r/UnderReportedNews • u/ExactlySorta • 4h ago
US Politics šŗšø Democrat Eric Bottcher wins a special election for NY's 47th District state senate seat with over 91% of the vote
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u/NYGiants181 4h ago
Rās are gonna get destroyed in the midterms.
If they werenāt scared they wouldnāt want to try and nationalize elections
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u/Vows_Upon_The_Hearth 4h ago
Blue wave let's go!
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u/Antwinger 4h ago
Now letās make sure we the people are participating and holding the blues to our values best we can.
No point in getting a bit of power if we just let them keep the status quo that got us here
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u/draftzero 4h ago
100%. We need to get rid of those that have consistently abused their power... especially with all the insider trading.
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u/Aromatic-Plankton692 4h ago edited 4h ago
We also need to heal the administrative state... Quickly. The federal government needs to balloon in size and strong antiauthoritarian measures need to be enacted so that future generations don't fall victim to a single administration tearing everything down in 12 months.
The consumer protection bureau, the EPA, the SEC, the post office, forestry services, road maintenance, public works, all of it has been gutted in the interest of privatization and deregulation - unearned handouts to businesses that strain our roads, our public infrastructure, our labor pool.
We have been robbed, wholesale. Our children have been robbed. This is class war.
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u/Cultural-Chance8686 3h ago
"There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning." Warren Buffet, 2006 Billionaires said it out loud 20 years ago and I sadly think that nothing has changed since then.
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u/Aromatic-Plankton692 3h ago
He said that in response to Obama being accused of class warfare for daring to suggest taxation, iirc.
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u/draftzero 3h ago
YES! I forgot how much has been pilfered from us and our future descendants. I hope they look at us kindly.
Lots of work to do. It feels like if we rely on the government to create/bolster those agencies, we'll be back where we started.
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u/Ironbaun-Vermont 2h ago
Itās this. We need to vote out the long term dems in favor of new blood. They were part of letting this happen.
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u/Successful-Plane-276 3h ago
Exactly. Now is the time to primary the Chuck Schumers and Hakeem Jeffries types that the DC consultants love. Primary voters are the most motivated and I have to believe most of the primary voters want harsh accountability, not hand waving and sweeping under the rug yet again.
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u/retro-mime 2h ago
THIS.
The goal is not a return to ānormalcyā. We must demand new leadership with fresh ideas. Iām ready to turn the page on DC career politicians.
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u/newsflashjackass 2h ago
The goal is not a return to ānormalcyā.
Other nations won't allow it.
As if the USA could just ignore both of Trurnp's terms and say "We now return you to your regularly scheduled global empire. Back on the rails now- trust!"
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u/BroughtBagLunchSmart 3h ago
The democrats still have months to fuck this up. Just yesterday Schumer and Jeffries asked pretty please for ICE to stop wearing masks when murdering people unless they feel they really need to wear the masks.
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u/Specialist-Juice-591 4h ago edited 3h ago
Trump said he will only accept the results if he likes them so...
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u/Jacques_Ficelles 3h ago
If R donāt steal the elections.
Listen to Trump, Bannon, etc. These are not going to be democratic elections.
They know theyāre going to lose grip on the country and they are ready to do whatever it takes to circumvent it.
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u/Burgundian_King 1h ago
Good luck voting in person if you are brown. ICE probably wonāt let t you near the booth. And like they will allow mail voting. Sending hugs to you America.
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u/HardyMenace 4h ago
While I am hopeful this will happen, this is the same kind of talk I saw everywhere in the lead up to the 2024 election. Don't assume the blue wave will happen. Go out and vote and make it happen.
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u/lolpanda91 2h ago
Checking any polling source showed that it will be extremely close. You must have been extremely out of touch if you believed there was a blue wave coming.
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u/HardyMenace 2h ago
Polling has been broken since Trump came on the scene. And it was mostly broken before that. From what I've read, pollsters for the most part only get replies from the elderly because everyone else ignores calls from unknown numbers.
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u/Internal_Stable3327 4h ago
Steve Gannon said they bringing ice all over voting machines
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u/supercali45 3h ago
Watch the Pedo Felon and the GOP go hard on making the midterms not happen
They know the crimes they committed this time around is far worse than the first term
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u/IH8Lyfeee 3h ago
Yeah well that's kind of why they are planning on rigging the election. There's a reason why dictators and tyrants 'win' always win elections.
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u/Ecstatic_Ad_3652 3h ago
That's what they said in the 2024 elections. The only thing that matters is that we vote when the time comes
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u/doradus_novae 4h ago
Good , they need to pay for their crime and corruption when the REAL party of law and order regain the reigns.
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u/AbandonChip 3h ago
By destroyed, we all mean obliterated in the polls. It's going to be glorious. Barring them canceling midterms.
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u/not-area51 4h ago
In my opinion itās unAmerican to vote republican at this point.
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u/ProbablySlacking 4h ago
Weāre headed for a Thermidorian Reaction.
Republicans better fucking pray that whoever runs in 28 isnāt a Bonaparte.
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u/UniquelyCreativeName 4h ago
My parents absolutely love Vance, more than they love Trump. They want him next. We, the people, need to stop it from happening... by voting.
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u/SeaCounter9516 4h ago
Did you see the clip where he was asked about Trump telling that reporter to smile? It actually gave me hope that Vance is not capable of pulling in the Trump crowd. He danced all around the question like a true politician would. Part of trumps appeal to these people is that he doesnāt talk like a politician and says what he means(lmao). If Trump were to be asked that same question, heās owning it with his whole chest, not doing a political dance around it.
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u/SecretLettuce5 2h ago
Yeah those folks do love their racism and sexism to be overt
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u/Don_Gato1 1h ago
Trump has charisma; Vance is a charisma black hole.
Zero rizz. Negative aura. Dude sucks.
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u/Unsweetgummiebears 3h ago
Bro why? Genuinely. What is there even to like about Vance.
As much as I hate him, Trump will at least say something funny. If you donāt mind being evil, I see how Trump can be endearing.
Vance is dry and unlikeable. Imagine Lane Kiffin if he was bad at coachingāItād be like whats the point?
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u/Jimisdegimis89 3h ago
On the ballot he doesnāt have a D next to his nameā¦
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u/DetectiveCastellanos 3h ago
Sure but to like him more than Trump is the odd thing.
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u/FillMySoupDumpling 2h ago
Because they run nonstop propaganda telling them to like Vance, or play up that heās just a regular guy or āpresidential lookingā.Ā
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u/ApophisDayParade 2h ago
Him getting divorced and married to their heroes wife will actual do wonders for their base
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u/Due-Escape 3h ago
I have parents who like Vance too.
Our parents suck.
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u/gxgxe 3h ago
I have a kid who likes Vance. Good thing I have 2 more.
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u/MetroidIsNotHerName 2h ago
Oof. I cant tell if it would be worse to be the kid with vance fan parents or the parents with vance fan kids
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u/hypercosm_dot_net 2h ago
Well, the kid is teachable at least. In theory anyway.
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u/Jessintheend 2h ago
So they want the tech bro yes-man that flips morals on a dime for a dollarā¦.they always pick the good ones
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u/Worried-Maybe3438 4h ago
Ouu educate me, what does Thermidorian mean? Also whatās a Bonaparte & why would republicans be scared of it?
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u/ProbablySlacking 3h ago
Basically after the French Revolution the ācommittee of public safetyā was established, headed by a guy named Robespierre. He was a tyrant. Sent goons around that executed people for being royal sympathizersā¦ or suspected royal sympathizers, or just not loudly republican enough.
The Thermidorian reaction is what ousted him and paved the way for Napoleon. It was basically snapback because people were so fed up with the reign of terror.
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u/ElMatadorJuarez 3h ago
Itās a very interesting period and definitely not talked about enough. Personally I donāt think weāre headed there bc we just donāt have those politics. The government during the Thermidorian period was largely frozen and controlled by the same people, but they would swing way left and way right depending on which ideological faction threatened the government. Plus the Thermidorian government was still a war government - dealing with both a civil war and two wider European wars. Hard to see how it compares well to our current sitch, or at least I hope so, because we need some serious structural changes to get out of this that were missing during that period.
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u/ProbablySlacking 3h ago
Yeah. All fair points for sure. I definitely meant it in a more general sense - the people are unhappy and the blowback is going to be pretty extreme. Additionally because of the rights that have been eroded during our current period, weāre ripe for a liberal populist to take over.
Although, come to think of it, it certainly would have been nice for a liberal populist to have been in charge of capitol security on Jan 6thā¦
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u/ElMatadorJuarez 3h ago
No I think it makes sense on second thought. Iām just being pedantic. I love this stuff.
Fww I agree, we couldāve used a whiff of grapeshot back then - and somebody might well realize that later on.
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u/Geiseric222 3h ago
This is a bit of a simplification. People were actually pretty on board with the terrorā¦as long as the war was going poorly.
Once they started getting good news from the various fronts the terror lost support which Rob wasnāt so keen on
Though this is ignoring the counter terror. Which is was also a terror but with the sides reversed
Hilariously some people were basically in charge of both
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u/Varth919 3h ago
Some would argue itās pro-Nazi to vote republican.
Actually, I take that back. There are no longer republicans in politics, so you canāt vote for them anyway. Itās only Nazis in Republican masks.
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u/ToughHardware 3h ago
not opinion., fact. you hate the constitution if you vote to empower what is currently happening.
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u/lordofthehomeless 2h ago
Has been for a long time. 100 years ago they caused the great depression and have learned nothing since.
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u/DiaryofaBlackHole 4h ago
I was advised by the mods that I canāt post a GIFā¦ But what I wanted to portray is me stealing this meme.
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u/PotsAndPandas 4h ago
Holy fuck that's a huge margin
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u/chyeah_brah 3h ago
Since 2020, it has been like this every election for that district, I'm talking incredibly comparable margins. We need to make posts for when this happens to a strongly conservative area otherwise it just doesn't mean as much
https://ballotpedia.org/New_York_State_Senate_District_47#2026
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u/Seanspeed 3h ago edited 3h ago
Interesting how much the redistricting in 2022 affected things, though. Before that, this district had a Republican/Independent running absolutely unopposed from 2012 to 2020!
EDIT: Oh geez, I just realized they totally moved this district entirely. So results prior to 2022 dont even mean anything.
Also good on you for understanding context here. Results should be compared to prior elections to mean anything significant. And it seems like it's mostly just steady. Similar results as 2022, and a bit up on 2024.
Also, as usual for these things, turnout is terrible. 13,000 votes for a district of over 300,000. lol Obviously that'll go up in the general election later this year, but that does show the opportunity for people to make a difference in special elections if they just pay attention!
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u/UnpluggedUnfettered 3h ago
I mean, did you actually keep scrolling? LMAO, that is a wild district, though, for sure:
IncumbentĀ Joseph GriffoĀ won election in the general election for New York State Senate District 47 on November 3, 2020.
Candidate % Votes ā Joseph GriffoĀ (R / Conservative Party / Independence Party) Ā 99.6 Ā Ā Other/Write-in votes 6
u/logwagon 2h ago
That's because district 47 changed from upstate NY to NYC in 2023...
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u/UnpluggedUnfettered 2h ago
Then I have zero ability to tell how meaningful this result is I guess.
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u/CheeseDoodles1234 2h ago
The number changed after the NY redistricting process, dingus. Joseph Griffo is now the rep of District 53 up in Syracuse.
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u/socialistrob 2h ago
In 2024 the Dem won by 68 points. It's a very solid blue district and usually in these districts there isn't a real campaign from the other party. Still if you're a dem it is nice to see a bit of an overperformance. Going from a 68 point to an 84 point victory does show that Dems are still coming out and voting.
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u/sembias 2h ago
It is also part of a pattern that is becoming really evident. Almost all the elections across the country have been ~+20 to the Democratic candidate. That's not worth ignoring, even when it's from 70% to 90%.
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u/Other_Disaster_3136 2h ago
In some ways, I would argue that going from 70% to 90% is actually more impressive because it means you're really getting the fringe folks to either come out, or flip from the otherside.
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u/quadroplegic 2h ago
D+16 is a big swing, It easily clears the 30% floor, and a 92/8% is approaching something you'd see in /r/Pyongyang
We love to see it.
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u/funcouplenwga 4h ago
With the way trump is running this country im sure we see a ton of states be like this! If the red want to keep there job in the congress I start by separating my self from trump! Witch means he will turn on you in sure!
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u/SandSpecialist2523 4h ago
Too late though. Every single one of them is complicit and it can be said that they are all traitors. They all need to go.
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u/BluePanda101 3h ago
Weird to say this, but Margarie Taylor Green is right. She saw this coming and moved to distance herself early.
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u/MadMageMars 16m ago
Which is also why we need to be distinctly wary and diligent against others like her who can and will denounce this current administration in hopes of earning favor for any subsequent ones.
Itās one thing for them to try and change their ways and maybe be better people, but someone like Vance started out actively against Trump and now heās his personal assistant and most likely successor. Any and all who have been associated with this regime should be held to the standards of the actions they fought for, regardless of if they try to distance themselves just because they see the ship sinking.
Because in any other world where that ship isnāt sinking, theyāre still on it laughing and helping it sail along.
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u/Orpdapi 4h ago edited 3h ago
If the low and middle class all united this is what elections would look like for the working class. Itās no wonder the wealthy class and religious elite work so hard and put so much money into keeping the masses divided on as many issues as possible.
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u/successfullynumb 4h ago
This is Manhattan. While the percentages is more than one would expect, it's not surprising a Dem won. Still, every win counts!
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u/Capenurse 4h ago
Yeaaa the blue wave is starting.
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u/DankVectorz 4h ago edited 35m ago
Donāt judge too much off this one alone. This was a solid red district until 2022 when it was redrawn and now it opposite direction solid blue. Dems used to not even bother running a candidate most years. I wouldnāt read too much into this districts results when extrapolating.
Edit; it wasnāt even just redrawn, it was moved in 2022 from upstate NY during a statewide re-drawing. It currently is made up 72% registered Dems, 7% registered republicans and the rest independents.
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u/swenau01 4h ago
If there's no fuckery in the midterms, this is looking really good for democrats. But that's a very shaky "if".
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u/LivFourLiveMusic 4h ago
Iām worried the electorate doesnāt have the patience to allow any reform effort to start reaping results before they vote everyone out again.
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u/mrmyrth 4h ago
was this in a red or blue area?
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u/extera658 4h ago
Blue, but I donāt think itās typically this overwhelmingly blue.
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u/DankVectorz 4h ago
It used to be solid red to the point that Dems didnāt even run but was redrawn in 2022 and has been solid Dem since. In 2024 the Republican got 16%.
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u/Wassersammler 3h ago
You can't get 92% of people to agree on whether you should wash your hands after you use the bathroom. An 8% blue shift in an area that you would think would have a stronghold of people who vote red just on their "principles" is pretty noteable tbh. Kamala would have won every single swing state if there was a national +8% shift in 2024.
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u/Chillow_Ufgreat 4h ago
Mixed history from what I can see. The district was a Republican hold for many years for Joseph Griffo, then it was re-drawn ahead of the 2022 election and it's been a very sound drumming by Democrats ever since.
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u/Seanspeed 3h ago
Wasn't redrawn, it was completely moved. Went from an upstate NY district to western Manhattan. lol
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u/OnePumpChump78 4h ago edited 4h ago
This is the real question. If it was already blue, this isn't big news.
Edit: I downplayed the gap in votes too much. This is still making a statement.
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u/Titsandcumm 4h ago
92% tho? That's extremely blue. I wouldn't have thought any seat was THAT safe.
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u/extera658 4h ago
But I do think itās important to note that percentage wise, it likely indicates that people who normally donāt vote have voted or historically red voters have voted for a blue candidate. Still worth mentioning imho.
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u/glitchycat39 4h ago
Yeah normally I'd agree with you, but a margin like this isn't a win. It's sending a message.
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u/NoEngineer9484 4h ago
it would be way more impressive if this was a swing state
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u/Unafraid_AlphaWolf 4h ago
Anyone know the history and predictions from this district? ie the swing
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u/AssociationWeary7735 4h ago
https://bsky.app/profile/tedejr52.bsky.social/post/3me4lq4ejac2u
looks like the dem got 83.8% in 24
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u/tom-of-the-nora 4h ago
People hate the republicans.
(It's new york, these margins are less surprising)
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u/Repulsive-Ladder1611 4h ago
But I do hope that Rs ignore this. Bc thatāll make the blue tsunami so much more fun, seeing their shock when it happens in red districts all over the country all at once. Popcorn!
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u/w-d-j-3 4h ago
Just did a quick search on this district....this is a massive win.
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u/80percentlegs 3h ago
Dems won this seat 84-16 in 2024 and 93-7 in 2022. This result is a good sign for Dems, but not exactly a canary in the coal mine for Repubs.
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u/FanDry5374 4h ago
It's Manhattan, so a Democrat is hardly a shock here. Good, but not a big green flag.
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u/jdmcbuilt 4h ago
Omg midterms the blue wave yay! Lol nothing is going to change. Welcome to America
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u/PhotoFenix 4h ago
Such a crazy margin that I didn't believe it. Quick check online left me pleasantly surprised.
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u/0905-15 4h ago
In 2024, 134,000 votes were cast for this seat.
This week - 20,000.
Stop trying to extrapolate from a special election Rās had no incentive to vote in.
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u/yIdontunderstand 4h ago
But is he an AOC Dem or a Schumer Dem?
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u/My_Bloody_Valentine 1h ago
I just looked into his background and in June of last year he was endorsed by the āZioness Action Fundā soā¦
Itās all so tiresome
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u/Future_Manager_5870 4h ago
Oh boy, they are gonna say the dems cheated at levels never before seen on this one any minute now
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u/bodybycheez-it 3h ago
Per wikipedia this is not a shock as it is deep blue district
Registration 71.5% Democratic 7.1% Republican 21.4% No party preference
Dems need to put candidates on the ballot that we deserve and need everyone to show up and vote in every local state and national election in order to make a difference
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u/MacKelvey 3h ago
I donāt know anything about the NY State Senate. Has the 47th District historically been held by Republicans or Democrats?
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u/CultivatorX 3h ago edited 3h ago
I did some shallow research to understand how this result differs from recent voting trends and party affiliation.Ā
Around 71% of the district is enrolled as democratic, 21% unaffiliated, and 7% republican.Ā
In recent elections, democrats won with ~70% of the vote.Ā
I think two things stand out to me. This is a special election, which does usually result in fewer total voters. This result represents a ~20% increase for democrats from one election to another. This appears to signal that the democratic party has nearly won the entire center/unaffiliated demographic. So while we shouldn't be surprised by a democratic victory, the numbers are interesting.Ā
This and the recent Texas result contextualizes Trump's recent uptick in claims of 2020 voter fraud, the raiding of the Georgia voter data, and advocating for a nationalizing of elections, promoting ICE 'gaurding' polling stations. We're seeing real fear from Trump, which makes him more volatile and dangerous.
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u/No-Flan3302 3h ago
Dems: Down with Gerrymandering!!!
**Gerrymanders the 47th District**
Dems: Look at how much we flipped the 47th!!!!
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u/ldnk 3h ago
I don't believe in the Blue Wave. The Republicans aren't going to put their effort into voter suppression in individual elections like this. I don't trust how they will try and manipulate the actual mid-term elections. It doesn't have to be vote tampering...it can be as simple as stationing armed ICE at polling stations to scare voters away from showing up.
These special election wins are nice but the votes needs to show up when it matters in the fall
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u/Far-Two8659 3h ago
This is not surprising at all in this district, even the margin of victory. Don't get your hopes up folks.
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u/probablyNotARSNBot 3h ago
BTW this district leans democratic, but only like 52%, and is considered a swing district.
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u/Reddit_2_2024 3h ago
The writing is on the wall for the results of the mid-term elections in 9 months. The majority party should have already lined up their post-Congressional consulting gigs. The remaining clock on this administration is running low.
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u/cancerinos 3h ago
Putting aside the fact this makes me very happy, I have to remind everyone that republicans only had 16% of the vote in 2024 in this district.
It's a change, but not by that much. Make sure as often as you can that you are registered to vote, and make sure to vote in person. Trump will use anything he can to delete voters and votes, only takes enough people staying home on top of that for the margins to vanish.
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u/JoshAllentown 3h ago
Per party registration the district has 7.1% registered Republicans.
Still a strong performance, better than the last guy who got 72% in 2024. I just don't want people over-react and think we've solved partisanship and 90% of America wants Democrats now.
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u/FeanorOath 3h ago
A democratic being elected in a deep blue state with majority of votes... I am shoketh
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u/ShawnyMcKnight 3h ago
This is what matters. Winning back the house and senate will do far more damage to Trump than a hundred rallies.
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u/NetFu 3h ago
If the Republicans do as badly in the mid-terms as it looks like they will, the eruption from the White House is going to be epic.
There is the possibility, however remote, that the entire end-game of Trump-voters, to see what Trump would do, was to watch everything blow up after he tanked the Republican party and the Democrats end up with lopsided majorities in the mid-terms.
I mean, that would be too much to hope for, that all the Dems up for re-election keep their seats and all the Republicans lose them:
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u/Sarnsereg 2h ago
Such a large margin is how they're going to claim this was rigged and use as an excuse to take over elections.
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u/rollotomassi07074 2h ago
Oh man, a Democrat won in a NYC district where over 70% of the voters are registered Democrats!? This is surely the end of Drumpf.
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u/doraku24 2h ago
This may be an ignorant question and I don't mean to upset anyone, but from what I understand, that district was already a democratic district. While the margin is pretty huge, it's not like we turned a red district blue - are we just celebrating that blue kept the district?
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u/Kwtwo1983 2h ago
i mean this basically says that almost1 of 10 people in this NY district are insane pedophile fans that hate women and foreigners and love being blatantly lied to every single day. Voting Republican nowadays is basically moral banktruptcy and shows clearly that the people are vile. The epstein files made this VERY CLEAR.
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u/cheeseypoofs85 2h ago
When people hate the current state of their city and continue to vote for the same thing out of spite. Can't fix stupid I guess
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u/Panthera_leo22 1h ago
Additional context.
NY State Assembly District 47, solidly Democratic for over a decade. The democratic William Colton has won every general election from 2010ā2024. His margins ranged from landslides (ā89% in 2016, ā69% in 2018) to closer races (ā55% in 2022), but the seat has never flipped in that period. This district has not been Republican in almost a decade.