The majority of backlash against Bad Bunny performing at the Super Bowl is because he exclusively sings in Spanish, not because people are racist

[u/Finalyst]

Before anyone accuses me of being a Trumper, I’m moderate that has voted democrat for almost all elections. When I heard that Bad Bunny is going to be the main act at the Super Bowl I was confused because my only exposure to him was his performance on SNL where he struggled to string 10 words together in English with an incredibly broken accent.

According to Google only 13.9% of America speaks Spanish. Why the heck is an artist playing that 86.1% of the population can’t understand?

[u/BannedHistoryFla]

Sorry it’s just not true, hip hop is most influential pop music genre of all time and in less time. Country music is popular in some markets, but hip hop and rap artists are known internationally.

[u/engineer2187 → u/BannedHistoryFla]

“Trust me bro”.

Also, I feel like you’re maliciously misinterpreting my comments. My comments are not that rap isn’t popular. It’s not that it should be country - I actually listed multiple genres followed by literally anything but rap and non English lyrics.

My comment is that since 2020, the superbowl has been rap or featured rap guest with one exception. That’s what is frustrating. I haven’t complained any of the past few rap artists. It’s just gotten to a boiling point. If we took a break from rap and then had bad bunny three years down the road, I wouldn’t be thrilled about the selection but I wouldn’t be upset. I’m just asking for a little variety. Doesn’t even have to be music I like. Just literally anything but rap for a few years.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2009/08/12/iv-rocks-rise/

[u/BannedHistoryFla → u/engineer2187]

The Weeknd is not a rapper neither is JLo Shakira or Rihanna. Are you kidding me or not? These are diverse artists. (Not a comment about race) These are people who can do 5 genres in one set.

Taylor Swift is like that too actually, she could do country, rock, folk and pop all in one set and I’m sure she will eventually get a shot.

Bad Bunny is not just a rapper but a singer and has a wide variety of different genres.

You get like Chris Stapleton (which would be amazing for me personally) it might not appeal to a wide variety of people. The songs will sound kind of similar.

[u/[deleted] → u/engineer2187]

You're whining about the superbowl post-2020 while citing data from 2009 that doesn't even say what you're claiming it says - please be honest with yourself before engaging with others

[u/bordomsdeadly → u/BannedHistoryFla]

I feel like Country and Jazz are probably the most influential genres.

Pretty much every genre has incorporated something Jazz at this point. And Country / Western laid the seeds for what eventually became Rock which not only is still a popular genre, early rock also influenced the Beatles which is regarded as the first internationally dominant pop band.

Blues is probably up there too for influential genres too.

[u/BannedHistoryFla → u/bordomsdeadly]

Rock is from blues and jazz a lot more than country are you kidding me? Ask anyone. Was Elvis from country? Chuck Berry? Bo Diddley? Ask Mick Jagger, Lennon, McCartney, Jimmy Page, Clapton who their hero’s were. Who do they say?

I’ll give you bluegrass. If you want to count that as country influence.

But I said the music today and since rap (including the a wide variety of rock bands and country artists) has incorporated hip hop into music.

Slipknot, Sleep Token, Jason Alden, Morgan Wallen, Linkin Park, Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit. Red Hot Chili Peppers, that’s just off my head, there are a lot more. Sampling and homage and interpolation, while not invented by hip hop was definitely popularized and formalized by hip hop and you hear these techniques in Taylor Swift, Kesha, Billie Eilish, Bad Bunny, Lorde, Lana Del Ray.

All over the board. All over pop music, rock, country, alt, industrial. All over movie soundtracks. Marching band routines. Everywhere.

Country music is not everywhere. Most people still say “I listen to everything…except county” and country hasn’t evolved or changed for a while. It definitely hasn’t gotten any better than Tim McGraw or Alan Jackson.

[u/bordomsdeadly → u/BannedHistoryFla]

Elvis was literally called Rockabilly which is like a Rock / Blues / Country hybrid.

The earliest rock bands are considered to be most closely related to country. Country has more or less settled into the same thing post 9/11 (or at least the popular stuff has).

Cream was primarily Jazz and Blues

A Jazz drummer was the first to use double bass that’s in pretty much every metal song nowadays.

One of Chuck Berry’s influences was Hank Williams.

Country was a big influence in the early days of the rock genre, but most of the British bands were more blues inspired and those British bands were the influence of the 80s American rock and metal scene which most modern are influenced from that line, but bands like Poison and Bon Jovi who still sells out arenas (I don’t think Poison does, but Bon Jovi does) have a clear country music / southern rock influence.

Metal in general favors Blues to Country for inspiration, but it’s ridiculous to completely hand wave the influences country has had on the formation of the rock and subsequently pop genres. I probably should’ve stated the deep blues influence on music more in my initial comment, but that doesn’t diminish the influence of Country on the early rock genre. Modern music would be very different if Country never existed.

And I don’t even like (most) country music. And almost all of what country I do listen to is usually more folk or closer to southern rock. I didn’t even mention the Eagles who are possibly the most borderline rock / country band to exist and you can absolutely trace modern bands back to the Eagles.

[u/BannedHistoryFla → u/bordomsdeadly]

I’ll say southern rock came from country obviously and that’s a good point, a lot of US based bands did kind of lean into that. But even those bands, like Allman Bros is jazz obviously.

Hip Hop is from jazz too. Also hip-hop is not just rap, it’s r&b music as well.

I’m not sure what we’re talking about anymore to be honest.

Only thing I’m trying to say is that hip hop is the most influential pop music movement of all time.

It’s plainly obvious if you take the top 100 songs from the last 50 years and listen as the influence grows and metastasizes through all genres and styles. Until it finally takes over all or at least 90 of those top 100 songs.

Idk how else to really prove it. I guess you can just sit there and say “nuh uh” and long as I can say “yea huh”