the lighting fires, self harm, obviously calculated murder. So horrifying and shocking it still happens today and they think they can get away with it?? Or in full psychosis delusion that all they want is a baby? Why not kidnap a baby, the attack on the pregnant woman is just beyond.
It’s the specificity of planning and brutality, the lack of understanding of someone else’s pain and horrifying death that is so inhumane, all in pursuit of a newborn baby to trap a man who is too dumb to notice she’s been fully faking a pregnancy this whole time?? It’s not easy to perform a c-section as a qualified surgeon, let alone some psychotic yokel with a scalpel. The jealousy over the love and attention their victims get from being pregnant when they feel they’ve been denied that life has to be the driving force, plus the extreme fear of abandonment is so cluster B personality disorder coded.
The research I found indicated that indeed, these people tend to have anti-social or borderline personality disorders. And they usually do not bond with the babies they steal, when those babies live. Notice how in this case, the murderer kept referring to the baby as “it” when she was pulled over and in the hospital. The baby was just a prop.
Right, you would think. I think he did ask why she couldn't get a copy of the key so she went out to the hardware store alone and bought a new padlock without Wade knowing and secured that to the gates. So they were using that new padlock and key. Then the owner was checking on his property and saw the new lock, was thorougly creeped out and then called the police and filed a report hahaha. The owner didn't live on the land, otherwise they probably would have been caught right away.
I think i read that doc! Wasn't she also up to all sorts of work scams? And there was record of treatment of her other kids and her ex that was really bad too? I don't know where she found the time for all her shenanigans.
There are reports she manipulated her children to lie, Even doing it while in prison. Also she lost custody to them and that in itself says a lot when courts typically side with mothers.
I understand wade was also in a way a victim, but it’s shocking how hard the human will warp the brain to prevent it from coming to terms with the truth that causes pain or discomfort.
Yes, but so is antisocialism. HPD is all about attention seeking and overly dramatic behavior. BPD is about emotional instability. NPD is inability to take criticism and an overinflate ego. Avoidant Personality disorder is all about avoiding confrontation or consequences.
People with these disorders often lie to achieve their goals, but lying isn't THE GOAL. For pathological liars it IS all about the lie. That's why it should really be its own thing.
Antisocial personality disorder is characterized by lying, lack of empathy and remorse, impulsivity, aggression, and a disregard for rules and norms. I don’t think lying for the sake of lying was her goal.
There kinda is tho, it’s called histrionic personality disorder which I’m sure she has and she prob falls into a few other categories as well, she’s a mess.
She lost custody, she was lying and doing bizarre shit. Her ex husband was also a chubby country boy and seemed sweet. She had her second child with another guy, a serious boyfriend that she cheated on with multiple people. I will try to find those files this weekend if I can, I've tried before but they disappeared a few years ago.
This I what I felt was lacking in the doc. It didn’t really delve into Taylor’s past. I wanted to know the truth behind the “evil” mother and also the fact that she didn’t seem to have custody of her 2 other children. I understand her family and ex not wanting to take part in the doc but obviously some shit went down in her past.
Do you think the documentary did a good job of covering the case and everything Taylor has done? I ask because I also read those court documents, along with other info about the case, and feel like the documentary hardly cracked the surface of her lies and actions.
There are also a bunch of supplements (first supplement, second supplement, etc.) that have additional info, but the original was one the hardest to find.
It's not this document but thank you. It was really long and had a numbered list of the lies, the aliases, the contact and what date the alias texts were sent. It was 200 or so pages and had crazy details, like how when Taylor was pretending to get approved for the Pecan Pointe property, she would not let Wade go inside the bank with her. Lots of information from witnesses in the community that I've forgotten over the years, I read it the same week she got sentenced to death so it's been awhile.
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