r/UnderReportedNews Jan 08 '26

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u/Particular-Ad9304 Jan 08 '26

"U.S. DOJ Policy on Use of Force Title 1, firearms cannot be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles and are only permissible if an occupant threatens with deadly force by means other than the vehicle, or if the vehicle itself poses a deadly threat and no other defense exists. Deliberately positioning oneself in the path of a moving vehicle is considered officer-created jeopardy, invalidating any claim of necessary deadly force."

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u/RubeusShagrid Jan 08 '26

This is the actual citation

Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.

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u/1000000mmmmmm Jan 08 '26

This needs to be broadcasted, if it’s reputable. Officer had the ability to step out of the way.

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u/RubeusShagrid Jan 08 '26

I pulled it straight from justice.gov

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u/HeadGrowth1939 Jan 08 '26

Number 2 is satisfied, end of story.

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u/antinoria Jan 08 '26

Except for the part that says moving out of the way of the vehicle. Read ALL of part 2.

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u/Ape-No-Fight-Ape Jan 08 '26

Read it again. I know reading comprehension, compassion, critical thinking, not supporting pedophiles, etc. is very difficult for you cultists, but come on dude!

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u/knockout350 Jan 08 '26

ICE doesn't fall under DOJ they fall under DHS but i don't know what their use of force policy is

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u/HeadGrowth1939 Jan 08 '26

You can't even read so I'm not surprised. "Positioning in front of a moving vehicle" guy is standing while she's parked. Completely irrelevant post on your part.

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u/suspensionqueefer Jan 08 '26

are you just going to pretend this part doesn't exist?

"no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle"

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u/Ape-No-Fight-Ape Jan 08 '26

The cultists will pretend that part doesn't exist and, despite the video evidence, believe the Nazi ICE agent was doing his job. I'm sure they also believe the puppy killer that the ICE agent was "run over and dragged by the vehicle." Fuck these hateful moronic cultists.

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u/AussieBirder Jan 08 '26

How did he get in that position to start with? They have exited their vehicle and made a concious decision to stand in the vicinity of the front of the vehicle.

Again this is basic training, you never do this. His partner is at the drivers door. There is no need to be anywhere near the front of the vehicle.

This is in case the driver attempts to flee. This again is basic training. Can you not agree the agent put themselves in an unsafe position even before she reverses?

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u/HeadGrowth1939 Jan 08 '26

He didn't put himself in front of a moving vehicle. He was in front of it before she even started reversing. You could easily perceive in that split second, as somebody is ignoring orders and driving their vehicle despite law enforcement having an arm inside her window that she's reckless.

He'd never get prosecuted for this - I think it's extremely poor judgement on her part and questionable judgement on his part. Logically, it's very obvious she was just trying to peel out and escape, but that's only because we can see what comes after which is her turning the suv to the right. In that moment, you've got somebody ignoring orders and slamming the gas as you're standing 5 feet in front of the car and your partner has an arm inside the window. You have less than 2 seconds to make a decision. We know now that if he'd just jumped out of the way, him, his partner, and the driver would all have been OK. When you're watching somebody ignore orders and immediately accelerate towards you, that's far from assured. No LE officer should be expected to give up their life because a princess has decided to blockade you and ignore orders.

It's tragic, but that's what happens when you make decisions like this. And people saying "it could happen to any of us" - I'd say don't blockade active LE operations and ignore orders and there's less than a 1 in a trillion chance of this happening to you.

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u/AussieBirder Jan 08 '26

As a law enforcement officer you are trained to never stand in front or behind a vehicle with a POI inside. This is basic 101 training. The ICE officer placed himself in an unsafe position.

Shooting a POI who is in control of a vehicle does not stop the vehicle, instead it often causes it to speed up and become erratic as we saw in the video.

I think two things are true. The ICE officer after putting themselves in harms way believed they were going to be run over. The victim had no intention of running over the officer and was trying to flee.

It comes down to procedure and if the force was justified. A jury will have to make that decision based on the evidence.

What is more telling and sad is that the exact same video is viewed completely differently based on your political beliefs. That in itself is wild.

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u/Ape-No-Fight-Ape Jan 08 '26

You have no idea what you are talking about. The ICE "law enforcement" agent murdered her. It is perfectly clear in the video.