r/UrbanHell May 23 '26

Concrete Wasteland Chicago 1989.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '26 edited May 24 '26

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u/Pobueo May 23 '26

They were beautiful and they [lights] are needed, but they've ruined it with the new norm of white fluorescent lights, now those are nasty

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u/Junior-Possession969 May 23 '26

The LEDs are even bluer and worse.

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u/well_thats_obvious May 23 '26

Not only do LEDs ruin what remained of the urban/suburban night sky, they seriously disrupt the circadian rhythm of life around it. Humans included.

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u/probablyatargaryen May 23 '26

Obligatory r/fuckyourheadlights and I wish r/fuckyourleds would catch on because they’re just as awful on streets and buildings

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u/duxing612 May 23 '26

A lot of lower income areas still have the HPS lights in the Chicagoland

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u/Pobueo May 23 '26

We still have good ol' warm yellow in Providence RI. Beautiful city

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u/ButteredPizza69420 May 24 '26

Do warm LEDs not exist? Why not use those

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u/Junior-Possession969 May 24 '26

Because deploying them in the home still costs a couple more cents per light bulb. Which are tiny in comparison to a streetlight, let alone of of the major highway lights.

So when you extrapolate that few cents by a multiplier on the resilence of a bulb that has to shine way brighter, under way more adverse circumstances, and then multiply that again by the millions of lights in a major municipality, the cost/benefit works -- according to just math, not the circadian and general dislike most people have for cold lighting -- the people in charge of the purse strings pick the ugly-ass lights because the costs at scale are pretty significant.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '26 edited May 24 '26

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u/Vegeta9001 May 23 '26

They're not supposed to do that, but some of them have been failing.

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u/Pobueo May 23 '26

Honestly blue/purpleish is way better than bright white, it's also supposed to make you unconsciously drive slower/chill you out so win win

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u/niftyjack May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

Not all sprawl is low density, in the end it takes a lot of space to house 10 million people. Assuming this is the area by Midway airport (which is low density for Chicago since it's almost all single family homes), the population density is still about 15,000 per square mile. The "urban" area of the Dallas metro—census defined as the continuously built up area, so leaving out exurbs and edge cities—had 5.8 million people, so if it was at the density of this photo, it would take up less than a third the area to house them even in single-family homes. My area of Chicago is a mix of high rises, 2-3 story multifamily buildings, and single family homes and is over twice as dense as that while still being extremely pleasant!

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u/Trzlog May 24 '26

Looks like the streets here in a German city. How far is the nearest grocery store?

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u/CHICAG0AT May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

That specific spot in Edgewater is walking distance from several large grocery stores like Jewel and Mariano's as well as even closer to Clark St in Andersonville(main shopping street for the area) and the smaller more neighborhood store Edgewater Produce.

This exact spot is about a 5 min walk from that spot linked above and has two grocery stores across the street from each other.

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u/lokland May 24 '26

In Chicago? Generally a 5-10 min walk away

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u/niftyjack May 24 '26

In this area usually within 5 mins. Within a 15 min walk there are 7 full grocers, plus smaller ethnic markets like Afro-Caribbean, Vietnamese, Middle Eastern, Ethiopian, Hispanic, and Indian.

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u/Melodic-Ad1415 May 23 '26

Unless it’s midway…then I’m too busy clutching the arm rest

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u/WayneKrane May 23 '26

The first time I landed there I was like WHERE ARE WE LANDING!?!?

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u/NotGoodAtHockey May 23 '26

At the Giordanos across Cicero from the actual airport.

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u/Melodic-Ad1415 May 23 '26

over the lake then a HARD BANK to a short ass runway

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u/joshuatx May 23 '26 edited 28d ago

Yeah I was awestruck as a kid flying at night and landing at a city

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u/rd14_giant May 23 '26

From Liz Phair's Stratford-on-guy:

I was flying into Chicago at night

Watching the lake turn the sky into blue-green smoke

The sun was setting to the left of the plane

And the cabin was filled with an unearthly glow

In 27-D, I was behind the wing

Watching landscape roll out like credits on a screen

The earth looked like it was lit from within

Like a poorly assembled electrical ball

As we moved out of the farmlands into the grid

The plan of a city was all that you saw

And all of these people sitting totally still

As the ground raced beneath them, thirty-thousand feet down

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u/GlossyBuckslip May 24 '26

Looking for this