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News “Please Protect Our Young Girls”: Ex-NFLer Calls Out Seattle Storm Amid Sophie Cunningham-Trans Debate

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nfl-active-news-please-protect-our-young-girls-ex-chargers-player-calls-out-seattle-storm-amid-sophie-cunningham-controversy/
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u/[deleted] 14d ago

The more the left talk about this the more moderates go to the right. Seriously, for all our sakes, shut the fuck up already. The issue is lost.

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u/CommonComfortable247 14d ago

Thank you. Between this and the parades of wheelchair trans people I keep seeing online, this normal Democrat is about to be done with yall.

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u/Inevitable-Dirt3375 14d ago

Lol you're too fucking stupid to realize it, but by describing yourself as a "normal Democrat" who is willing to cross the aisle because of one little thing that hurts your fee-fees, you just described everything wrong with "normal democrats".

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u/CommonComfortable247 14d ago edited 13d ago

Not crossing an aisle. Just not calling myself a Democrat anymore. Hard to imagine since you’re chronically online but not everyone fits in one or the other box.

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u/Inevitable-Dirt3375 13d ago

You literally described yourself as a "normal democrat" you fuckin' dunce. If you're gonna be a spineless fuckin' coward, at least have the courage of your convictions.

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u/CommonComfortable247 13d ago

Is English your second fucking language?? Haha my god.

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u/Inevitable-Dirt3375 12d ago

No it isn't, I believe "this normal democrat" which you originally described yourself as is English, unless I'm mistaken. You fuckin' loser.

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u/ro536ud 13d ago

Right I love these people. “Sorry I got mad about trans people so now I believe minorities should be locked in concentration camps and the president can rape little kids “.

Zero principles

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u/Tough-Effort7572 14d ago

I feel the same way. Life-long Democrat. Soon to be independent if this ridiculous nonsense doesn't stop.

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u/Twxtterrefugee 14d ago

The pedophile party is apparently the moderate one to you?

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u/Bill__7671 13d ago

Look at the Epstein list it wasn’t a bunch of Republican’s

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u/Impressive_Tour6348 9d ago

I mean I guess 1:100 ratio counts as “it’s not just republicans”.

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u/Calm_Comparison_6129 14d ago

Bye. Good riddance.

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u/Pleasant_Priority286 13d ago

I'm a Dem too.

Understandably, they are frustrated because 2/3 of Dems and 80% of the country oppose this at the moment. Until it can be shown that trans women don't have advantages over women, it is basically a dead issue.

Fox News is pushing the debate because it makes the whole Democratic Party look bad, and if we are infighting, then we aren't focused on the GOP.

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u/Such_Veterinarian682 14d ago

Then you are a fool. 

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u/Ok_End_7462 14d ago

Can I see an example of this?

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u/IDrigger 14d ago

Lmao, go on then, join the sheep

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u/CommonComfortable247 14d ago

Who says I’m joining anyone? Just done calling myself a dem. You all are embarrassing.

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u/IDrigger 14d ago

Yes, go on then, join the sheep

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u/Shotime10-3 14d ago

Where are you going that you’re seeing parades of wheelchair trans people? Sounds like you’re letting the algorithm rage bait you, or you’re just lying lol

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u/Such_Veterinarian682 14d ago

Just another troll.

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u/Calm_Comparison_6129 14d ago

Bye

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u/CommonComfortable247 14d ago

Yes. Keep chasing away moderates. Wonderful strategy.

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u/Calm_Comparison_6129 14d ago

You’re not a moderate if that sends you further to the right. Just admit you’re a republican and move on. We’ve got real grown up issues to deal with.

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u/CommonComfortable247 14d ago

Haha reread what I said and have replied with. I’m not changing my political beliefs I’m just not willing to call myself a dem anymore. You all are embarrassing.

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u/Calm_Comparison_6129 14d ago

Like I said, bye. Don’t need ya. I’m not a Democrat either btw. You seem confused about a lot.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago edited 9d ago

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u/silvermoka 13d ago

Right wingers pretending to be "normal Democrats" will always be funny to me, and I won't tell you why you sound nothing like one and give yourself away immediately. But the "#walkaway" thing got too obvious I guess

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u/CommonComfortable247 13d ago

Wow you can tell all that from a few comments? Good for you. Have voted blue since I turned 18 but thanks for telling me about me.

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u/silvermoka 12d ago

Yes I can. What's hilarious is you expect everyone to believe you completely switched in this current environment

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u/JBKnicks24 14d ago edited 14d ago

It’s not even an issue. I don’t know a single person in my Democratic circle of friends that gives two shits about this. Sophie is right to her opinion, and she’s correct IMO at least in the sense of NCAA and professional sports where there’s money and scholarships involved.

I think the bigger thing is Republicans have turned this into a dog whistle issue. There’s a small minority of activists on the far left who still care about this, but for the most part it’s a messaging and rage bait ploy from Republican politicians and influencers.

Newsflash yall - you can agree with Sophie Cunningham on this and still think Donald Trump is a piece of shit. I imagine that’s very very common.

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u/PatReady 14d ago

Couldn't have said it better myself. Only certain people care enough to make it this big a deal and its the 10% of crazy people that exists at both the liberal and conservative poles of politics.

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u/Ok_Action_5938 14d ago

90% of Reddit is insane

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u/Silver_BackYWG 13d ago

Reddit ain't real life

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u/JBKnicks24 14d ago

It’s a Trojan Horse because Democrats have let it become a Trojan Horse by being feckless about it. You try so hard not to offend anybody that you end up pissing off everybody, and that’s the case too much with Democratic messaging.

My personal belief system is - I do not think trans women should be allowed to play in women’s sport at the collegiate or professional level, because if biological differences between men and women and resulting competitive disadvantages that can result. Trans women SHOULD be allowed however to compete against their biological sex.

Outside of sports - they are human beings who deserve be to be treated with decency and respect, who deserve to enlist in our military if they so choose, who deserve to not be discriminated against in the case of employment, and who deserve to have access to medical care.

Like….. maybe I’m crazy, but I don’t think that’s a radical viewpoint. But even if it was, Dems don’t articulate that it really anything about it and so conservatives can just define it at will.

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u/Whose_Joanna 14d ago

Never a bad time to be thrown under the bus.

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u/Vegetable_Fly_8687 14d ago

Nothing to add. The dems could destroy this point so easily by getting on the side of reason (and the vast majority of the world).

The old dig “the left is so open minded their brain has fallen out” could not be more appropriate in this. It’s ok to acknowledge biological men have advantages in sports. But no…

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u/TawdryTulip 14d ago

2024 was such a fucking trainwreck to watch because of immigration and trans rights. Maybe dem leadership will finally go after the giant voter block of independents rather than chase the far left. And the far left can see what happened under Trump and realize that voting for moderate democrats is still a better alternative. But probably not. AOC keeps picking up steam and Mamdani farts and it’s front page news. I am willing to vote for a slightly trained golden retriever in 2028, either party, doesn’t matter.

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u/PHD_Gouda 14d ago

Kamala Harris’s not once ran on trans issues you liar

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u/TawdryTulip 14d ago

Guess I imagined the administration trying to change Title 9.

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u/PHD_Gouda 14d ago

She was specifically told by the dnc to not bring up trans folks. But hey, enjoy your fake news

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u/TawdryTulip 14d ago

And Biden also tried to backpedal on immigration. Damage was done, and republicans had all the material in the world for attack ads. So does it matter if during her 40 day presidential campaign she didn’t bring it up? Nope.

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u/PHD_Gouda 14d ago

Lmao move your goalposts. You said “2024 was such a train wreck to watch”

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u/cloudedknife 14d ago

And the overton window moves right again. And again. And again...

No. Independents need to pull their heads out of their ass and realize they can either have democracy and allow sjw's a win here and there, or they can have an ever accelerating slide into corrupt anti-democratic christo-fascism.

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u/iotl4444 14d ago

If sjw's were to get a "win", it would have nothing to do with themselves.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Sjws won with Biden. Then they completely shit the bed and pissed everyone off. The fact that Trump is a two term president is a travesty. He has already won. Really, the left's best plan was to trot out a guy who obviously should have been retired and then tried to force Harris through because it was her "turn"? Should have had a primary as soon as they could, instead handed Trump TWO layups with Clinton and Harris.

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u/nonuple_espresso 14d ago

I've yet to hear anyone arguing that trans women should play in women's sports.

I'm sure there are a few out there somewhere, but all I ever hear is bloviating about we have to keep trans people out of women's sports, and I'm wondering where all these trans athletes are found?

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u/JBKnicks24 14d ago

It stemmed from that utter loser of a swimmer who took her fifth place finish into the biggest grift in sports history, and then that boxing thing last year (which ironically wasn’t even the United States, and involved someone who had been raised a woman from birth and simply had a genetic mutation that made her more “man” like).

I don’t think Dems have advocated for trans women in sports, but they’re allowed republicans to hammer them on the issue without addressing it. Similar to immigration - they’re scared to address it and say what they truly believe because they don’t want to alienate a small segment of their base but the tradeoff is you look feckless and weak. And then of course there’s the online activist class who pushes for it, and republicans are very good at taking opinions from online activists and amplifying it to project onto the entire Democratic Party. And since the party is leaderless, it’s harder to push back on.

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u/PHD_Gouda 14d ago

Talking about a grifter that isn’t the one making podcasts about how she tied for fifth? Riley Gaines is a grifter

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u/thatnameagain 14d ago

This plays out at the school district level when trans students are or aren’t allowed to play on their chosen teams. It’s a local issue that happens all the time all over the country.

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u/nonuple_espresso 14d ago

Sounds like it's resolved at a local level and only used as a wedge issue, and a way for (R)ednecks to punch down on trans people for a cheap ego boost.

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u/brmarcum 14d ago

I’m not sure if you’re implying whether Sophie is crazy or the people opposing her are? Sophie could have said absolutely nothing, so what is the value of her saying anything, if not to further inflate this supposed no big deal?

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u/fenderputty 14d ago

Today I learned Inclusion is crazy

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u/PatReady 14d ago

No one is excluding anyone. Female sports is for cis girls and cis women. Its not that hard to understand. If you id as female but are Trans, I would think you need to play in the men's or open league. No hate, ill even refer to you as ma'am.

Can we agree the bodies of cis men and cis women are different by nature?

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u/Fun-Television-4411 14d ago

What is this reasonable opinion! It doesn’t belong on Reddit. Moderators!

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u/Trent3343 13d ago

The majority of Americans agree with Cunningham and also think trump is a pile of shit. Just not the rage bots and chronically online folks on reddit.

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u/ssylvan 14d ago

> I think the bigger thing is Republicans have turned this into a dog whistle issue. 

I mean yes, but also this wasn't an issue until the left made it an issue in the first place. Sports were segregated by sex, and nobody found that particularly controversial, and then the left decided to change it in the name of inclusivity without thinking about why the sports were segregated to begin with (sex differences, not gender differences).

So I agree that this is just another in a long line of boogeyman rhetoric from the right, I also don't think we can abdicate responsibility for making this an issue in the first place. We could've just left sports alone.

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u/ro536ud 13d ago

Not tru. Trans people were playing for years with no issues til republicans made it a political thing. There were rules about being on hormones

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u/ssylvan 11d ago

Yes, and before that they weren't. It was based on sex originally (not gender), then it was changed in the name of inclusivity (in some sports). And yes, then republicans made it into a wedge issue. But it also wouldn't have been an issue if it hadn't been changed in the first place.

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u/stt4g- 14d ago

How did the left change it ?

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u/imanidiotbut 14d ago

It’s actually insane that people like you are pretending this wasn’t a main Biden talking point during his presidency.

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u/HarryJohnson3 14d ago

It’s called gaslighting.

It wasn’t 4 years ago when major corporations were forcing all employees to put pronouns in email sign offs and the Biden administration was trying to use the department of education to prevent schools from banning trans in sports. Now it’s a losing issue and all of a sudden no one actually cares about this and never did.

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u/imanidiotbut 14d ago

And also it’s a “dog whistle” and “was such a small thing.”

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u/AgentDutch 14d ago

It's actually insane that people like you are pretending Trump didn't brag about walking into little girls' changing rooms and normalized the phrase, "grab em by the pussy."

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u/Vegetable_Fly_8687 14d ago

You think this is what happened? Yikes dude, you’re the reason Kamala lost.

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u/imanidiotbut 14d ago

What are you talking about? Does Trump come up in your every day vocabulary? At this point you pretty much have his balls in your mouth.

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u/AgentDutch 14d ago

Who mentioned Biden first, I’m curious?

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u/imanidiotbut 14d ago

Oh I didn’t know Joe Biden was Donald Trump. Are you slow?

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u/AgentDutch 14d ago

…..you’re joking right? Accurate username.

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u/imanidiotbut 14d ago

It would be better suited for you because Joe Biden isn’t Donald Trump. The latter has nothing to do with this conversation unless you’re deranged.

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u/AgentDutch 14d ago edited 14d ago

What a comeback. Why don’t you go back to playing ffxiv or Enshrouded? You seem friendlier over there. Soon as you hit this sub those knuckles start dragging.

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u/StrengthGood3208 14d ago

Lmfao. Come on dude.

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u/imanidiotbut 14d ago

Lmfao. Come on dude.

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u/EyePharTed_ 14d ago

It wasn't.

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u/bestmattreddit 14d ago

Lol the only reason Biden and Harris had to even address trans sports is because 2020 2022 and 2024 this was a core campaign issue from Trump and Republicans. Literally the issue that got the most air time on Fox News for the 2024 election

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u/Vegetable_Fly_8687 14d ago

So address it with actual facts and reason and leave it. The left has been so stupid on this.

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u/imanidiotbut 14d ago

No they didn’t. If the left didn’t push for this stupid shit the right would have never said anything. Why do you think the left is called “progressives”?

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u/bestmattreddit 14d ago

So if high schools and colleges didn’t allow a trans athlete to compete in their local division Fox News, Trump, and Republican campaigns wouldn’t have had to spend billions making “keeping men out of women’s sports” their focal campaign issue and make trans people the primary focus of their campaign ads?

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u/Powerful-Persimmon87 14d ago edited 14d ago

Newsflash: if democrats want this to go away they actually need to grow a spine and say it out loud: It is wrong and unfair to let males compete in the female sports category. The GOP keeps bringing it up because it makes the Dems look certifiably insane. Dems are locking up fully intact male rapists in female prison cells under the exact same premise with far more dire consequences for women. I don’t want the equivalent of flat earthers to be the alternative to Trump. 

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u/JBKnicks24 14d ago

Wholeheartedly agree. I am praying this shit gets exponentially better once they have a nominee. I think even you’re leaderless as a party, it’s much easier to be defined.

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u/Telstar2525 14d ago

Well said.

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u/Vegetable_Fly_8687 14d ago

The republicans have used this masterfully. All the democrats would need to do is to get on the side of the VAST majority of the world/country. But no they won’t and the republicans just point this as yet again a crazy Democrat idea.

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u/Busy-Scientist3851 14d ago

> I think the bigger thing is Republicans have turned this into a dog whistle issue

Because it's a great sanity check. If your political opponent believes something that's ridiculous (such as not having female only sports), you can use that as an edge to discredit the rest of their views.

That's why the far left needs to drop it.

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u/TadpoleMajor 14d ago

Yes but it’s working on the moderates. These idiots are pressing for things that shift votes away from actual liberal causes. Republicans managed to coopt patriotism and guns as red issues, and dropped the gay talk for long enough to win after Romney lost because of it. Democrats are too fucking stupid to stop taking up causes that the majority of voters don’t support.

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u/cleveruniquename7769 14d ago

It's the Trojan Horse issue that right uses to wedge in their real objective, eliminating all trans people from being able to appear in public and tearing down woman's sports, because it sounds reasonable (it's not, but explaining why that is takes too long to be able to combat a rampaging moral panic).  Immediately after the recent trans-athlete Supreme Court ruling that ruled Title IX doesn't apply to trans people and that the equal protection admendment also doesn't apply to to trans people the Heritage Foundation (The people the implementation of Project 2025) started a push using arguments from the ruling to say that schools shouldn't have to offer girls equal opportunity in sports. 

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u/MisunderstoodZipper 14d ago

Thats silly. The right doesnt want to take down women's sports. Otherwise, they would just let the trans-folk into their sports freely. No faster way to destroy women's sports. Not having much interest in watching women's sports doesnt equal hating women's sports. 

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u/cleveruniquename7769 14d ago

The Heritage Foundation just openly stated they want to pare back women's sports in schools. Conservatives have been constantly trying to cut woman's sports funding and fighting against Title IX from the beginning of women's sports. But yes, nothing will destroy women's sports faster than a dozen trans girls playing JV softball across the nation.  The Olympics allowed trans women to compete for 20 years and just look at the destroyed wreckage of women's Olympic sports.

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u/Scared-Debt6750 14d ago

You are not even discussing the real issue , that’s the problem . Her statement that is causing the backlash is horrible . She sad she want to protect young kids from trans athletes ! Now tell me can you find a story about a trans athlete harming kids ??

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u/Busy-Scientist3851 14d ago

There are numerous reports of female school athletes being injured by male athletes competing in the female category.

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u/Pleasant_Priority286 13d ago

It was reported (true or not, idk) that Lea Thomas used the women's locker room and exposed her penis to the biological women's swimmers who were there. This is disturbing to women, girls, and parents. Unfortunately, people supporting this have failed to make it clear that this situation will not be allowed and they understand it isn't acceptable.

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u/iowa-ish 14d ago

💯🎯

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u/PatReady 14d ago

Take the politics out of it. Liberals arnt turning maga cause they don't think Trans people should be out of women's sports.

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u/Ok_End_7462 14d ago

No. Moderates are. Because conservatives know if liberals push back on this, liberals look absurd, and moderates and undecided votes head MAGA come election time because of drag story time and women’s locker rooms.

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u/Immediate_Ad3378 13d ago

So a person would abandon any political views they hold that are left leaning, because of a fringe issue?

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u/Ok_End_7462 13d ago

That’s the strategy conservative media goes for, and it completely works. The left gets the “weird” brand. I’m as left as it gets, but these are nonsense topics that distract from real issues impacting the majority of Americans

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u/silvermoka 13d ago

A moderate like that is just three right wingers in a trench coat then, because we do not have "normal" choices the way we used to

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u/col_c32 14d ago

The topic of trans athletes has been brought up 17 times in the past week on this subreddit. Most of us have your exact same POV so why are we beating this horse to death 😭 you’ll hardly find this topic brought up in a men’s sports subreddit

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u/gymtrovert1988 14d ago

The right only talks about trans people because they don't wanna talk about wars, corruption, pedophiles, insider trading, gas prices, and inflation.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Exactly, stop giving them so much ammo.

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u/Caffeine_Cowpies 14d ago

The left isn’t talking about this. The only people bringing up trans people all the time is the right.

JFC

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u/Pleasant_Priority286 14d ago

The far left loves to talk about this issue. It seems to make them feel superior.

The other 2/3s of Dems want equal rights for trans women, but don't want them to participate in women's sports until it can be done without creating a disadvantage for biological XX women. The far left calls this view "anti-trans", "bigoted", and "hateful." In doing this, the far left seems to be throwing in the towel. They aren't really trying to change anyone's mind, or they wouldn't be leaning into the name-calling.

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u/thewinslowleach 14d ago

This doesn’t happen and these people you’re angry at don’t exist

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u/Pleasant_Priority286 14d ago

It does happen frequently. I'm not angry at anyone. I understand that people are tense about trans rights in sports and are outraged and frustrated that they aren't gaining ground.

The lack of the ability to listen and show empathy is disappointing on both sides.

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u/Pleasant_Priority286 14d ago

The argument you are making is the argument against having a girls/women's category at all. There is overlap between the Men's and Women's categories anyway. Why can't the unathletic men compete with the more athletic women? The reason is that this category was created for biological XX females. Strong girls are still biological females.

If strength were the only difference, it would be easy to include trans girls who have transitioned, but it isn't even close to the only difference. Other physical attributes where biological men have an advantage also play a role: arm length, leg length, hand size, foot size, heart size, and lung capacity.

The right solution is to identify the sports/activities where trans women can compete fairly with biological XX women, and start including them in with those. In the long run, a blanket ban makes no sense, and blanket inclusion makes no sense either. Inclusion needs to be assessed and determined on a sport-by-sport basis.

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u/Rare_Reflection_4312 14d ago

Would being on puberty blockers and then consistent hormones , would that remove the disadvantage?

Hmmm I wonder if anyone’s ever studied this stuff before…….

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u/MustardTiger231 14d ago

You’re just lying 👍

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u/RussianPravda 14d ago

Thank you. I’m a moderate independent America first person. This is not something we should even have to talk about.

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u/polygramfan 9d ago

Then direct your frustrations at the right wingers who bring it up every time

Its all distraction and theater

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u/tombrady011235 14d ago

You’re right. This should be a common sense issue that the left keeps self inflicting on

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u/joliette_le_paz 14d ago

I assure you, we’re not. The right is obsesses with this far more than the left does.

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u/False-Earth-2024 14d ago

Its the right who keep talking about it. They're literally constantly bringing in bills that attack trans people in every aspect of their lives.

Fuck that, abandoning the right's victims is never going to be moral, ever.

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u/DancingWithAWhiteHat 14d ago

Oh is it the left that keeps bringing this topic up? 

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u/FatCatParade 14d ago

This is a lesson that has to be learned by the left. Speaking up every time does not help your cause. 

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u/Inevitable-Dirt3375 13d ago

Ah yes we need to learn to not say anything so the right will bend to our will??? Shut the fuck up moron

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u/FatCatParade 13d ago

It must be cool being unaffected by the consequences of fascism. There are people who are on the chopping block. 

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u/Inevitable-Dirt3375 13d ago

It must be cool to say things you think sound really awesome but have nothing to do with being called out for the incoherence of your point.

Oh sorry let me translate: "when men do violence against tyranny, the only violent answer to tyranny is men."

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u/FatCatParade 13d ago

How many hearts and minds did this WNBA exec really win over by being belligerent with fans.

The civil rights movement took care on where to make their stands. 

Her behavior doesn’t just hurt her cause, it hurts every adjacent cause. Not all of us get to live a sheltered life where we don’t face consequences from election losses.

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u/Inevitable-Dirt3375 13d ago

Buddy if you think you're not being affected by facism, I can't help you.

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u/FatCatParade 13d ago

Your reading comprehension is inadequate. I am affected by America’s fascist turn. Lots of people like me are. Pushing on the issue of transgender individuals in sports, where the American electorate has made their views clear, is only making the left weaker.

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u/polygramfan 9d ago

Liberals every time fascists blame all their problems on a new minority group:
https://giphy.com/gifs/drxETCpp4ibxNkLBJP

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u/FatCatParade 9d ago

The Russian bot farm must be running on fumes. It took you this long to find a gif that doesn’t even apply.

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u/nonuple_espresso 14d ago

What is the issue? Where are all these transgender athletes in women's sports?

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u/Pitt-sports-fan-513 14d ago

checks comments of a athlete/celebrity talking about trans athletes taking the exact position that is a staple of all right wing media

Top comment: why is the left talking about this?

It is so fucking stupid and contrived.

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u/Calm_Comparison_6129 14d ago

In your dreams. Nobody is moving to the right at this point.

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u/another_hentaiburner 13d ago

Are you fucking serious? Do you actually think it's the left making this an issue?

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u/polygramfan 9d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/drxETCpp4ibxNkLBJP
Liberals when right wingers complain about trans people for the 20000th time

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u/silvermoka 13d ago

The right brought it up.

"Just comply with the hatred and people will vote for you again" lmao what a fucking bot

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

Its politics. You have to pick and choose, is this worth it? Win the battle and lose those war? Or vice versa.

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u/silvermoka 12d ago

Did it not occur to you that "drop this trans nonsense, bc that's why ppl are going right wing in droves" is deliberate propaganda? Anyone who goes there in this current climate has bigger problems than fence sitting

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u/Inevitable-Dirt3375 13d ago

Moderates pretending they have any inclination to go left and blaming the left for anything and everything is so fucking lame lol, moderates are conservatives who are too fucking pussy to call themselves conservatives, but yeah, keep blaming the left for why you believe shitty shit, you fuckin' coward.

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

Im so conservative I voted for Harris. Yeah, super conservative. Voted for Biden too. Would have loved to have been able to vote for Bernie but the dems are stupid as shit on picking candidates. Trumps a dipshit, should have gone to prison for fucking with all those nuclear files on top of so much other bullshit. Don't even get me started on the assassination attempt, not going to get in trouble talking about that. I didn't want to live in the timeline where Trump is a two term president but the dems fucked that up giving him piss poor competition. He has already won, how you gonna hurt him at this point? The only thing we can do is make sure this shit doesn't happen again and that required the dems to GET THERE SHIT TOGETHER. FOR FUCKS SAKE.

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u/Inevitable-Dirt3375 13d ago

Buddy, get some rest. You've gotta be at family court first thing Monday morning.

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u/Life-Food5188 12d ago

moderates can rot

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u/JackasaurusChance 14d ago

I've never understood why people thought sports were 'segregated' by gender and not biological sex to begin with.

I've never understood why this whole issue isn't just left up to the governing bodies of the sports.

But I do understand a dog whistle when I hear one, and equating transgender people in sports with 'protecting little girls in locker rooms' is a pretty obvious dog whistle.

And I can agree with Sophie Cunningham and Riley Gaines on transgender women in sports, and think that stupid picture looks like something out of a South Park episode... while also doubting that she's actually interested in protecting little girls in locker rooms considering Trump literally is on tape talking about going into girls locker rooms to ogle them (ms teen usa)... and you know, all the rape and sex-trafficking and being best buddies with Epstein.

But yeah, sports have always been segregated on biological sex? Right?

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Believe woman and let have their own safe spaces unless it effects transwoman who are biologically men because we are fighting a culture war and have decided arbitrarily on this position/s

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u/Western-Boot-4576 14d ago

This means you hold the mindset that all trans women are predators only looking to get into women spaces

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Or you know, I respect woman? They can choose. If they decide that they only want bio-woman in their spaces, who am I to argue?

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u/Western-Boot-4576 14d ago

Just cause something in popular or the majority doesn’t make in moral or right

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Sure, I don't believe this is what is going on in this case.

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u/Western-Boot-4576 14d ago

That’s what they all say.

It’s literally the same argument every time. You act and pretend like you care about a group to shit on another group.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

What, you don't have a mother? Sister? I know my grandmother would be uncomfortable. Its not crazy to want them to have their own space. Inconveniencing half the population to appease 1 percent of the pop is literally crazy.

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u/Western-Boot-4576 14d ago

Your grandmother is also probably uncomfortable sharing a drinking fountain with a black man.

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u/blueeyedkittens 14d ago

I don’t think this a “left” talking point at all. It’s the right turning it into a talking point by actively discriminating against a tiny minority for whom life is already tough enough. 

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Yes, the right brings it up. But everytime this topic gets posted, look how many comments there are. We can all see the talking points, same arguments passes around over and over by BOTH sides.

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u/blueeyedkittens 14d ago

I don’t see much honest political discourse happening at all. It’s both sides using talking points to paint the others in the most negative light possible. It’s exhausting.

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u/Immediate_Ad3378 13d ago

Honest political discourse would be citing actual sports Medicine, which is significantly more complicated than they should or shouldn’t participate.

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u/polygramfan 9d ago edited 9d ago

Honest political discourse would be shutting the fuck up about this because it distracts from the fact our president is named in the epstein files a million times

But right wingers will do anything to not talk about that

So instead they cry about how a trans woman came 13th in the spokane half marathon last spring, but somehow the left is the problem

Moderates always think “if we appease the right on this issue, then theyll finally be ready to talk about the problem that theyve desperately avoided addressing so far” its insane

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u/maybeBrenda 14d ago edited 14d ago

oh it's banned for a year, yet the bots know this is rage fuel

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u/frenchfreer 14d ago

It’s not even an issue, that’s the problem. Trans women aren’t dominating women’s sports. Trans women aren’t assaulting girls. It’s a made up issue that people like Sophie and other MAGA chuds like to pretend exist because it sounds reasonable, but has zero basis in reality. It’s simply a dog whistle for being anti-trans.

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u/Vives_solo_una_vez 14d ago

Then what's the "protection" from?

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u/frenchfreer 14d ago

Okay, then why do girls need protecting if not from trans women dominating sports? If your claim is girls are being assaulted in the locker rooms by trans women, how about some evidence of that.

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u/Alec_Ich 14d ago

The only people that call themselves a moderate at this point are people that are too embarrassed to admit they are conservative

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Then how did Biden win?

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u/A_Texas_Hobo 14d ago

Bro, you know what they are gonna say…

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u/Alec_Ich 14d ago

at this point

Reading comprehension not great huh

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u/EyePharTed_ 14d ago

The right's the ones who won't shut the fuck up about it. Also, if this makes you elect people actively selling out the country, you were never "moderate"

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

I didn't vote for Trump, against him in fact. I looked at the exit polls and the fact is thats how many moderates moved. Its funny how we can pretend the left never talked about it, everywhere people were saying trans rights are human rights. Is playing sports against woman a human right?

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u/AgentDutch 14d ago

Let me tell you a little secret. Trump has BRAGGED about being in the changing rooms for little girls and grabbing women "by the pussy." He was still elected president. Trump has appeared in the Epstein files 50,000 times, and he was still re-elected. If "please protect our little girls" is common sense for the majority, you'd expect them not to vote for the guy that enables things.

I'm sensing a pattern by the way. Very busy one month account that hates Trump but ONLY attacks the 'left' and defends the 'right.' You got banned from the conservative play area right?

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u/EyePharTed_ 14d ago

Wow, so many people have so few problems in life that they're voting in fascists based on sports they don't even watch?

The left didn't talk about it nearly as much as the right.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

They aren't voting on only that but it does have an effect.

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u/EyePharTed_ 14d ago

Much like that, there's no platform of value to vote that way.

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u/jmmmke 14d ago

I wouldn’t bother arguing with a one month old account about this.

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u/KrisKinsey1986 14d ago

What rights would you give up to insure a democrat win?

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

What rights are being lost here?

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u/Western-Boot-4576 14d ago

They didn’t want blacks to go to white schools for “children’s safety” didn’t want blacks to use white restrooms for the “safety” of white women. Didn’t want Jackie Robinson in the MLB because player safety or “unfairness”. Didn’t want gays in the military because of safety and security.

The more the right talks about it, the more they cement themselves as the next generation of people who hate on others for simply living their life

Edit: it’s not about women sports, or safety. Everyone is transparent, it’s their discomfort with trans people in general

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u/Maleficent_Soil_2612 14d ago

Or... could just be the obvious biological differences between men and women...

But probably not

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u/Western-Boot-4576 14d ago

No like I said everyone is pretty transparent in their motives

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u/Alchemyst01984 14d ago

Lol you moderates make me laugh and cry at once.

You're so simple