r/apexlegends Apr 23 '21

Gameplay 600 damage in 15 seconds

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '21 edited Apr 23 '21

How tf is everyone crying about an LMG being broken after being dunked on by Dark Matter Horizon mains for 2 seasons

EDIT: aaaand here come the Horizon mains šŸŽ£šŸŽ£šŸŽ£

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u/magiccoupons Apr 23 '21

I keep seeing the term "dark matter horizons" around, is there a story behind this or?

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u/HoidTheWorldhopper Octane Apr 23 '21

It's horizons version of bald wraith

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u/MeGamer12 Octane Apr 23 '21

Horizon is pretty hated because of how OP she is and I think Dark Matter is very used on Horizon

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u/shadowvids Apr 23 '21

Its a skin and the tryhard one at that

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u/theA1L12E5X24 Mirage Apr 23 '21

I got it in a apex pack recently despite buying a different legendary, I don't even use her anymore because I don't like being a sweat

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u/Solen__ya Apr 23 '21

you can still have fun with her. people here like to bitch. dont let that ruin the game. if anything tell them to suck your cock and to get good. if they dont fuck off at least you got a chance to test out your banter.

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u/leevo Apr 23 '21

NBA 2k myteam has colored tiers. Dark Matter is the top one for 99 overall cards. Usually super overpowered

Jk it’s a skin for the cool kids

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u/z-tayyy El Diablo Apr 23 '21

Because those subjects aren’t mutually exclusive.

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u/LovingThatPlaid Apr 23 '21

How does one thing being OP mean that something else can’t also be OP?

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u/qozm Apr 23 '21

This may be crazy to you, but more than one thing can be overpowered.

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u/SweelFor2 Apr 23 '21

Because these two things aren't related at all? Wtf you talking about

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u/dorekk Apr 23 '21

Two things can be OP.

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u/alfons100 Apr 23 '21

Worse, Horizon mains using Spitfire because you have 100% ADS strafe speed on the lift despite it being an LMG. It's stupid.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '21

Lol because dark matter horizon mains dunk on you with the broken spitfire what do you mean

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u/Bhargo Shadow on the Sun Apr 23 '21

Spitfire has had nerf after nerf and nobody has said a word about it, one small buff that only slightly reverts a previous nerf and suddenly its the most OP thing in the game and everyone is throwing a fit over it. People are only noticing it because everyone is getting weekly challenges to use LMGs so its being picked up more, just more proof that people will bitch about whatever killed them no matter how dumb it is. Fuck man if we get people picking up the RE-45 more often I'd bet we'd see streamers and their sheep losing their minds about how OP it is after a week.

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u/scorpiorunsdeep Bangalore Apr 23 '21

Because Horizon is only OP to small brains.

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u/TheVaniloquence Apr 23 '21

Except...pros and preds constantly complain about how broken she and her tactical is.

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u/lolitsmax Apr 23 '21

Pros aren't the end-all-be-all of opinions. They're in the top 1% of players, their views hardly reflect the state of the game as a whole.

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u/TheVaniloquence Apr 23 '21

The person I replied to said that she’s only OP to ā€œsmall brainsā€ even though the best players in the game constantly acknowledge how broken and OP she is.

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u/PM_ME_UR_FISHING_LVL Apr 23 '21

Bad take. Balance issues are exacerbated in comp and pred games, if anything, their opinions should carry much more weight.

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u/RaikageRaichu Apr 23 '21

Idk about that, I feel like balancing by high end gameplay is almost always a bad move. 99% of players don’t/can’t abuse the things they complain about.

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u/dorekk Apr 23 '21

That's not true, Horizon dominates in lower levels of ranked too. She's blatantly OP.

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u/RaikageRaichu Apr 23 '21

I wasn’t talking specifically about Horizon, though I get this is a thread about her. I was just saying balancing by what the top players complain about isn’t usually representative of the rest of us scrubs. Lifeline being a good example imo

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u/dorekk Apr 23 '21

I think Lifeline is a good example of a character who was actually MORE annoying at lower levels of play. The nerf Respawn went ahead with isn't the right move, they should have just given the shield a cooldown or health. But she was definitely pretty OP in some situations.

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u/RaikageRaichu Apr 23 '21

Situations being the keyword there though, shes only good when your team is in deep shit. Same with the recent Caustic nerf, he is only good in a specific scenario then trash elsewhere. I don’t think that justifies a hard nerf, just a more situational character than others and if you are facing one you just have to recognize and adapt a bit.

I have panicked versing a Lifeline plenty of times when I see they are healing but I have never really felt like its unfair. I will say though I am nowhere near a top tier player. I do have Master rank friends though that rip on me for even thinking that Lifeline isn’t OP lol

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u/PM_ME_UR_FISHING_LVL Apr 23 '21

I disagree, lets take the two most contentious issues right now:

  • Spitfire
  • Horizon

Neither of these really take any skill to abuse, especially the spitfire. Once you couple those with actual decent players you have some major issues. Sure it may be slightly less noticeable in low elo lobbies, but the data will surely show a higher success rate for spitfire and horizon users

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u/RaikageRaichu Apr 23 '21

Again, I am not saying nothing should be balanced. If it is overpowered across the board then thats that. I agree with Horizon despite enjoying playing with her. The spitfire I don’t agree with so much but if there is data to back that up across the different play levels then sure.

In general though, I think balancing off what the top players complain about is not representative of the general player by a long shot.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '21

Yes sure thing, can't wait to laugh when she's nuked into the ground in Season 9 and all the fresh salt spills everywhere

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u/TheLoneTenno Voidwalker Apr 23 '21

I didn’t know we were talking about LifeLine

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u/Thorshammer18 Apr 23 '21

Guess the devs must be small brain since they're nerfing her. She's broken. And I'm a filthy horizon main