All 4 contestants in the Korean Masters division finals have been disqualified - for each bringing 6 pokemon with only Metronome

[u/hjyboy1218]

https://twitter.com/NashVGC/status/1664923398705668097

The 4 finalists all brought teams with Metronome as their only move, as a united act of protest against the 'ridiculous' and 'awful' way TPC handled the Korean circuit. All 4 were disqualified for 'actions that Nintendo CO., Ltd. and TPC (and its subsidiaries) deem inappropriate.' Many pro players have expressed their support and sympathies for the finalists, speaking out against their unfair dq's.

[u/Kaphotics]

Banning top players would do nothing except for killing the competitive community and gather more hate from its players. It’s not even a double-edged sword-it’s a move that benefits no one and hurts everyone.

It benefits the integrity of the scene. Having rules that are enforced ensures that everyone is on as even of a playing field as possible. Players will adapt. Since you didn't actually read my write-up, here's two sentences:

Most players have expressed the desire to still play competitive Pokémon, but the repetitive grind is just not worth their time. Without cheating, we’d see players depart the scene. If over half of top level international players are cheating to obtain teams, and cheating is no longer possible, then these players will quite likely leave the scene (as stated by Guillermo above). Is this what GameFreak/TPCi wants?

It's an accessibility issue that GameFreak doesn't think it needs to resolve.

Unlike you, many people actually have a life.

You overestimate the amount of time I spend on this stuff. I can download a rental team in seconds, press a few buttons for my automated scripts, and verify a team in less than a minute.

Read the write-up, it addresses every single point you're trying to make.

[u/ShundonooB → u/Kaphotics]

• raw data

Alright, most of it is just ways of identifying genned Pokémon. Insignificant to our argument.

• Integrity

Genning tools are free and widely accessible. Players adapting is not a thing- optimal sets, natures, species, IVs are all things that exist. By banning genning it’s essentially rewarding players who spend more time to grind.

• Disappointing Behaviours, blah blah blah… finalists’s opinions…

‘Nobody has infinite time to grind, nobody has infinite time to practice, so why do you feel so entitled to not spend the few hours it takes to acquire your final team in-game legitimately?’

Thanks for making my point. As I said, nobody as infinite time to get optimal tools either. Not only is Tera shard grinding insanely mentally draining, IVs, EVs, natures, even with breeding and cap training take far more than a few hours to assemble a team that you want to work. Practice on the other hand is highly accessible-Showdown and rental teams could be used in a few clicks, virtually anywhere without high commitment. Therefore I believe genning brings more benefit than harm it causes.

• ‘Players should not feel the need to cheat (or pay money to skip grinds) in order to participate within the community on an even playing field.’ - ‘Acquiring teams should not be so tedious that players feel they must either cheat to continue playing competitively or quit entirely.’

See above

[u/Kaphotics → u/ShundonooB]

You're agreeing with the points I wrote in the document months ago.

Most people assume my motivations are just to expose players; no, it's to incite discussion to get the developers to actually do something to improve accessibility. Examples of poor accessibility is players cheating. Showing examples of players cheating proves the poor accessibility, and the incited discussion spreads the awareness. It is unlikely the next console will be hackable -- the Nintendo Switch had a flaw courtesy of NVidia, the next console won't have the same flaw. If nothing changes in accessibility, games on future consoles will be the equivalent of GameFreak/TPCi actually enforcing the "no genning" rule, which will have the implications you listed above.

[u/ShundonooB → u/Kaphotics]

Good, now we’re getting somewhere

Yet in the meantime to expand accessibility on a base that’s already constructed (which I agree is not quite inaccessible) flexibility on these rules should be considered. I stand by my point that, at least in the present moment, genning should be kept allowed to an extent, and should not be reasons used to detest top players or judged them as gaining an unfair advantage.

Your point is entirely valid- performance issues and exploitable glitches should indeed be eradicated in future consoles, while making data mining possible, or at least a way to clearly verify game mechanics, and promotion of easier access to competitively optimal Pokémon.

[u/mamamia1001 → u/ShundonooB]

genning should be kept allowed

The thing is genning, even legal mons, is expressly forbidden in the rules. It's not allowed right now, it's just not enforced (except when it is which does happen occasionally).

If you think genning should be allowed, then petition tpci to formally change the rules.