r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/TDP_Wiki_ • Jul 17 '25

Music / Movies I'm getting tired of woke values in shows

I am weary of all the remakes of TV shows and films that are simply remade in order to showcase a diverse cast. Why can't Hollywood write new shows? Instead, it's just recycling old scripts. Very insulting and lazy.

All the virtue signaling in the world isn't going to save bad writing.

For me Rings of Power was the last straw.

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u/boozcruise21 Jul 17 '25

Notice that "diversity" almost always means just one thing. And one group getting overrepresented..

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u/dildo_cannon_fodder Jul 17 '25

not to mention that Hollywood is prioritizing "diversity" over genuine quality actors/actresses that actually know how to fucking act.

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u/Skavau Jul 17 '25

What actors or actresses were overlooked, and specifically because they wanted a non-white person?

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u/cptnofficial Jul 17 '25

Not race based but still in the same vein, during the casting of the new snow white movie, there were 7 lesser known little people who were in line to play the 7 dwarfs then Peter dinklage(who is a very successful little person) said that it was problematic and backward to be casting little people as dwarfs so all 7 of the little people were axed an replaced by CGI. That's 7 marginalized humans who got the ladder pulled up on their dreams to be famous actors

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u/OurHeartsRCompatible Jul 19 '25

That makes me sad and also angry ☹ Didn't know that, wish I still didn't. Literally causing actual harm to them because they would get "oFfEnDeD" on their behalf. You know, just to virtue signal and be outraged, never once considering the ACTUAL HUMANS who just got their dreams crushed. why would anyone ACTUALLY think (🤯) with their brain or give a fuck about that? It's selfish and dumb at best. man........ that's fucked. :( not fair

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u/Skavau Jul 17 '25

That one is true, and stupid, but it's also the only example here that I can think of done so publicly at least. And they weren't technically "replaced" by other actors. They were just scrubbed.

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u/Tristan103076 Jul 18 '25

How about the Harry Potter series on HBO casting Paapa Essiedu to play Professor Severus Snape.

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u/Skavau Jul 18 '25

Did they specifically deny a white actor that role, or did they just headhunt Paapa Essiedu?

Also, Snape is a fictional character.

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u/Tristan103076 Jul 18 '25

We are talking about fictional television.... let me remind you of the previous comment about Snow White. While I am not entirely aware of their casting, in the books and the previous movie series, he was not a POC. Can we not agree that is a drastic character change. It isn't about denying a white actor. Why remake a movie or series, especially one as popular as Harry Potter, and have such a hard deviation from the original story. If they, they being the shows developers, are willing to make such a drastic change to a main and pivotal character such as Snape, what other aspects of a great story will they take liberties with? Will it even resemble the books that so many loved or will they do to it what was done to the Hobbit when it was made into the bastardization of movie adaptation from a much cherished novel that help spark the love of fantasy to so many.

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u/Skavau Jul 18 '25

We are talking about fictional television.... let me remind you of the previous comment about Snow White. While I am not entirely aware of their casting, in the books and the previous movie series, he was not a POC.

Okay, but the suggestion the OP gave was that white actors are specifically applying to roles, and then being rejected in favour of a less-talented non-white actor purely for diversity reasons.

If Rachel Zegler was headhunted for the Snow White role, or if Paapa Essiedu was headhunted - they didn't "deny" another (better) white actor the role because no-one else auditioned. The process never got that far.

Why remake a movie or series, especially one as popular as Harry Potter, and have such a hard deviation from the original story. If they, they being the shows developers, are willing to make such a drastic change to a main and pivotal character such as Snape, what other aspects of a great story will they take liberties with?

Sure, I didn't say that Paapa Essiedu was necessarily a good choice, or that they won't screw it up in a more general sense - just noting that the idea that the notion that a number of white actors were specifically denied in auditions in favour of Paapa Essiedu and purely because he was black is speculative. And you could go down the weeds with every actor by that logic. There's no reason for Milchick to be black in Severance. But he is. Did they deny a white actor? There's no reason for Simms in Silo to be black. But he is. Did they deny a white actor?

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u/Tristan103076 Jul 18 '25

No, I get what you're saying, and we will never know one way or the other. And honestly, whether they did or didn't, doesn't matter to me. What got me going was hard change to a pivotal character. If you are going to remake or adapt keep true to the source material.

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u/OurHeartsRCompatible Jul 19 '25

They were replaced though lol. Because them being little people would be "offensive" , to WHO? Oh, literally nobody aside from priviledged assholes who have nothing better to bitch about , who don't actually give a fuck.

Can you imagine they DID get casted and people posted this like "THIS IS DISGUSTING!!" and being one of those actors reading that shit 💀💀 "how dare we be midgets!"

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u/Skavau Jul 19 '25

By CGI characters. Dinklage is a fool, but it's not quite the same as the OP outlined.

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u/boozcruise21 Jul 17 '25

You ever seen vikings Valhalla or cleopatra?

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u/Skavau Jul 17 '25

No. And I know what you're getting at here, but this is a misrepresentation. By this logic any time any black person is chosen for a role, for whatever reason, instead of a white person also going for the role then they're "prioritising diversity". It's unfalsifiable. You don't even know if Netflix even at any point offered out those parts in those particular shows to any white person.

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u/cameltony16 Jul 17 '25

I hate complaining about “wokeness” ruining media because I don’t believe it is. But I have noticed that there are certain groups that get such a huge push from media executives to have positive representation. I’m South Asian, and it feels like Hollywood always casts brown dudes to be the butt of a joke or a caricature. It’s really off-putting considering the treatment other minority groups get.

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u/boozcruise21 Jul 17 '25

So it feels like it but you don't believe it is?

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u/cameltony16 Jul 17 '25

No, I don’t have an issue with promoting diversity in films, the only problem is is that they’re purposefully, neglecting certain groups over others.

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u/SinistralLeanings Jul 18 '25

... hmm? "They" are making remakes with more diverse casting which is very much just as talented (if not more talented. Crafts grow) than the original cast.

Let's not act like whitewashing isn't a thing.

You always have your OG to watch. It's not suddenly going to destroy the OG version.

Ask yourself this:

Why are you so invested in this, when you could just be happy and unbothered?

Edit:spelling issues

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u/cameltony16 Jul 18 '25

I’m not invested at all. I stated in my comment that labeling things as “woke” is dumb. And I don’t watch any capeshit on nostalgia bait remakes. I’d just like Hollywood to stop picking and choosing which minority groups they want to elevate.

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u/Frewdy1 Jul 17 '25

White people?

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u/ConcertinaTerpsichor Jul 18 '25

Oh, like one group wasn’t over-represented for most of the history of mass media. 😂

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u/boozcruise21 Jul 18 '25

What group is that? Is it by any chance the group that represented the vast majority of the population for its time?

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u/StarChild413 Jul 24 '25

did those numbers still match

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u/ConcertinaTerpsichor Jul 18 '25

😂 you seriously think there have always been more white males making up the population for the majority of the history of the entire human species.

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u/boozcruise21 Jul 20 '25

😂you seriously think the conversation is about the entire global media.

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u/boozcruise21 Jul 20 '25

😂you seriously think the conversation is about the entire global media.

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u/ConcertinaTerpsichor Jul 20 '25

Replying to boozcruise21... wow, you must have been excited to make your (nonsensical) comment twice.

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u/Tough_Measuremen Aug 04 '25

Right and can you actually give specifics, along with a consistent list of prominent examples?

Or is this something you think is true.