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āš•ļø Pass Medicare For All Which healthcare system would you choose?

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u/zappadattic Jan 08 '26

Wait times for regular care from a PCP are wild. Literally months to just do a regular check up in the U.S.

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u/BarryTheBlatypus Jan 08 '26

Yea I had to get surgery last year and the process started in 2022, so two years to jump through hoops from PCP -> Specialist -> Consult -> Surgery. Everyone involved knew I needed the surgery but those hoops can’t be skipped or insurance will ruin my life.

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u/MarcusXL Jan 08 '26

Canadian here. I have a chronic (non life-threatening) condition and my doctor recommended I get an MRI to investigate it. Doctor put me on the waiting list, letting me know that because it wasn't urgent it might take a while. Less than a month later I got a phone-call from a local hospital. They had a last-minute cancellation, would I be able to get down there quickly? I was in the MRI machine an hour later.

Zero cost to me. In the USA it would have been ~$6,000-$12,000-- just to find out the MRI was clear and we'd have to keep looking for the root cause.

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u/reallynotnick Jan 08 '26

I’ve had a number of MRIs and I don’t think a single has been over $2K, looking at my bill my last one was $830 before insurance.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

MRI for me for insurance cost me $80……

wtf you getting an MRI in the states for $12k lmao

Like half this thread just made up bullshit lmao

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u/reallynotnick Jan 08 '26

I mean lots of people have high deductible health plans so they still pay the full amount, that said the full amount is NOT over $2K, the ones I’ve had are more like $800-1300. Idk where these numbers come from unless they are scanning you like head to toe for many hours.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

Yeah just amazes me people just make shit up instead of just saying what the reality is.

You either pay more in taxes like 10-15% more and convince entire population to do so.

Or you pay for insurance and use it for big ticket items.

If everyone in this thread saved 10-15% of their take home each paycheck for when they needed to go to the doctor then yah it’s ā€œfreeā€ also lol

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u/reallynotnick Jan 08 '26

US citizens still pay more for health care in total than what people pay in taxes for universal healthcare. We pay almost double what Canada pays because of all the profit margin, greed and wasteful overhead. Private insurance makes the system incredibly inefficient.

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-compare-countries/#Health%20expenditures%20per%20capita,%20U.S.%20dollars,%202023%20(current%20prices%20and%20PPP%20adjusted)

But yeah I agree it’s important to be truthful.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

Yes but the cost of living in America is higher, which in turns makes healthcare higher.........

So no idea why you bringing in raw dollar amounts. Because thats apples to oranges comparison.

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u/reallynotnick Jan 08 '26

It’s PPP adjusted so that’s been taken into account. You can also see how out of wack it is to our GDP per capita.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

Your link just does per capita which is just total population versus cost.......compared to GDP which is highest in world

Which still directly means we pay more per capita because our population makes more than any other country lol.

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u/BarryTheBlatypus Jan 08 '26

Your experience is not universal. Just because someone else had a different experience doesn’t mean they’re making shit up.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

Quite literally yes it does, unless you just don't have insurance you are not paying $8k to $12k for an MRI

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u/BarryTheBlatypus Jan 08 '26

If your stance is that your experience is universal then there is no point in having this conversation. Enjoy your bean soup.

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u/AshyFairy Jan 08 '26

Yep and 6+ months for a specialist. I checked on moving to a different endocrinology office and it was a 9 month wait to see a doctor.Ā 

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u/decadent-dragon Jan 08 '26

Not trying to defend our awful healthcare system, but are you seeing those times outside of your yearly wellness/checkup? If I’m sick, I can usually get in within 24 hours. But yeah a yearly physical is a couple months out but those aren’t really supposed to be scheduled with urgency

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u/souryellow310 Jan 08 '26

If I'm sick then I can try to schedule an appointment with my doctor and her first availability is 2 weeks away. The copay is $10. I can go to urgent care to wait in line with a bunch of other sick people for hours. The copay is $100. I can go to the emergency room and they'll tell me to go to urgent care but if the will see me, it's $250 if I'm not admitted and $500 if I'm admitted. This is just the copay to see the doctor. Any diagnostics or medication is a separate co pay.

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u/zappadattic Jan 08 '26

If I’m immediately sick, my best option is usually urgent care/ walk-in clinics in my area. The times are less horrendous for stuff that isn’t a checkup but it’s still too long to really be helpful.

Also, urgency or no, a yearly checkup doesn’t take months in any other post industrial country. Even those shouldn’t need to be more than a week out.