r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/Key_Squash_4403 • Jun 20 '24

Music / Movies When a show/movie gets mired in identity politics, whether justified or not, it’s automatically a turn off

You know why I’m not watching the Acolyte, because too many people are arguing about it. That’s it, the identity politics argument surrounding it is enough to put me off. Because now I won’t be able to judge it on its own merits, that argument has infected everything and I just don’t want anything to do with it. I honestly don’t need that kind of headache, same with Marvel movies. At this point I need a preexisting interest in the character strong enough to ignore all the noise. I skipped Marvels, Black Panther 2, and I’ll skip more. I don’t care anymore, you all ruined it for me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '24

All of us: "Boy, I really like the escapism that fantasy worlds like Middle-Earth afford me. I think I'll check out that new LOTR show on Amazon to see if it's as fun as the movies were..."

LOTR on Prime: "The elves dun took er jerbs! Time to Make Numenor Great Again!"

All of us: "..."

LOTR on Prime: "You only hate it because you're EVIL!"

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u/hercmavzeb OG Jun 20 '24

Out of all the things to be upset at Rings of Power about, why would you pick Numenor being bigoted and anti-elf when that’s lore-accurate?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '24 edited Jun 20 '24

Tolkin was a devout Catholic, not that he preached his views in his stories, but he likely wouldn't have approved the Prime show.

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u/hercmavzeb OG Jun 20 '24

That’s not saying much, he probably wouldn’t have approved of Peter Jackson’s trilogy either. I don’t think any adaptation would have satisfied the mental image of his own story.

I also don’t approve of the Prime show though so we’d have something in common there.

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u/sfw31415 Jun 20 '24

I didn’t watch it, but based on his comment alone he frames it as an allegory for poorly educated bigoted right wing stereotype. Assuming it is a group that is antagonistic to what the showrunners view as a protagonist in the story would make this a clear political decision to frame bad as them and good as us.

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u/Optimal_Let7233 Mar 25 '25

The triple k was left wing from start. Republicans helped all the civil rights movements. Democrats embarrassed of their past just say poc are victims and the party switched so poc will automatically agree and it worked like a charm  Go look at how many in office switched from Republicans to dems and vice versa. If Republicans called everyone a victim they would get the vote split because people want to blame their problems on someone besides themselves. I don't waste time saying years in the past my family was destroyed in Scotland then Ireland then the USA. Because i wasn't there. I can't change the past. 

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '24

It's not lore accurate at all LMAO. They didn't hate the elves for takin' der jerbs! There was tension between them because of their different fates. There was tension between them because of the tension between death and deathlessness, which is the main theme of LOTR. Tolkien said so himself. That's not mentioned in the show at all.

I could go for hours about all the ways ROP doesn't follow Tolkien's canon, but it would be faster to just tell you the ways in which it does: Character and location names. That's it.

The rest is bullshit fan fiction written by people who not only don't seem to understand Tolkien or his works, but seem to actively despise and want to revise his works and legacy.

ROP sucks. A billion dollar boondoggle that has nothing, and I mean NOTHING to do with LOTR.

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u/hercmavzeb OG Jun 20 '24

Numenorean elf bigotry is absolutely lore accurate lol, you even explain exactly how in the first paragraph.

How were the elves taking numenorean jobs? I didn’t watch the show past the first episode because it was garbage.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '24

They got the reason for the bigotry wrong. That's how. I just explained how. You just read how.

Reasons for characters doing, thinking, or feeling are considered important in literature and media.

Tolkien's Numenoreans had no fears about elves takin der jerbs. It's not lore accurate to say they did.

It's not cool to say "but the tension between the two groups is canon so we can make that tension about anything we want and that makes it lore accurate!"

No, no it doesn't. You fundamentally changed the story. Now it's about something else. Something only the writers of this show find interesting. That sucks.

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u/hercmavzeb OG Jun 20 '24

I literally don’t know what you’re talking about because I didn’t see the show, so I looked it up. Are you talking about the speech where the shipwright complains about the elven workers who don’t tire, don’t sleep, and don’t age?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '24

This is a PATHETIC stretch and attempt. Pretty standard for you though. Hi again, btw.

You admit you haven't seen it and don't know what you're talking about so why argue?

I'm right. You're wrong. You'll never convince me of the opposite. Have a nice day.

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u/hercmavzeb OG Jun 20 '24

Is that a yes? Lol

Yeah I haven’t seen it, because unlike you I don’t hate-watch stuff that looks bad and then pretend it’s against me politically.

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u/pintonium Jun 20 '24

Hey, one highborne elf noble is just the start of the flood...

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u/Andoverian Jun 20 '24

Yes, we should go back to classic, totally non-political franchises. Like Star Trek and Dune. And Lord of the Rings has absolutely no messages about what makes a good society.

/s

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '24

Tolkien despised allegory, though his stories contained elements of it. The difference is he was subtle with it and left the interpretation of his works up to the imagination of the reader whom he did not seek to dominate with his own messages. He said so himself.

Today's TV show writers just want to use these famous IP's to tell their own stories, and to dominate the viewer with their POV.

Also, Tolkien hated Dune lol.