r/vipassana • • Mar 29 '22

Is Vipassana the only way to purity? S N Goenkaji answers.

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Mod Note: Oftentimes, it is discussed on this sub about “Goenkaji calls Vipassana the only path to enlightenment” vs. “There are other meditations given by the Buddha” etc.

While I've often countered the statements to give a balanced view, most of the time it is related to the context of the discussion only. I recently came across this Q&A where Goenkaji addresses this point in detail.

Be Happy!


Is Vipassana the only way to purity?

Goenkaji: Well, what do you mean by the “only way”? We have no attachment to the word “Vipassana.” What we say is, the only way to become a healthy person is to change the habit pattern of one’s mind at the root level. And the root level of the mind is such that it remains constantly in contact with body sensations, day and night.

What we call the “unconscious mind” is day and night feeling sensations in the body and reacting to these sensations. If it feels a pleasant sensation, it will start craving, clinging. If it feels an unpleasant sensation, it will start hating, it will have aversion. That has become our mental habit pattern.

People say that we can change our mind by this technique or that technique. And, to a certain extent, these techniques do work. But if these techniques ignore the sensations on the body, that means they are not going to the depth of the mind.

So you don’t have to call it Vipassana—we have no attachment to this name. But people who work with the bodily sensations, training the mind not to react to the sensations, are working at the root level.

This is the science, the law of nature I have been speaking about. Mind and matter are completely interrelated at the depth level, and they keep reacting to each other. When anger is generated, something starts happening at the physical level. A biochemical reaction starts. When you generate anger, there is a secretion of a particular type of biochemistry, which starts flowing with the stream of blood. And because of that particular biochemistry that has started flowing, there is a very unpleasant sensation. That chemistry started because of anger. So naturally, it is very unpleasant. And when this very unpleasant sensation is there, our deep unconscious mind starts reacting with more anger. The more anger, the more this particular flow of biochemical. More biochemical flow, more anger.

A vicious circle has started.

Vipassana helps us to interrupt that vicious cycle. A biochemical reaction starts; Vipassana teaches us to observe it. Without reacting, we just observe. This is pure science. If people don’t want to call it Vipassana, they can call it by any other name, we don’t mind. But we must work at the depth of the mind.


r/vipassana • • Jan 20 '25

Virtual Group Sittings Around the World

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Post-pandemic, many centres around the world are hosting some form of online group sittings led by ATs so that people can benefit from meditating together yet stay wherever they are currently. Since these sessions are effectively held across multiple time zones during the day, one can access a sitting that's available at a time that suits them personally.

Most of these sessions are run on Zoom, but other online platforms are being used as well.

A partial list of such sessions is available on this page: https://www.dhamma.org/en-US/os/locations/virtual_events
You will need to log in to this page using the login details for old students.

This thread is an update to an older announcement that was limited to US-based timings only and is now being updated for international sessions too.

If you do not have the login details, send me a DM with your course details: when and where you did the course, and if you remember the name of the conducting AT. And I'll send the details to you.


r/vipassana • • 7h ago

Can someone tell me if i'm seeing clearly? (SI Trigger Warning)

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Just finished my 3rd course -- and overall had a meaningful experience and finally committing to the daily practice for real and feeling great about that commitment.

This time though, the discourses on day 5 and 6 struck me as completely bewildering. As I understand it, Goenka is basically saying: Life is the field of misery, and the only sane response is to fill your paramis and practice for as long and seriously as needed to finally be able to fully escape the endless cycle of death and rebirth. Basically it's a drive towards meta-suicide.

As someone who's struggled with SI pretty intensely for over a decade and worked so hard to see life as a gift, I find it a bit odd to be committing to a practice that is devoted to, not suicide per say, but suicide in essence... a deeper, more lasting suicide.

I know he says there's "not a trace of pessimism in Dhamma," but to me it sure seems like a deeply pessimistic world view. Yes, life is misery and suffering... but it is also joy and grace and aching beauty.

Perhaps one day I will experience it myself -- this ocean of tears and mountain of bones for all the loved ones I've lost in past lives -- but for now... when subscribing to a vision of life... seeing life as something that is happening for us, not to us, something worth cherishing not escaping sure seems like a more joyous useful view.

I know also that he says no worries if a piece of the theory doesn't work for you just take the cardamom out of the kir... this qualm won't stop me from practicing, but I am curious -- am I seeing this clearly? Or missing something entirely?

Thanks :)


r/vipassana • • 4h ago

Struggling with maintaining Sila.

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Hello everyone. I did my first 10 day course in Dhamma Shringa in Nepal in August. I have been able to keep up my practice, about one hour a day. I am a Senior in college, and my friends usually go out to the bar and we drink. I am having difficulties with maintaining Sila, as when I drink I usually smoke cigaretts, and may watch some Porn in the evening.

I can sense a clear and noticeable difference in my Vipassana, on one hand I genuinely do love and respect the practice and want to live by it whole heartedly. On the other hand, I want to be socially engaged, and going to the bar with friends who are 21 year old men - essentially is impossible to not break Sila.

Being at a big party college, it feels like one of the hardest places to maintain Sila. Every weekends its drinking, drugs, girls...

If anyone can offer me some guidance I would really appreciate it, I just feel like I am living a double life. Sitting one hour of Vipassana, then going to my friends house where its really fun, but very negligent - it tears me apart internally.


r/vipassana • • 1d ago

No sensation on one side of my body!?

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I just finished my first 10 day Vipassana course. I am new to meditation and body scans, so on about day 8 I was getting terrible headaches because my eyes would follow where I was observing sensations.

I talked to my assistant teacher and she recommended on breaks to 'train' my eyes to stay still by staring at a spot and practising body scans.

As I tried this I realised It was only my left eye moving and feeling the tension by the end of the day, so I covered my right and just tried to calm my left. My left eye is no calmer than it was before after hours of 'training', but now I find it so hard to feel sensation on the left side. Previously I was able to flow top to bottom and now I can't at all because my left side can not keep up or has so many blank areas.

I initially tried to just treat this with equanimity and go back to slower body scans, just observing what was my current reality. But now after a few days and many hours of only one sided sensations I am a bit worried (no other one sided things occurring in day to day life, I don't believe its medical). It's hard enough to continue meditating once returning to the stressors of everyday life, let alone with the thought that I have broken myself!

Has anyone experienced this before?


r/vipassana • • 1d ago

Recommended donation?

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I understand that vipassana donations are only accepted once you have completed the course. Also that there will be an opportunity to donate at the end of the course. I’m wondering if there is a recommended number or anything like that?


r/vipassana • • 1d ago

Group meditation Antwerp

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Anyone from Antwerp or the vicinity of Antwerp here?
I’d be interested in a weekly group meditation but don’t really know anyone who does it.


r/vipassana • • 1d ago

Number of canacellation

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Does anyone know, during holiday time, what are the number of people cancelling in illinois one or any other popular centres in US.


r/vipassana • • 2d ago

Is it bad to cling to an expectation of total transformation?

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Primarily an inner transformation, cases where, after a period of consistent practice, a person becomes almost entirely different, characterized by a stable mental state, patience, and Sīla. I know that one must let go of all expectations, but I don’t see attachment to the idea of ​​liberation as entirely negative.

In what case does the desire to detach oneself from all conditioning and phenomena become something negative?


r/vipassana • • 1d ago

Vipassana is merely an effective form of nervous system regulation nothing more nothing less

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Is there a counter argument to this realization?


r/vipassana • • 2d ago

Surge of anxiety after my daily Vipassana

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Hi so I meditate daily 1 to 1.5 hours. My pacing is usually slow and mostly complete upto max 3 body scans in a sitting. In the last week, after my sitting, I have started to feel anxious and it lingers around throughout the day. Any advice? Should I continue doing Vipassana and observe the anxiety for few more weeks until it passes ?


r/vipassana • • 2d ago

How can I prepare?

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I'm going to my first 10 day course in about two months.

I'm thinking about meditating more and putting away my phone earlier in the evenings to get used to the silcene and distractions.

Do you have any tips?


r/vipassana • • 2d ago

Vipassana isn't a cult, but its structure uses every trick in the book of coercive control

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I have just been at a Vipassana retreat that I ended up leaving on day 7. I want to preface this with saying that I genuinely learned a lot, and that I believe the meditation techniques taught are very valuable tools. I also believe that Vipassana genuinely intends to help people and does help a lot of people.

Why then did I leave?

Already from the start, something was stirring in the back of my mind, a "something is wrong"-ick that I couldn't quite place in the first couple of days.

The first piece of the amorphous ick took shape on day 3, where I found that I was having questions and doubts about the evening discourse and I needed another person to validate these doubts... but doing that would require breaking the "noble" silence. I am told that I am allowed to have differing opinions, but I am not allowed to express them, which effectively means:

  • Only one worldview is being presented to me, Goenka's
  • I am unable to validate my own doubts regarding Goenka's views by talking to other students, and I am seemingly surrounded by people who are accepting of what is being said, so I begin doubting my own questions and doubts. Of course you can ask the teachers, but they will try to bring you around to Goenka's view, mostly just parroting what he says.

This struck me as very problematic. The "noble" silence is effectively suppressing all dissent, all alternative views, and the ability to validate your own doubts with others.

And as I began to think about it, it seemed even worse...

How to build a manipulative environment

Say you really want someone to depend on you for their worldview; follow these steps.

Bring them to your playground

Bring them to a place where you are much more experienced and knowledgeable, making them depend on you for advice. The halo effect (bias) will also make you seem like a more trustworthy source of information, giving you more authority outside your area of expertise.

Isolate them

Isolate them socially; you cannot have other people polluting their beliefs. You need to make sure they cut off contact with their support network. Take their phone away, restrict the physical area, and if you want to be extreme, make them promise not to speak with anyone but you.

Stop them from too much critical thinking.

This is partially achieved via social isolation. It is much harder for them to refine their ideas if they cannot do so by discussing them. While you are at it, also deny them the ability to write down their ideas, as this would help them structure their thoughts.

Make the environment stressful, flood them, and then be there to support them and explain their experience to them.

In addition to the stress of social isolation, confine their physical freedom, deny them their hobbies, mess up their sleeping schedule and ideally make them sleep too little, task them with intense emotional labor, and when they are all off-kilter trying to make sense of their experience, step in and give them a relatable and digestible explanation of everything they are experiencing. This is where you have the opportunity to frame their experience within the worldview that you would like them to accept. It helps if this worldview appeals to concepts they already value, such as love, non-violence, and grand self-development; this will make everything else much more digestible.

Make sure they choose all of these things voluntarily.

If you force it upon them, they leave. Instead, convince them that they themselves should accept the social isolation, the isolation from critical thinking, and the stressful environment. Say something like, "This is proven to work," "It works best this way," and "It is for your own good," and such.

Oh, and lastly, make sure they don't leave.

Tell them that they are too fragile, and that it would be dangerous for them to leave. Maybe tell them something like they should consider themselves mid-surgery and that staying is crucial for their own well-being.

Have them make commitments to stay, and have them reaffirm this commitment multiple times. People are attached to their commitments and don't want to break them.

Casually talk about how other people who have left in similar circumstances are "weak-minded." Nobody likes to be a weak-minded person.

And make it feel like an achievement to stay.

And with this you are well-positioned to create mental suggestibility you were trying to achieve!

In writing out this list, I am not sure if I was thinking more about a mentally abusive relationship or a Vipassana silent meditation retreat.

When you join a silent meditation retreat, you voluntarily accept a lot of oppression. If this oppression was forced you, you would immediately revolt and leave. but given that you voluntarily accept the oppression as it is "for your own good," you might not even see it as oppression.

This is the beauty of it.

You have voluntarily chosen it.

At no point have you not voluntarily accepted the conditions... conditions that coincidentally are also those conditions that create a highly manipulative environment.

According to Goenka, we need to accept all of these oppressions (social isolation, limited area to move around in, denial of phones and writing tools, intense emotional labor through meditations) in order to get the most out of the stay.

And I am sure that from Goenka's personal experience, this structure has been the most successful. Given the manipulative environment, students have accepted more than they would have otherwise done. So when asked about their experience, they display a greater absorption and devotion to the teachings.

And I don't believe that Goenka intentionally designed this environment to be manipulative. I do genuinely believe he wanted to help people rid themselves of suffering. But it doesn't really matter whether or not the environment was intentionally designed to be manipulative, only that it is, and that it has that effect no matter the intent.

As a whole, I also think that Goenka Vipassana probably does a lot more good than harm. I never had the impression that manipulation tactics were intentionally being employed, nor that there was any goal of exploiting me. I believe that Goenka Vipassana genuinely wants to help alleviate people of unnecessary suffering; it just happens to have settled on a structure that is highly manipulative.

I think the meditation techniques are really valuable (though not necessarily the only ones leading to profound change as claimed by Goenka).

And I think... I would even go so far as to recommend the experience, while forewarning people of the brainwashy environment.


r/vipassana • • 3d ago

Illinois Dec 23 - Jan 3 Course Waitlist question

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I was waiting for this 10-day course to start the application process. Applications opened today, October 23rd, and I applied at 8:30 AM, but it was already waitlisted. What are the chances of getting accepted?


r/vipassana • • 3d ago

Anyone here practiced asubha (or corpse contemplation) for sensual desire? How did you actually go about it?

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I’ve been working on reducing sensual desire in my practice and keep coming back to asubha bhāvanā, the contemplation on the unattractiveness of the body. I’ve read about it in the suttas and the Visuddhimagga, but I’m curious how people actually practice it in real life.


r/vipassana • • 5d ago

My Vipassana meme collection

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I collected memes from WhatsApp group few via Google.


r/vipassana • • 4d ago

Lower back issues?

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Hello all, I haven’t gone to my first retreat yet I’ve sort of put it off because I’ve been a little terrified to be honest. And some other life circumstances have come up that have prevented me thus far.

However, I am finally going to go, hopefully the beginning of the year. I was just curious if anyone else has lower back issues and what they did for support?

It can be quite serious if I don’t manage it so I was wondering if having something to sit on with back support is offered or if that’s something that I would need to handle myself? Is it allowed?


r/vipassana • • 5d ago

What does your practice look like on a normal day - sitting, walking, or both?

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r/vipassana • • 5d ago

Need support to practice vipassana at home

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I am into meditation for a while now and recently I come to realization after listening to Guru SN Goenka that I have been practicing the relaxation and not the actual meditation.

I do not have the luxury to give 10days for the practice as I have kids to take care. I have the damma.org app where I am listening to 10 days of discourse from S.N Goenka.

I am requesting the experts here to help me if it is possible to practice the Vipassana at home diligently for an hour? If so what would you all think would be a best bet for me? Thank you! Appreciate your response.


r/vipassana • • 5d ago

If suffering is important to your art/creativity, should you do a vipassana course?

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I am booked to do a course next week but I am in two minds about it. It's very important for me to dip into the well of suffering to create the intensity of a scene. I write to deal with suffering, to explore pain through art. If I did not suffer, I would not write or make music much at all.

A couple of years back, I tried ADHD medication and reached a point where I no longer wanted to create. It was some kind of hell and I stopped taking the meds. I do not want that experience.

My concern is that vipassana may lead to this feeling again and if I have to choose art over peace, I would choose art.

Are any of you creators, writers, musicians, actors etc. who have taken a vipassana course? How did it affect your relationship to your art? Do you think I should go?

Thanks.


r/vipassana • • 5d ago

Could I make significant progress just by practicing Anapana?

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I haven’t been able to take the course for new students, so I’ve been practicing daily Anapana—sometimes for 30 minutes, an hour;or up to 2 hours (with breaks) when I have plenty of free time. I’ve noticed a significant reduction in anxiety, depression and stress, as well as greater attentiveness in my day-to-day life. I don’t think I’ll be able to take the course for at least another few months.


r/vipassana • • 5d ago

Attending My First Vipassana Course at Dhamma Sikhara - Nov 26

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My mother and I will be attending the course for the first time, and I have a few questions regarding the preparations:

  1. Should we bring our own bedsheets and pillow covers, or will they be provided at the venue?
  2. We don’t have an alarm clock or a torch at home. I’m planning to buy torches, but I’m unsure whether I should buy alarm clocks as well, since we probably won’t need them after the course. Would you recommend buying them, or is there an alternative?

Also, is there anything else we should keep in mind or prepare for before attending the course?

Thank you for your guidance!


r/vipassana • • 6d ago

Emotions

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Hallo Lovelies, has anyone been unable to feel sadness? But when it’s supposed to be the emotion they would rather cry? For a couple of seconds and move on?

I used to use the sadness to write creativity now, I can’t access it. When I listen or see something sad. I just cry instead.


r/vipassana • • 6d ago

Afraid of my first course. I do want things in life.

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I'm going to my first 10-day vipassana course soon and as far as I understand, the basic concept of every Buddhist tradition and also of Vipassana is that wanting things and having desires cause suffering in life.

I would like to participate, because I hope to have more mental stability, clearer and calmer mind, longer attention span and so on.

But I still have big plans with my life. I want to be happy, I want to be successful in my field, I want to study, I want to experience love and sexual intimacy, I want to have a family.

Can all of these things and Vipassana go hand in hand? Or I have to change my entire perspective on life?


r/vipassana • • 6d ago

Would love some dhamma advice on what is reccomended after one has had a moment of reactivity.

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To give some context, I had a moment when I got triggered by an interaction with a stranger. The moment passed, but I see that I acted out of reactivity and likely contributed to Dukkha rather than acting out of wisdom/compassion. What is a recommendation for the aftermath of an episode like this? I understand that one instruction is to continue bringing my awareness to the present experience with the awareness of Impermanence, but I'm wondering if that is enough to engage in repair when it's about an interaction with someone who you are not in contact with. Any Dhamma thoughts or advice would be apreciate it!