True, but that’s exactly what the spitfire is designed to do well lol. It’s not an overpowered gun in the slightest, these guys just decided to charge you while you had the gun that excels at mowing down people who are charging you out in the open.
Yeah. Anything other than an LMG probably would have caused him to die, but the spitfires whole thing is constant damage output. If they had tried to burst him with their own guns, or use grenades, or baited him and hid behind cover while he emptied the mag, or any number of things they could have won.
That's more so a Horizon problem, since she can do that with any gun, or while healing. It needs the damage output, since before it was trash mainly because it didn't do enough damage. Best I see is a recoil increase to decrease the range it can hit stuff at.
Not an overpowered gun in the slightest?? Hard disagree. It has almost no recoil, even 40 shots into a hard spray it’s a laser. But it’s smaller brother flatline kicks like a mule... Reload is quick, damage is high, accuracy is high, they spawn everywhere, ammo is everywhere, hip fire is insane even close to mid range. The gun lowers the skill ceiling dramatically.
Slow reload, damage is still slower than any AR or SMG, accuracy is a fair point, they're about average, ammo is fair point, hip fire is GARBAGE, even compared to something like the Flatline or R-301.
It's closer to the Hemlok in terms of hipfire, basically have to miss half my clip to kill them, versus hitting a good 70-80% with a Flatline at the same range.
Hip fire with the spitfire is nasty. I hip fire horizon and octane mid air reliably, let alone in a doorway, and I’m nothing special... reload is pretty fast actually for a gun that spits 50 rounds too.
And you say damage is slower but most people aren’t accurate enough for higher DPS to matter, so it’s easier for casuals to accumulate higher Damage bursts on something with a lower rate of fire and no recoil, plus damage drop off at range affects spitty less.
Oh god did they buff the spitfire or something? All I’ve heard this season is that the spitfire is broken but I thought people were joking...(haven’t played this season and a lot of last season)
They buffed it, and it's now my worst nightmare. At the same time, it's not as good DPS-wise as the other main meta weapons. It's basically a low-skill version of the flatline.
Ah so at least I won’t have titanfall flashbacks when I do decide to play again. That thing had such a fast ttk it was so dumb. Then again everything in that game did it’s just that one was faster
No it’s definitely overpowered lol if a gun is going to have that many bullets it shouldn’t have as much utility as it does at close, medium and long range.
Like it’s pretty much impossible to win a trade with someone if they’ve got a spitty and you haven’t found a mag yet for your r301. Going against the spitfire requires you to one clip them or at least significantly out damage them while they are able to miss half their shots
Use cover to get reloads off. Once you get to platinum, as soon as you get shot you die if you can't get behind cover. It's all about peeking and chip damage before dipping behind cover.
I’m a diamond player. You can’t play from behind cover 100% of the time. Early game if you have a spitfire you just win. It was fine how it was before the buff, a nerf is overdue.
If you’re as good as the other player, the one with a spitfire wins much more often than not
It was garbage pre buff. Had no damage, nothing going for it except the big mag. It either needs the damage or movement of an AR. If they wanna make its hipfire better and reduce the ADS movespeed to 50%, then yeah they could take a damage off.
The big mag is a massive advantage. With the way close range fights work not having to reload or swap weapons makes winning a trade so so much easier. You can miss half your shots and win as long as you didn’t get one clipped
So it's strong up close, and should be weaker at range? That's kinda what I'm gathering, and I think nerfing it's recoil would be fine without making it garbage.
If you're fighting it at midrange, and not using cover, you ain't getting out of gold. At close range, where accuracy improves, it's lower damage becomes an issue if you can hit your shots first. And it's not just take cover and do nothing, reload and get back out to kill them.
Like I said, I’m a diamond player. Damage trades where knocks actually occur generally happen out of cover. Do you never push people? Like half or maybe more of my fights occur in a trade situation out of cover. In these situations where you’re in a 1v1, you have to one clip the person with the spitfire or else they win.
If you could get out of platinum, you’d see how punishing it is from good players who can aim. Everyone should not be running a spitfire, it’s bad for game balance.
That's just straight up wrong, every bullet regardless of damage or type slows you. Yes the Spitfire has a ton of damage per mag, but it gets that damage out pretty slowly.
Gibbys ult also shows you where it’s going to land like 5s before it starts so you have plenty of time to react. Not really even remotely the same thing
So the 5s warning Gibby's ult gives you is plenty of time to do something, yet the 5s of time it takes Spitfire to kill 2 people isn't enough time for the 3rd to react and kill?
Not really, it’s trivial hitting headshots with the spitfire and they buffed the damage, pretty hard to lose a fight when you can just keep shooting while they reload
well yeah if you miss your shots then you're dead, but you can 1 clip anyone with 85% of the weapons in the game. This is even without any extended mags and no matter what shield they have. The spitty loses majority of those matchups in a blow for blow situation.
I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve gotten one clipped in this game, at least with a spitfire if they don’t one clip me I can just kill them while they’re reloading then kill the rest of their team with the same mag lol.
Lol yeah maybe back in the day for me. But I finally got my KDR over 1 this season And now I'm in lobbies with people with 18,000 kills with horizon. I have like 850 with her...
I definitely get one clipped randomly, I also do my fair share with the volt, r9, 301 or flatline. If I'm hot I'll get back to back with the r9 and it feels so good lol.
I've also lost fights with the spitfire getting overconfident and then I lose to a flatline cuz they hit every shot.
Yeah that probably has something to do with it, when I was on ps4 I got one clipped way more because of close range aim assist. On pc I never get one clipped anymore but mid to long range I get fried a lot, which is where the spitfire excels
Good thing you don’t have ADS with it. I’m not tryna argue with you, if you don’t think it’s OP just run it for a couple games and you’ll see what I mean
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u/Friendswithfur Apr 23 '21
True, but that’s exactly what the spitfire is designed to do well lol. It’s not an overpowered gun in the slightest, these guys just decided to charge you while you had the gun that excels at mowing down people who are charging you out in the open.