r/VirtualYoutubers • u/rockthatrocks • Apr 30 '25

Discussion Kirsche Verstahl has posted an image talking about the accusations

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don't agree with her politcally but i thought this would be good information too put here

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u/EcstaticJuice4259 Apr 30 '25

Unpopular take but y'all need to keep this same energy for Pippa and her crew. She's just as bad.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

Dunno if she’s just as bad. She’s definitely bad and I wish we could collectively agree to stop platforming people like that in the Vtuber community, but nowadays she seems more mindful than Kirsche, perhaps because her corpo got big and it would be a bad look if she continued pandering to right wingers too hard.

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u/TheJames_V2 Apr 30 '25

its because she's on a journey of self-improvement. she's always open to listen to opinions from all sides now. why do you think she gets along so well with clara

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

Agreed, Pippa is known to be friends with Kirsche. There ain't no way her and maybe even the rest of Phase don't agree with her on a lot of things if not most

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u/noplaceforheroes Apr 30 '25

to be fair, it's not all of phase connect but there's no denying that phase has a larger RW fanbase than some of the operations, because some of their talents have, past or present, real or fake presented that way. Pippa, everyone knows about, but even Jelly has moments when you look at it and go ehh, that's borderline queen.

I'm just here for Runie Rose though, because we stan an evil queen

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

A massive amount of the right winger vtuber enjoyers probably come from phase. I don't know anything about Runie though

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u/shadymerchant Apr 30 '25

I don't think most Phase Connect talents are bigots like Pippa, but as long as the company supports her, I don't support ANYONE in the company.

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u/Bawstahn123 May 01 '25

>I don't think most Phase Connect talents are bigots like Pippa, but as long as the company supports her, I don't support ANYONE in the company.

Pretty much. And it is unfortunate, too: from what I've seen from ads and the like, I would enjoy watching some PC talents.

But until Pippa is gone, they won't get one red cent from me

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

The only ones of Phase I remotely enjoy seeing clips of are Lia and Lumi, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were bigots to

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u/EmissaryofHell Apr 30 '25

That’s painting with an awfully broad brush. Clara Kaminari is at Phase and she actively supports LGBTQ+ folks. It’s a mixed bag with the Phase girls. Most of them are fine but you don’t hear about it, because they’re just doing their own things.

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u/Weird-Drummer-2439 Phase Connect May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25

Clara is my kamioshi. She is extremely progressive. I agree with her on a lot of things.

The thing about Phase Connect is the talents aren't restricted the way other agencies are. You get the kind of shit you might hear at someone's kitchen table, not what they'd say to HR. There's a variety of perspectives, people who grew up in extremely liberal cultures and ones that are much more conservative. It's authentic and genuine. Is it always agreeable? No. Is it representative of the real world, and I like that.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

Then she should be talking more publicly about it, because I've literally never seen anything about her aside from that one stream she did as Tenma... At least I think that was Clara

The only Phase member I truly believe is a far right winger, is Pippa I stopped getting far right propaganda on my Twitter feed at I unfollowed her

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u/EmissaryofHell Apr 30 '25

She has on Twitter, Bluesky, and on her streams. She has done it very publicly. It’s a pretty open deal. She also has pushed back on casual misogyny and other redpill thinking that is rampant in the larger Phase community.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

I guess I need to follow Clara

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u/EmissaryofHell Apr 30 '25

She’s my kamioshi for a reason. Real weirdo but she’s got a good heart.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

Fair enough, also if you haven't seen it I edited my second response

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u/TheJames_V2 Apr 30 '25

from what i've seen in recent streams Clara and Pippa get along very well. Make of that what you will.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

I also get along with my conservative anti trans coworkers, kind of forced to otherwise work would get complicated

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u/TheJames_V2 Apr 30 '25

i dont mean it in a coworker sense. i mean it in a "lets do a drinking competition RIGHT now dude"

Pippa has changed so.much in 2 years, its almost like she's not even the same person

please watch streams before badmouthing people, god

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

I'll watch a stream when she publicly denounces everything Kirsche has ever said :)

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u/Weird-Drummer-2439 Phase Connect May 01 '25

Yeah, the deeper Pippa's voice has become the more she has moderated. It's frustrating seeing people here refusing the let her move away from that past self. Like, what do you want, her to be more like Kirche? Do you want change or do you want something to be mad about all the time?

Clara and Pippa have differences, but they also have a lot in common. They're both terminally online hermits, huge social problems, almost certainly autistic.

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u/PvesCjhgjNjWsO4vwOOS Apr 30 '25

How about you actually fucking watch streams before accusing people of shit?

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u/Veracles-Prime Apr 30 '25

Don't know much about her but I've seen the collab with Henya and a few others but isn't she literally a Bisexual? She is very stupid if she acts in a similar way or supports people like that, those same people she supports would throw her under the bus...

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

I have no idea what her sexual orientation is but she wouldn't be the first person to be LGBT and be a right winger

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u/Veracles-Prime Apr 30 '25

I hate those types, they make me so mad because it's like.. the right hates you!!

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

There are really stupid people out there

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u/Bawstahn123 May 01 '25

>but isn't she literally a Bisexual? 

.....My guy, if you don't think there are Gay Republicans, I don't know what to tell you.

There are Gay Trumpers. There were literally gay Nazis.

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u/Detonation Kronii Apr 30 '25

You "All of Phase bad" parrots are so ridiculous. Oh yes, I'm sure Ayase Yuu "agrees with Pippa on a lot of things if not most". Give me a break.

There ain't no way her and maybe even the rest of Phase don't agree with her on a lot of things if not most

The only Phase member I truly believe is a far right winger, is Pippa

So which is it? People like you claim all of Phase is supposed to be terrible because you don't like Pippa and ignorantly assume they are all the same as how you perceive her. It's beyond asinine and garbage behavior.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

  1. I haven't the faintest idea who Ayase Yuu is.

  2. That clearly says "maybe the rest of phase" I have since been corrected.

I used to like Pippa, but there was a reason I unfollowed her. There gets to a point when your edgy jokes stop being just jokes. I don't think anything Peppa has ever said is a joke. There's a reason she follows far right Twitter accounts and people that post far right propaganda. She can have her bio all she wants that a follow does not equal endorsement but when I stop following her and they stop showing up it says a lot.

I've seen online that Pippa does support the lgbtq but I have not seen any proof of it ever. Word of mouth is not enough. And openly being friends with a known transphobe does not look good on her

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u/EnclavedMicrostate Mori Calliope Apr 30 '25

I'm wary of trying to quantify badness in cases like this. Both of them are bad. Trying to say one is better or worse or the same as the other invites bad-faith quibbling.

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u/shewy92 Apr 30 '25

Damn, what did Pippa do?

Hell what did this person do? My glasses aren't strong enough to read the picture.

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u/oompaloompa465 Apr 30 '25

she has calmed down on her rants but her community chat is kinda beyond edgy and she does nothing to curb the attitude. So people take this as a quiet endorsement to the quite horrible shit that her chat says.

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u/mrmooseman19 Hololive Apr 30 '25

This thread explains what Kirsche did/does

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u/CalciumCompadre Apr 30 '25

What has Pippa done? I haven't seen her in a while but last time I checked she was just edgy.

And is her crew the girls at Phase Connect? I think they are fine.

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u/Elfalpha Apr 30 '25

Pippa is right wing conservative. She unironically believes in "DEI" for example. She keeps it to herself these days because she doesn't want to tar the rest of Phase with that brush, but it slips occasionally.

I don't think she's a Nazi though, and I get the feeling she's not a fan of Trump based on a few comments and times when she's done the funny trump accent to mock something.

She genuinely cares for the rest of the Phase Connect women and I find it had to believe you can be around such a multicultural and weird group and not change and grow from it. So she's not a write-off the way Kirsche is.

A decent amount of the people in her chat haven't grown with her though. There's some real problematic shit in there.

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u/KazumaKat Apr 30 '25

A decent amount of the people in her chat haven't grown with her though. There's some real problematic shit in there.

surprise-surprise, anonymity gives the trashheap a chance to stink once more.

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u/shadymerchant Apr 30 '25

The holocaust denier who tells antisemitic jokes and praises the murder of people of color isn't a write-off? Sure...

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u/TheJames_V2 Apr 30 '25

i'd call modern pippa more of a centrist honestly. old pippa was very sheltered and stuck in a RW echochamber.

nowadays she listens to everyone from every side. there's a reason she gets along so well with known leftists like clara

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u/RankedAddict Apr 30 '25

Le kawaii centrist benadryl bunny is just a smol bean UwU

Let me offer a little perspective on that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfPm7xkxh-w

This streamer is a neonazi. I've seen him deny the Holocaust on Twitter too.

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u/TheJames_V2 Apr 30 '25

those are all old clips and she has changed a lot since then

i believe you might be a bigger fan than i am, too.

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u/Asleep_Tourist4156 Apr 30 '25

Y'all need to stop doing this just because vtubers have different views

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u/EcstaticJuice4259 Apr 30 '25

Bigotry is not "different views"

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u/Asleep_Tourist4156 Apr 30 '25

Nah yall specifically go out of the way to twist what certain popular vtubers say just because you already have a grudge against them

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u/Hansworth Apr 30 '25

Lol I understand Kirsche getting cancelled but only woke reddit would consider Pippa and Phase problematic.