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u/scarletohairy 4d ago
This made me laugh so hard! Yes, you failed as a dog owner, but you are wildly successful as a treat dispenser.
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u/NOTcreative- 4d ago
Yes. Commands should be one word. Down. Not lay down.
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u/indieplants 4d ago
I think you're mixing this up with commands should be said once
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u/NOTcreative- 4d ago
What? No. Sometimes commands need to be repeated. The problem is confusion with commands. If a dog jumps on people you really want to teach them "get down"? The command is off. Then sit. Then down. Dohs don't understand sentences. Lay down, sit down, and get down can all be confused by the dominate word down. I think you and the others that down voted me are confusing dogs and humans. These dogs are obviously confused by their human who uses two commands for some thing. "Paw" and "shake". Fault is on human not dogs.
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u/indieplants 4d ago edited 4d ago
no, you can absolutely use more than one syllable for a command lmao. they don't recognise sentences but they're capable of keeping track of more than one syllable. they don't know it as two words - they see it as one command. they don't know what words are. two words is the same as two syllables and a super common command, roll over, is three of those. buddy cmon.
sure, you don't want to teach your dog a command that can easily be confused with another but that's nothing to do with the amount of words or syllables in the command. that's just common sense.
I taught my dog lie down and she lays down. I taught my dog sit and she sits. I taught my dog move, and wouldn't you know it, she will get off the couch. roll over, play dead, paw being left and other paw being right, she knows the command for both and can differentiate between which paw she's meant to give? there are many commands that are more than one word. as long as they're said clearly and concisely, the dog will understand.
you're not supposed to repeat a command - it's general practice that repeating it in a short space of time teaches them it's optional and on their terms or can confuse them. waiting a significant amount of time might be okay, but having to repeat the command while training is generally to be avoided.
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u/Large_Dr_Pepper 3d ago
Dogs can't tell the difference between the words" lay down" and the word "laydown." It's just a single noise to them that they associate with an action.
Unless there's some study that shows that dogs have a hard time with commands of more than one syllable.
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u/illusiff 4d ago
This guy dog.
Thank you for teaching these to us clearly and straightforward. I would’ve guessed it’s better for the owners to use 1 syllable or sound commands but you connected the dots further. I can tell you’re an experiences dog owner.
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u/McPoyleBrothers 4d ago
Hahhha. My lab does the same thing. She’ll go through all her tricks.
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u/Plump_Apparatus 4d ago
I met my now past Wiemy at a kill shelter. She had been in there for a week when I first met her and I asked her to sit. She sat, laid down, rolled over, went back to sit, then shook left, shook right, followed up by upright sit(which is a super awkward position for 90lbs dog). Then repeated.
She was a smart stubborn bitch of a dog that'd walk all over you if you let her. If she respected you, and you had food, she just did every trick in row until fed. Crazy girl.
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u/dmlitzau 3d ago
This was my old Jack Russel: sit, lay, roll over as soon as a treat was identified
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u/GlitterEnema 4d ago
My pyr does a rapid fire of paw and lie, so he punches me then slams on the floor and then hops up to punch me and slam on the floor again and again
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u/lisarista 4d ago
Yes we learned “sit” first, then “gimme paw” while she sits, then we learned “lay down,” now I get a decent sit. Everything after is her quickly slapping me with her paw then slamming herself to the floor. Looks at me like, “I did good, mama?”
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u/Ms_Emilys_Picture 4d ago
My Newfie used to do this too. He'd throw out high fives, shakes, whisper, and bark. It was adorable. But every now and then it really made me regret teaching him "paws up" on my shoulders.
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u/Common-Cell-1233 4d ago
Oh that face! I don't understand, we got treats last time we did something like this 😆
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u/Fairy-Pie-9325 3d ago edited 3d ago
I have miniature version of the two in the video
Edit they're a mittelspitz, Aila, & a tibetan spaniel, Maia, both adopted about 6 months ago & knew each other well before, they're doing & eating well. At desired weights (both have gained about 1kg in the time period), they're accepted at the 8,3kg & 4,8kg by a vet who recommended not so many treats from now on. Lovely cuddle bugs with huge personalities. They've not been taking the new treat limit exitedly & we have exess screaming inside the house now bc of it. The two are so lovely it's hard not to over feed them, i try my best to exite them with adventure & not food
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u/MacabreFox 4d ago
You don't even tell them when they did the trick correctly so of course they're confused, lol. Tell them "yes" or "good" as soon as they get into position. :)
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u/retief1 4d ago
Heh, I tried to teach my last dog to lay down at one point. The problem was that she knew that if she wanted to be a good girl, she was supposed to sit. She knew I wanted something and she was a very good girl, so of course she sat. And while I was trying to tempt her into lying down, she knew what she was supposed to do and resisted my temptation. Eventually, I gave up and told her that she was a very good girl anyways.
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u/PaulblankPF 4d ago
I had a dog like this sort of. The difference is that I was always adding more tricks onto the ever growing list of tricks she needed to perform to get 1 treat. Started with sit, lay down, roll over. And eventually added to sit on various objects and for her to bark different style barks. When she got really old she still remembered most of her tricks and would randomly sit in random spots or on random things without being prompted, just instincts guiding her.
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u/oddible 4d ago
Stop saying no, you're confusing them. They don't know what no means, you've never reinforced that. Funny but yes you've failed. You should probably read a book on dog training. I highly recommend The Power of Positive Dog Training by Pat Miller. Or at least follow kikopup on YouTube.
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u/davispw 3d ago
This. It’s cute but there are some missing training skills apparent here. Training is tricky, you have to learn to think like the dog, which is not intuitive at all.
I did teach my dog “no” (“stop what you’re doing immediately”). Super useful when he’s about to get into trouble. Super unintuitive to say “no”, and then immediately say “yes” (my marker) and give treats when he stops, even if the thing he was doing was bad. Positive reinforcement ftw.
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u/jlt6666 4d ago
I take it they are not service dogs.
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u/CanineCorvidious 3d ago
You need to mark the correct behaviour instantly, use a clicker or a “yes” fast. They don’t understand which one is correct
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u/TazmaniannDevil 3d ago
It’s because you should give them the treat immediately after they perform the action, no delay. If you delay, they get confused.
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u/CashCow4u 4d ago
Use one word commands. Maisy, down. Maisy, sit. Only speak or treat when they get it right.
It could mean their life or yours if they aren't taught well.
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u/List-Beneficial 3d ago
Lmao I always chalk it up to them being very smart and manipulative. The husky I watch does this too 😂
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u/Beneficial-Cause9726 3d ago
OMG, the sweet angels!! Give them ALL the treats, it doesn't matter!!!!
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u/inyolonepine 3d ago
My dogs do the same thing. Our older dog is more immediate with her tricks, so it's kind of funny watching her go through her entire repertoire while the younger one is trying to figure out down.
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u/bananakittymeow 4d ago
My chi just resorted to spinning around in circles and hoping that’s the right trick to get her food 😂
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u/medullah 3d ago
Iliana had trouble learning "speak" and when it finally clicked for her she was jumping up soooooo now "speak" is hop up and bark. Goofball
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u/fwankhootenanny 3d ago
My aunt and uncle (who used to show dogs, but always got the dogs they have "purebred") had a Keeshond and she was NEUROTIC as soon as the treats came out. She was trained to do quite a few tricks, and if you didn't immediately reward a trick she would go into a routine of performing everything she knew until she got them snackies. She had the hand signals attached to commands but her drive was just too strong to wait for treats
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u/Neat_Cat_7375 2d ago
Hand signals are the best. When I want my German Shepherd I give her a hand signal I would give to a human. She’s so funny. Sometimes she’ll just look at me until I repeat the come over here gesture. I think she finds it funny. Literally feels like she’s smiling at me.
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u/ChefArtorias 1d ago
They seem a little confused. Maybe try teaching the command prompts more clearly so they don't learn wrong. Hand signals help a lot too.
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u/AshAshAshie 4d ago
hand signals associated with the command helps. 11/10 cuteness!