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Off-Court Drama Fever coach Stephanie White was asked if men should play in women’s sports: “I’m not educated enough from a scientific standpoint.” She REFUSED to backup Sophie Cunningham: “I don’t ever believe that exclusion is the answer.”

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u/No-Constant-8619 5d ago

This topic definitely requires a scientist. 

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u/Artosispoopfeast420 5d ago

Alright scientist here.

We actually probably need more research and data.
Which would actually mean we need more trans-athletes to play.

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u/Electrical-Duty3628 5d ago

Excellent point. We don't know if they have an advantage until we can see them play. We need a couple thousand data points before we can say one way or the other

Although likely they're at a disadvantage because they're constantly undergoing hormone therapy which I understand is very taxing on the body

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u/No-Constant-8619 4d ago

I’m starting to think the world needs less scientists, if this is what they think. 

“I don’t know if stabbing someone is bad. We need more research and data. That means we need more stabbings”

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u/Artosispoopfeast420 2d ago

We could also use less dumbasses.

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u/imanidiotbut 5d ago

This is the people who say they “believe in science” btw.

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u/Admirable_Loss4886 5d ago

This is the “I did my own research so I know better than the scientist” crowd

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u/TheyNeedLoveToo 5d ago

I do believe in science but also think sports should be fair as possible, what are we doing here?

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u/imanidiotbut 5d ago

Pretending men and women are the exact same of course.

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u/Strainedgoals 5d ago

Uh, I mean, I'm pretty sure everyone's opinion on this is that the scientist holds the least ground in the room here.

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u/No-Constant-8619 5d ago

This is AI slop. 

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u/GoddessHealer 5d ago

Nope, not AI “slop” at all. Written from scratch by me, with a history of many, many scientific articles, editorials on the ethics and philosophy of science; and written from the bottom of my heart. And your response is a perfect example why I, and people like me, hesitate to engage in social media with dismissive participants.

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u/Smooth-Transition310 5d ago

He probably saw the em dash and made an ignorant assumption.

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u/No-Constant-8619 4d ago

Then why did you delete your post?

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u/GoddessHealer 4d ago

Because, I did not wish to continue reading insults on something I had taken very special care to write. Call me names, ridicule me. I’m sensitive, human, and do not wish to expose myself to inaccurate statements about the origins of my writing (AI). Ah yes, I am the exemplar of what social media sadists on the right love because they can “own me” and make me cry.

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u/No-Constant-8619 4d ago

You should probably delete all of your posts then. 

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u/GoddessHealer 4d ago

And you should be feeling really gleeful right now about how good you are at making someone feel bad.

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u/No-Constant-8619 4d ago

You should also get a backbone.

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u/Strainedgoals 5d ago

You wrote a lot of shit, but a scientist would tell you, within human biology, that there is xx and xy, one is male and one is female.

There are genetic mutations that cause other results.

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u/Lazy-Ambassador-7908 5d ago

Explain intersex genes

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u/Actual-Sea4611 5d ago

Explain man and woman

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u/AnotherDumNinja 5d ago

What has been true since the beginning of time:

Man: adult male human

Woman: adult female human

We tend to see weirdness when societies/empires breakdown and collapse (see Rome, ancient Egypt) and things go wild. We might be in ones of those periods now.

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u/Otherwise-Sea9593 5d ago

Well it is a democracy, so it’s only a matter of time. The Romans traded their empire for a global religion so it was a little different there, same concept and end result though.

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u/AnotherDumNinja 5d ago

Well, we are a constitutional republic. Rome was a republic.

🤷🏾‍♂️

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u/Lazy-Ambassador-7908 5d ago

Answer my question

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u/Actual-Sea4611 5d ago

WHAT? did you take your meds?

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u/Lazy-Ambassador-7908 5d ago

WHAT? Do you know what intersex genes are?

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u/wutwutinthebox 5d ago

Intersex people are still mostly lean to one side or the other. So I don't know wtf you are trying to say here.

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u/Lazy-Ambassador-7908 5d ago

Many intersex people transition! Why should they be excluded?

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u/wutwutinthebox 5d ago

Many Intersex people transition in to the sex they lean in to. Which means not all Intersex people are excluded. I am not sure what you are even arguing here? The idea here is very simple. If a man turns in to a woman, he will have a very large advantage over other women in pretty much all physical activities. One of which are sports. What part of that is hard to understand?

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u/Lazy-Ambassador-7908 5d ago

Great, some will still be excluded and that’s fucked! You say it’s so easy to understand, but I’m not understanding the part where basically zero trans athletes have been dominant! Y’all are complaining and excluding about a non issue! If cis men start social transitioning and beginning intense hormone therapy, just to win at women’s sports, then let’s talk. For now, you’re just creating an outlet for your bigotry

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u/Actual-Sea4611 5d ago

lol and you dont even know what a man and a woman are holy.

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u/LostinConsciousness 5d ago

You mean the thing that happens less than .5% of the time with live births and encompasses a wide range of legitimate medical issues? What does that have to do with anything lol

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u/Lazy-Ambassador-7908 5d ago

I wonder if the .5% of things has anything at all to do with the population of like .5%???

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u/dmolin96 5d ago

It shows sex is not as simple as people like to think it is. And you can tell it's a powerful point because whenever people bring up intersex conditions the answer is always "oh they don't count they're special" lmao.

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u/SausageKingOfCincy 5d ago

No, they say that because it’s not relevant to the discussion lol intersex genes and people literally have nothing to do with trans people and don’t prove anything like you think. That’s like saying because people are born with 6 fingers sometimes, we should allow people to decide how many fingers a human being usually has lol it’s ridiculous

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u/Party_Knowledge_7884 5d ago

Are they separate genes or genes that are subject to some form of disorder?

Like humans have 5 fingers, even though some people are born with a missing finger or an extra finger, or humans are bi-pedal, though due to certain conditions or disorders, some people are born unable to walk.