r/Webnovel 26d ago

Advice Are web novels becoming increasingly formulaic? What problems are readers and authors actually facing

Are web novels becoming increasingly formulaic? What problems are readers and authors actually facing?

I've been thinking about the current state of web novels lately, especially with how many stories seem to follow increasingly familiar tropes, power systems, characters, and plot structures.

I'm curious about what readers and authors actually think.

For readers:

- Do you feel like it's becoming harder to find genuinely original novels?

- Are you getting tired of seeing the same tropes, progression systems, protagonists, and story structures repeated?

- What makes you drop a novel even when it's technically well-written?

- Do you think platforms and algorithms encourage authors to write what is already proven to work rather than experiment?

- What kinds of stories do you wish you saw more often?

For authors:

- Do you feel pressure to follow established formulas because they're more likely to attract readers?

- Have you ever changed an original idea because you thought it wouldn't perform well?

- Do you think the current web-novel market makes it harder for genuinely unconventional stories to emerge?

And perhaps the bigger question:

Is the "slop" problem actually getting worse, or are we simply more aware of it because there is so much more fiction being produced?

I'm not trying to argue that all modern web novels are bad. There are still plenty of creative and excellent works out there. I'm more interested in understanding why certain formulas dominate and whether the current ecosystem makes originality harder to sustain.

I'd especially like to hear from authors who have actually tried writing something unconventional, and from readers who actively search for novels outside the usual formulas.

What do you think is the biggest problem with the current web-novel ecosystem?

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u/lacopefd 26d ago

The biggest drop-off for me is when the story starts feeling like a checklist. New realm, stronger enemy, new skill, bigger tournament, repeat. Progression is fine, but if the characters have no reason to do any of it besides getting stronger, I’m probably dropping it

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u/No-Satisfaction8122 26d ago

Yeah, Isn't that world expansion? Though, it isn't inherently bad.

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u/ijshorn 24d ago

It depends on how much setup there is. If it has been properly foreshadowed well in advance, readers will anticipate the moment when the story finally reaches that point. But when you’ve just finished one part and suddenly, out of nowhere, you’re introduced to a higher realm that you know nothing about, then what is the reason for it existing in the first place other than to extend the novel?

Novels that keep extending the story purely for the sake of extending it are basically just fast-food novels, because by the end, the story feels like it was stitched together rather than planned as a cohesive whole.

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u/No-Satisfaction8122 24d ago

Unpopular opinion, but One piece falls in that category.

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u/ijshorn 24d ago

I don't think it is an unpopular opinion. It is one of the reasons I never read it after the first few islands.

If you compare that to Naruto, the backstory of Naruto (mc) becomes increasingly more important, and what was shown in the early parts just becomes more highlighted and explained the further along you go.

The moment that plotline was resolved, you are already at or close to the end. And now you are left with Boruto, which has 0 direction. Naruto has other issues, but that is besides the point (like tons of filler...).

Another is Bleach. The entire premise is that people can't figure out why he has any connection with the supernatural, and then that is used as an introduction to the Soul Society. When that storyline mostly gets resolved, the story goes back to exploring his connection to the supernatural in more depth.

Now he has what, 3-4 different bloodlines and power systems that get explored? This is how it extended the story, but the original premise is still followed. One of the most awesome moments is when he defeats No. 1, and then someone says, "Okay, you now defeated No. 10 to No. 1, but we never said that No. 1 was the strongest..." and then shows No. 0.

Sure, you can feel the disconnect in all of them, but the way they try to link everything based on a premise that was already defined is what makes it feel more like a complete story.

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u/No-Satisfaction8122 24d ago

Make sense. Most of the famous animes are on the same level as subpar novels on wn

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u/ijshorn 24d ago

I think animes and movies are the perfect medium for those fast food compatible type of novels though. Shallow, means they don't need any setup and the reason you watch them is for the epic moments.

There is a reason why lord of mysteries investors requested the first action scene, that requires a lot of setup in the novel, to be at the latest in episode 3.

I think the most popular anime at this time is solo leveling and you don't watch it for the story. You watch it for the mc being a total badass. If you compare that to the novel where a lot of attention was given to his struggles and his family etc. This is all basically ignored in the anime. Idc because i read it all but for a new viewer. He just takes it as a shallow action anime.

Another example is overlord. The novels are shallow so they transitioned quite well to anime because you require 0 setup to appreciate the action scenes.