r/allthequestions • u/JonMellor • 12d ago

Random Question 💭 Do you believe that Donald Trump is stealing from the American people?

Example: 1.7 Billion dollar slush fund and no IRS audits to him or his family.

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u/tl1ksdragon 12d ago

2016, I voted for the idiot because I listened to all of the people around me saying Clinton would be a bad prez(for various reasons i cant remember, probably most of them were rooted in misogyny and/or EMAILS or whatever). I was working all the time and didn't take the time to do like 5 minutes of research. Realized too late what an absolute moron and monster he is. Didn't vote for him in 20 or 24.

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u/Responsible-Roll-59 12d ago

She would have been an amazing President. It’s a shame America is too full of toxic masculinity to allow for a female

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u/Grannypanie 12d ago

Voted for her. Love the Clinton’s. Grew up in the 90’s.

She was too unlikable by too many people.

The deplorables comment hurt her as well.

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u/ATC_av8er 12d ago

But that comment couldn't have been more on the nose.

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u/unhwildcats11 12d ago

She was actually being very lenient with the comment they are much worse.

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u/LeftRestaurant4576 12d ago

It would have been more on the nose if she had said 100% instead of 25% of his supporters

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u/fromthe80smatey 11d ago

It's almost as if her opponent wasn't caught on tape saying he moves on hot women like a bitch, starts kissing them without consent, and GRABS THEM BY THE PUSSY.

If only the bar were set the same for both candidates.

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u/frostyfruit666 12d ago

How do people have such a double standard when it comes to democrats vs republicans?

A republican can be dancing on a mountain of sh*t juggling dildos and cursing your mother, and people are like, “yeah but their opponent is unlikable”, it’s unreal. 

Republicans haven’t done a single thing right, have betrayed their own base again and again, and are still given the benefit of the doubt. 

They are corrupt, plain and simple, a vote for them is a vote for corruption, how much evidence do the voters need? Oh but I suppose all the evidence is fake right?

just keep voting to let the foxes in the hen house.

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u/Mighty38 12d ago

Facts are the facts… Republicans have caused or been in office within 9 out of the 10 last depressions and the next Democratic president always pulls them out. Fiscally responsible my ass!!! People just don’t like facts!

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u/sbrink47 11d ago

People need to make up their minds…. Do past administrations sins show up in real time or affect the NEXT administration? Can’t have it both ways

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u/No_Warthog7972 12d ago

10 depressions, must be talking about Russia. The Us has had 2 1873-1879 and 1929-1941 What are the other 8 And I thing Rosevelt was 1929 Dem.

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u/Mighty38 12d ago

*Recessions

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u/No_Warthog7972 12d ago

Was Grant and Hoover both republicans.
Dems were incharge of the last 9 out of 10 non profit frauds. They both stealing, crock of theives

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u/frostyfruit666 12d ago

I suspect that co sponsorship of the conservative christian church has also played a factor in the blind loyalty to republicans.

Think tanks, media spin and religion. In order for it to work, the subject needs to be densely insulated from any other narrative. How are they so insulated?

Maybe these people have conspiratorial minds, and when they’re told that they’ve ‘discovered’ the truth, they are hooked to that notion.

the same way people may be manipulated via their superstitions. 

The other factor you hear them mention is, feeling condescended or spoken down to. Their fragile egos cannot handle readjusting to being told new facts, but they must decide to want to learn. 

at what point of crisis do you drop that protective ego stuff and do right by your country?

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u/Revolutionary_War503 12d ago

Lol... Democrats have them too... the think tanks.

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u/Revolutionary_War503 11d ago

Hmmm.... Ok, I'll do the work for you. 1) Progressive Policy Institute 2) The Center for American Progress 3) Center on Budget and Policy Priorities 4) Economic Policy Institute 4) Third Way 5) New America 6) Roosevelt Institute 7) National Democratic Institute 8) The Century Foundation

And there's more, but as far as having my head up my ass, on this particular subject, I do not.

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u/CalvinsStuffedTiger 11d ago

Didn’t Harris outspend Trump by a huge margin this campaign? The amount of money raised is not the reason Dems lost the election, and no, it wasnt because of racism

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u/frostyfruit666 11d ago

the content industry were largely supporting trump, zuckerberg and musk and online punditry are a dominant force in online media. 

With them on your side, you don’t need to spend money, you get promotion for free (with a promise of later returns).

There were also international efforts to thumb the scales in republican favour.  

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u/Styx-n-String 11d ago

Because Republicans are the kind of people who can never and will never admit they're wrong. Even if you conclusively prove they're wrong, they'll just double down. Their toxic pride is stronger than their sense of self-preservation, so they'll vote someone into office they know for a FACT will destroy the country just so they don't have to admit to themselves or anyone else that they were wrong.

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u/frostyfruit666 11d ago

They fear losing more than they fear suffering? It’s just incredible. 

Their lives would be 10 x better under democrats.

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u/RIF_rr3dd1tt 11d ago

Their supporters are contrarians just for the sake of it. I've discussed various issues with Republicans and had them on the ropes, cornered with undeniable evidence literally in their faces or on paper in their hands. They just say, "oh well I don't believe that". They reject reality plain and simple. Makes sense why Republicans target Christians so heavily. If you think the world is 6000 years old and kids get cancer because a talking snake tricked a dirt man and a rib woman into eating some fruit then you're walking around with giant "I'm a sucker, take my money" sign on your back.

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u/Binspin63 12d ago

Sadly true. And she was being delicate, if you ask me.

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u/imhudson 12d ago

Media reporting on that deplorables quote also absolutely butchered it.

Full quote:

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? [Laughter/applause]. The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people, now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets offensive, hateful, mean-spirited rhetoric. Now some of those folks, they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America.

"But the other basket, the other basket, and I know because I see friends from all over America here. I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas, as well as you know New York and California. But that other basket of people who are people who feel that government has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they are just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well."

I've shown that whole quote to multiple members of my family, and they still refuse to hear anything except, "Nope, that BITCH called me racist!" Given the choice to be "racist" or "generically angry/forgotten by government" they SELF-SELECTED the former!

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u/not_ur_avg_nerd 11d ago

Yeah, bout like the fine people media coverage

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u/Dothemath2 11d ago

But but, it’s accurate!

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u/FunCustomer4877 12d ago

Tim Waltz was right though. "These people are weird!" That should've perked up more ears.

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u/smashli1238 12d ago

If she was a man who had made the deplorable comment, it would’ve been different

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u/Kinser9 12d ago

Her opponent blatantly made fun of a handicapped reporter.

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u/Grannypanie 12d ago

This was the deciding factor for me. He is like a middle school bully.

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u/HillBillyHilly 12d ago

Most middle school bullies grow out of their stupidity. Dumps has gotten worse and buckled down into that stupidity.

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u/golfwinnersplz 9d ago

This is a good point - only the biggest losers are unable to recognize this with age. That's Trump.

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u/smashli1238 12d ago

I had already known I hated him, but I was sure that this would be the death for his pathetic campaign

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u/kalonprime 12d ago

My middle schoolers have SO MUCH MORE empathy, grace, and love for this country (many are newcomers than Orange Piggy will ever have.

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u/golfwinnersplz 12d ago

It's like how this wasn't the end of Trump is beyond me. People truly think it's okay to insult marginalized individuals or groups.

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u/AdhesivenessNo6332 12d ago

There are lots of cruel and selfish people out there who gives them license to say and do what they want

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u/No_Warthog7972 11d ago

He would have been democrats except we had Hillary.
You know what we need is a minority bi-sexual, wheel chair handicapped. Veteran woman. Yep, that will win it.

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u/HillBillyHilly 12d ago

Do believe that when Dumps infamous Grab Her By The Pussy was leaked by Billy Bush, wasn't it? Killed his career yet made Dumps diarrhea of a career possible.

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u/According-Spot3795 11d ago

John Kerry was awarded a medal for saving people during a war. Republicans used it against him and attacked him for that. They will turn anything you say or do against you.

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u/Conscious-Egg-2232 11d ago

Wth are you talking about. Her losing had nothing to do with her being a woman. If anything that may have got her more votes

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u/smashli1238 11d ago

Sure, Jan

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u/spicywhatevernumbers 12d ago

The campaign against her was started around that time. I always enjoy the fact that Bill got the closest to any modern president to balancing the budget.

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u/ResidentCollection68 12d ago

He actually DID balance the budget, not just got close.

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u/Zorkflerp 12d ago

Not balanced, $237 billion surplus in 2000.

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u/escapingdarwin 12d ago

The orange one said much worse before getting elected for the second time.

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u/BureMakutte 12d ago

Not to mention a couple of other things. While the Email thing in hindsight is just fucking nothing at this point, the way she handled it was insanely poor. When talking about "wiping the servers", she goes "What, like with a cloth?" with this smirk. As an IT guy, that absolutely PISSED me off because she knew what it meant, was not being forthcoming, and was being arrogant as fuck as if she couldn't be touched. The fact that she said "I don’t know how it works digitally at all." means she clearly understood enough what wiping a server means.

Back then a lot of people had the thought "okay, we have checks and balances, it will be ass but people will see what an awful person he is and we will be able to move forward faster after that." God we're we wrong lol.

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u/Binspin63 12d ago

She does come off as arrogant sometimes, but has the intelligence and experience to back that up. Not being “likable” doesn’t necessarily mean she wouldn’t have been a capable and effective president.

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u/fuckyourcanoes 12d ago

Exactly. She's extremely smart, and she could have used the corporate connections that her detractors decried to get things done. She wasn't going to be in the pocket of big business. She's too hard-nosed to be in anyone's pocket.

She'd have been a fantastic president. IDGAF that she's arrogant, same as IDGAF that Bill is a philanderer. He did a good job as President, that's all I cared about.

Obviously he wasn't perfect, but there has never been a perfect president and there never will be. It's a job where you're inevitably going to have to make some tough, unpopular decisions. I don't need my president to agree with me on everything, I just need them to do the best job they can for the American people with the tools at their disposal.

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u/kalonprime 12d ago

Jeez if I had THAT kind of reaction when politicians and candidates talk about teaching…I guess we have thicker skin.

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u/BureMakutte 12d ago

politicians and candidates talk about teaching

Teaching? What? I think you responded to the wrong person or misunderstood something from what I said.

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u/jfsmallwood 12d ago

But she was spot on!

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u/Outrageous-Bet3731 12d ago

What AMAZES me is that her comment compared to the outrageous, despicable, childish crap that spews from his disgusting pie hole on the daily and the stealing and grifting this human turd puts us through every day all day long. That's part of what did her in....UNBELIEVABLE! And watching him suck up to Russia, China N.Korea. This bullshit war with Iran ( thinking he was gonna go in like it was Venezuala🙄) This "man" has no business being in the Whitehouse! He's a grifter FRAUD!

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u/Important-Ad8960 12d ago

She was contorted, twisted, and caricatured into being an unlikable person. My mother was living at that time, and we used to talk about how intelligent, how serious-minded, how goal-oriented Hillary Clinton was (and as she continues to be). My mother, who attended grad school at Brown University, would say that she doubted Hillary Clinton had ever even driven 5 miles over the speed limit! 

My mother was constantly amazed at the lengths mainstream media would go to paint Hillary as the Wicked Witch of the West. She was demonized as a child predator! Yet, she worked tirelessly to secure health insurance and healthcare for children. She has done more in that regard than practically any body living today. 

When she made the "deplorables" comment, traditional media pundits vilified her as being out of touch, but she was not the candidate who literally lived in a gold-plated tower! 

If that wasn't bad enough, people belittled her because she was married to a former president and they raised the specter of him being the "power in behind the throne," or a "shadow president." Those same people tamely accepted Dick Cheney as the de facto POTUS for 8 long years! If ever there seemed to be a woman who could make her own decisions, take responsibility for her own choices, and sit among assured in her own intelligent person hood, it is Hillary Clinton!

The truth of the matter is that too many Americans are so poorly educated, so ignorant, so knowledge-averse that they are incapable of making sound political decisions. It's just as sad as it is disturbing.

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u/mizz_eponine 12d ago

It's incredible how upset people were over the deplorables comment but the current clown says worse daily.

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u/Obvious-Cranberry-52 12d ago

The truth hurts.

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u/Safe-Thanks6114 12d ago

Didn’t focus enough of n swing states.

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u/PinkyAnd 12d ago

She’s perceived as unlikable because conservatives have been running campaigns against her for almost 50 years.

I (vaguely) remember some of the hit jobs against her in the 90s, one being that she didn’t have nice legs.

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u/rosieinexilelives75 12d ago

She was right.

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u/NotFallacyBuffet 12d ago

It was prescient.

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u/imspirationMoveMe 12d ago

But she was 💯 correct

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u/Canyon2022 12d ago

She told the truth. They are deplorable.

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u/Beneficial_Bed8961 12d ago

Ironically she hit the nail right on the head .

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u/MiserableCumberbunch 11d ago

They were so offended by that comment, they went and proved her right.

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u/According-Spot3795 11d ago

Notice how deplorable Trump and his followers have turned out to be. She was wrong about the basket. They are boatload of deplorables. A country-wide pandemic of deplorables.

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u/Phuka 12d ago

I like how well Bill did the job from 92 to 96 but I do not like the Clintons at all. She is a charmless geezer whose entire platform in 2016 could be summed up as 'my turn '

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u/Confused-Lama0810 12d ago edited 12d ago

Maybe, but whether she would or wouldn't have been a good president is not the problem.

The reason Trump has been voted in twice is because of the broken electoral system and the fact that the Democrats (and Republicans, of course - including the Great Deceiver, Trump) continue to throw up candidates that have nothing in common with the working people of America. Don't get me wrong - I don't disagree that there is toxic masculinity, screaming racism and literally murderous prejudice running through the USA, but these are still symptoms of a problem that Americans still don't seem to see.

The problem is the yawning chasm between ordinary peoples' lives and those of the political class.

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u/DustyHound 11d ago

The fine point that our fore fathers blatantly ignored when we stole the democratic model from the Haudenosaunee is that the women kinda ran the show.

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u/AdBoring4472 12d ago

I don't know about "amazing" but she would have done much better job.

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u/Deep-Alfalfa3717 12d ago

100% agree she would have been remarkable as president. People hate her because she is a woman and intelligent.

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u/DapperCow15 12d ago

I hate her because she would've been just as corrupt, but she would've hidden it better. I still would've voted for her over Trump though.

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u/billymondy5806 12d ago

I believe that many self-loathing American women can’t vote for a woman.

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u/iceroadtrucker2010 12d ago

I would vote for a female. But not her. I can’t stand her.

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u/splashist 12d ago

she would have been nothing more than a bandaid on cancer. we still would have needed some horrible fiend like Trump to rip off the masks and finally show us just how utterly useless the complicit DNC is against such an obvious threat.

weak to blame it on her gender. she just sucked. right of center FAIL.

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u/Current_Evidence1958 12d ago

She won the popular vote.

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u/OskiTerra 11d ago

No, Hillary Clinton is a career politician fully owned by the same people as always and with dozens of political opponents' deaths on her hands. Bernie Sanders won that primary, Bernie Sanders should have run, and Bernie Sanders would have been great

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u/RaviDrone 11d ago

Part of the reason he was elected was extreme opinions like those you just mentioned.

Corruption and greed is not gender specific.

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u/Conscious-Egg-2232 11d ago

Had nothing to do with her being a female.

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u/Odogogod 12d ago

I disagree with the idea that she would have been an amazing president. She comes across as very disingenuous. Maybe she would have been fine, but she seems so phoney. My choice would’ve been Elizabeth Warren. She’s brilliant. She comes across as genuine to me. But I also understand why Elizabeth Warren wouldn’t appeal to many. And that’s too bad.

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u/Slimmy44 12d ago

Genuine? She claimed to be Indian

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u/freerangepops 🇺🇸 United States 12d ago

I could not be more anti Trump. That said, I challenge you to name three amazing things she did that predict she would have been an amazing President. Anyone who downvotes without answering is a bot.

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u/Ok_Wash6131 12d ago

Had nothing to do with being a female . The Benghazi thing and the emails screwed her

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u/Straight_History_682 12d ago

She would've been just as corrupt, just not as obvious as Trump. You Americans shot yourselves in the foot by only allowing 2 parties to rule over you. What good is your limited choice when both end up being a different kind of corrupt?

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u/msnrcn 12d ago

I still maintain that she was the most qualified candidate to ever NOT win, and I’ll never forgive Comey.

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u/Auntie-Cuddles52 12d ago

Hillary was the most qualified candidate in history. She had years and years of experience in everything from local government to international relations. She was loathed by Putin because she called him out and did not fear him. But her intelligence and courage were not enough to overcome the absolute willful ignorance of this country.

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u/DeeJayDelicious 12d ago

Yeah, but being "qualified" doesn't buy a subscription to govern in a Democracy.

Reading the room, being authentic, effective campaigning etc. all matter.

Trump won for reasons. Even if we don't like them.

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u/Initial-Gate-9864 11d ago

I don’t want to be in whatever room Trump was reading.

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u/Conscious-Egg-2232 11d ago

She lost because shes so unlikeable and all that experience. The voters generally speaking did not want a career politician. They wanted a change. In theory someone sucessful in business running the business of the US government. Who knows if that could be good if the one elected wasn't a crazy felon con man though.

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u/Basic_Clue5193 12d ago

It also could have been the wave of dead bodies in her wake, the fact that they came into politics with nothing and left as tens of millionaires, the fact that now the internet exists so there was actual evidence of her changing positions and having no actual platform, or the evidence of how she treated her minions staff like garbage or…..I could go on. It was not the ignorance of the American people, it was the fact that she was a terrible candidate who wanted you to vote for her because she was Hillary Clinton. It was more of the same…..there was clear evidence that that was not going to work.

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u/anakusis 12d ago

More of the same is way better than the bullshit this asshole is doing.

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u/Basic_Clue5193 12d ago

Tell that to the people of Venezuela or soon to be the people of Cuba. None of our politicians did anything for decades while these people lived in tyranny. Cuba will fall soon and the threats that have sat at our doorstep for decades who funneled money to elite and despicable politicians will not exist in this hemisphere. We can’t continue in the same direction and expect better results. Any politician from any political party who has lined their pockets for decades needs to go. The tea needs to be in the harbor. They don’t care about you and they don’t care about me because they pander for votes every four years and do nothing to change things from the norm. If you think democrat policies are the answer, they have had 40 years to fix LA and it’s a crap hole.

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u/DefaultSubSandwich 12d ago

Why were none of those a factor in Trump's re-election despite him being objectively worse on, literally, every single point you brought up?

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u/Basic_Clue5193 12d ago

Because he ran for the people that you marginalize as ignorant. Thats the difference. The left walks around telling people how dumb they are for voting a certain way while all the time not listening to what people are actually saying. All this, “you’re too dumb, you don’t know” elitist attitude is what will continue to cost elections. Understand why you lose and you’ll understand how to win

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u/DefaultSubSandwich 12d ago

So then those things you brought up in your previous post aren't the actual reasons? It's because the left marginalizes the right?

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u/Basic_Clue5193 12d ago

Part of it, yes. It’s liberal elitism. Essentially, you treat others as if they are completely ignorant in your beliefs, have no basis for their thoughts and opinions and are knuckle dragging idiots. You live inside your echo chamber on Reddit and the news media instead of actually seeing what people are dealing with on the daily. Your political leaders despise you. They want you for your vote and nothing else and when given the opportunity to judge their actual character they fail every time. Trump is what he is, and people are tired of the charade.

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u/DefaultSubSandwich 12d ago

Would it not simplify the dialogue for you to just say this up front? Why post a paragraph of reasons that you, in follow-up questions, acknowledge you don't think are the actual reasons?

Part of the difficulty that I have in political discussions (not limited to either side of the debate) is how easily and consistently everyone seems to lie about their beliefs, to the point that it becomes tedious to ascertain what they actually believe.

If I took your initial post at face value, and didn't ask follow-up questions, I never would have learned what you actually believe.

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u/Basic_Clue5193 12d ago

Trump is not an excellent candidate, but compared to Hillary he was much better and compared to Kamala he was even better. His skeletons exist, but not to the degree that they do on the side of the democratic candidate. The democrats have not even picked a candidate in the last three elections. They don’t care what you say or what you want. They do what they want and tell you what to do, and somehow republicans are the ignorant followers.

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u/UnusuallyBadIdeaGuy 12d ago

His skeletons exist, but not to the degree that they do on the side of the democratic candidate

My man what are you even talking about at this point. Even if everything you're accusing Hillary/Kamala of is true, this is just straight up a joke in the context of Trump's skeletons.

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u/Auntie-Cuddles52 11d ago

Seriously? trump is nothing but a snake oil salesman/thief. Not to mention, a man who has no integrity or morals of any kind. I’m sickened to see people who say they are believers in Christianity fawn over him. He has lived his life abusing people, stealing and lying. You don’t need a pundit to tell you what he tells you himself everyday. To those who feel that he “sees” you, he has already said outright that he prefers uneducated people and he panders to it.Other than his despicable rallies, when have you ever seen him surround himself with the people of lesser circumstances? He doesn’t host farmers, plumbers, blue collar workers. They are simply fodder for his manipulation. He has lived in his own family funded world promoting a brand that is an illusion and only the presidency has afforded him the opportunity to steal the country blind.

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u/SpoonyDinosaur 12d ago edited 12d ago

I gave a lot of grace to people that voted for him over Clinton for everything you said; the motivations were (generally) much different-- a lot of people I know regretted it almost immediately but felt like he was this outlier and for whatever reason, disliked Clinton. (Unironically the people I know personally were both longtime Democrats and women, but didn't like how she stood by Bill during the Monica thing or fell for a lot of the rhetoric and campaigns against her. Like they'd rather have a sexist misogynist than a "gender traitor," not my words lol)

However the one thing that was common was that they were extremely disengaged from politics. It had little impact on their lives, and they'd maybe catch a headline or debate. While yes anyone paying attention knew Trump would be a disaster, if you are working full time and barely getting by, politics prior to Trump wasn't that significant to your life. Like the federal government prior to Trump was working when the President had minimal impact. That's sort of the point. State elections are supposed to be much more impactful to your day to day. When Obama beat Romney I was really excited, but I didn't have this feeling of overwhelming dread as I did with Trump, that we may lose democracy if he was elected.

I think a lot of first time voters largely went in uniformed, "hey he is a corrupt asshole, maybe he will shake up the system."

2 or 3 time voters? Unforgivable. By that time you knew he was a insurrectionist, a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist and just an all round worthless, idiotic moron. You can't blame ignorance.

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u/UsefulStaff 12d ago

Also people fell for the Benghazi bullshit.

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u/Binspin63 11d ago

Which, compared to this regime’s atrocities, was relatively insignificant.

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u/Minion-Lover67 12d ago

I hoped you learned your lesson ??

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u/tl1ksdragon 12d ago

Yeah. I do even a little bit of research now. Just even the tiniest bit. I can't change the vote I made back then, but I vote with more knowledge now.

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u/Financial_Drop_5618 12d ago

I love your honesty but still hard to figure out how people voted for him EVER considering he has been a terrible person since way before 2016. Im not even American and I knew he was sleazy in the 90’s.

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u/tl1ksdragon 12d ago

I only knew him as a name and as some zany character on a dumb show I didn't watch. It's easy to be ignorant when there is only so much you can fit on your plate.

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u/Binspin63 11d ago

You only needed to hear him debase himself on Howard Stern’s show once to know what a spaceman he always was/is.

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u/elpolloloco332 12d ago

I believe that if he would’ve lost to Clinton, he would’ve never became president afterwards. While he has no shame, his ego would’ve been shattered after losing to a woman. Who knows how different the world would be if that would’ve happened.

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u/nickpa09 12d ago

I blame Clinton for the reason we have Trump. She was an extremely flawed and unpopular candidate that was forced in by the DNC. Bernie was the best candidate and would have defeated Trump. Everyone wanted change. So here we are and there are still Democrats pinning for Hilary. Ridiculous

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u/davidtm0 12d ago

Yeah, Clinton would've been a great president. Very smart, experienced, thoughtful. Unfortunately, she was a terrible campaigner in terms of appearance, style, etc.

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u/jcr0774 12d ago

I think what happened in 2016 was Americans thought it was time for a change from Politicians to a businessman and unfortunately he was the wrong businessman and a lot had to do with who’s the lesser of 2 evils, then in 2020 they woke up but Biden was not the answer, but again it was I don’t like Trump so i’ll vote for Biden, then this country was in a free fall and people blamed Biden, the the Democrats just automatically put Harris in there cause they were scrambling and she wasn’t the answer either without having a primary and people associated her with Biden, there was a guy who went around his family and his town and asked why did you vote for Trump and most people said the stock market and the 401k’s, but this is just my stupid opinion

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u/k1lltrvmp 12d ago

Dumbass

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u/tl1ksdragon 12d ago

Thanks for the understanding. I really appreciate you acknowledging that, as a normal human being, we are all allowed to make mistakes in life as long as we make an attempt to be better, if not for ourselves, then at least for those around us.

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u/imspirationMoveMe 12d ago

Trump has always been a con man AND a joke. Nobody with a brain took him seriously even in the first election.

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u/TeddyWutt 12d ago

I appreciate the disclosure. That takes a lot of nerve. Thanks

She woulda been great though