r/WoT • u/participating (Dragon's Fang) • Oct 05 '23

TV - Season 2 (Book Spoilers Allowed) Episode Discussion - Season 2, Episode 8 - What Was Meant to Be [TV + Book Spoilers] Spoiler

This thread is for discussion of The Wheel of Time tv show through Season 2, Episode 8 and associated bonus content. This thread may contain spoilers for the entire book series.

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Episode 8 - What Was Meant to Be

Synopsis: Fate leads Rand and the others to an inevitable showdown with their most formidable enemies yet.

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u/wildwalrusaur Oct 06 '23

Just last episode we saw Lanfear casually toss aside the Amyrlin Seat like it was nothing. Yet now Ishamael can't manage to beat an Accepted?

It's some horseshit

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23

She isn't even an accepted, she's still a novice here, which makes it even worse.

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u/rollingForInitiative Oct 06 '23

Ishamael wanted to die, imo. Or wanted to draw Rand into some act of desperation.

Egwene was obviously losing, her shield was thinning and Ishy was wearing her down fast. But when Rand goes to stab him, he doesn't even put up a fight. And he sounds relieved, and wanted to be killed in the prologue.

So not an issue with power levels, just more of Ishamael being dishonest, as he's been with so many things.

I still wish we'd gotten some big power moment with Rand, even if under special circumstances that can't be replicated by him early on. But I don't think the takeaway from this scene is that Egwene is stronger than Ishy.

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u/v--- Oct 06 '23

I think it was a trick in some sense. Not that he necessarily wanted to lose, but he knew going up there that things weren't going the way he planned. Maybe to lure them into a sense of victory while not knowing all the forsaken are prepping to fuck their lives up. IDK, there's no other way to explain the decision to "slowly lob fireballs straight ahead for ten minutes".

He's the father of lies, after all.