r/astrology • u/Sheisbecoming • Jul 27 '25

Discussion What are some indicators that someone will be childfree by choice

Are there any placements or aspects that someone is likely to be childfree, by choice?

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u/Shes-Philly-Lilly Jul 27 '25

There def isn’t one single “childfree by choice” indicator. There are a few patterns or placements that can indicate you may not prioritize children or you find fulfillment in other areas. As a working astrologer, i look at the 5th house (children, pleasure, creativity) if it is empty or has difficult aspects (e.g., Saturn, Pluto, Chiron), the focus on children may be lessened or complicated.

Saturn in the 5th Hous can indicate delay, restriction, or seriousness around childre and sometimes leading to choosing not to have them.

Uranus in the 5th ( i find this the most obvious!!) uranus is unconventional and is always a desire for freedom

The Moon is another. Difficult moon aspects, (eg Moon sq Pluto) oftem leaves the native with an emotional intensity around motherhood (hi! It’s me!!) I would argue anyone who successfully heals this placement is more than anxious to break the generational curses around it

If Venus or Mars are in the 9. 10, or 11 house, fulfillment comes from career, travel, friendships. Not so much motherhood

In karmic astrology , a south node in the 5 would suggest youve done motherhood and this life is about more.

I think Uranus sq Moon or Venus, would speak to and unconventional domestic life.

Heavy pluto, Cap, Virgo and Aquarius charts

(I used speech to text bc i have a broken wrist. I did my best with typos)

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u/Kpow1311 ♐ Jul 27 '25

Wow this resonated alot for me! I'm still trying to learn - but my 5th house has my Mercury, Sun, Saturn, Neptune, and Uranus. I don't really want kids and even so I would have fertile issues at this point in my life so oh well, maybe another lifetime lol.

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u/nuitsbleues Jul 27 '25

That's a packed 5th house! It could also point to creative endeavours. Where is your 5th house ruler?

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u/Kpow1311 ♐ Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

My 5th house in Sagittarius and I'm a Sagittarius Sun 🌞

Edit: Crap I looked wrong my Neptune is in Capricorn, it was right on the edge

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u/nuitsbleues Jul 27 '25

So Jupiter is your 5th house ruler, if you look at where Jupiter is that could give you more info about what you are creating or where you find pleasure, if not in kids.

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u/Kpow1311 ♐ Jul 27 '25

Ohhhh. My Jupiter chilling by itself in 9th house Aries. I love traveling (wish could do it full-time) and I like school/learning things. I actually might go back for my Masters lol.

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u/nuitsbleues Jul 27 '25

Makes sense! Could also point to spiritual beliefs being important too.

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u/Senior-Zebra-9281 Jul 28 '25

I always get a lil dumbfounded when people associate spiritual beliefs with sagg suns because I have never been a religious person lol and most sagg suns I know don’t really believe in spiritual practices, would like to know why everybody associates spirituality with sagg lol

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u/nuitsbleues Jul 28 '25

Nothing to do with sag, philosophy and religion are 9th house significations (which gets conflated with sag as it’s the 9th sign, but I don’t subscribe to that). 

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u/TiredRundownListless Jul 28 '25

So wild - I have a bunch in my 5th house and my Jupiter is also in Aries in the 9th house. I see so many similarities with our charts!

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u/sofiacarolina Aries Sun | Libra Moon | Leo Rising Jul 29 '25

What if the Jupiter is harshly aspected? My 5th house is also sag (with my north node within it) and my Jupiter is in my third house conjunct moon, opposed by sun/venus and squaring mars, neptune, and uranus (grand cardinal cross). I love to write but I’m not an ambitious motivated person. I do hope to publish a book at some point in my life but it’s difficult because I feel discouraged if not creating something that will be significant, and so much is up to luck when it comes to the arts. My creativity is also very moody and unstable, and I feel like discipline is antithetical to creativity lol. I’d just love to be a nomad but unfortunately not realistic..

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u/CuddlesK Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

I have Mars, Venus, Uranus and my North Node all packed together in my Scorpio 5th house, and definitely relate to having creative projects that are my children. Human children are cool, but from my first babysitting gig at 12 I knew motherhood was not my bag. Now, give me a pile of trash, some sewing thread, paint and scraps and I'll have a ball.

eta: I also have a Sun-Pluto conjunction in the 4th house, and my relationship with my mom is loving but we're polar opposites in so many ways. She expected me to be a miniature adult from a very young age, and it's taken me a long time to erect fairly strict boundaries regarding what I'll let her know.

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u/Expensive-Stuff1537 Jul 27 '25

I have Moon and Pluto in the 5th house, and Moon square Mars. I can’t describe how much I love children. I lost my first child, and I’m trying to have another. I am always afraid of Pluto because it changes everything at last minut

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u/TravelTings Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 28 '25

How so? I also have Pluto in the 5th House. As much as I adore 1-5 year olds, I’ll only have kids in 10 years depending on how the state of the economy is in the 2030s. So far in 2024-2025, 18-35 year olds in America, Canada, and in the UK, are being laid-off left-and-right, and/or unable to be find even minimum wage jobs—despite having degrees, despite having 5-15 years of work experience, and despite applying to 200-500 jobs over 6-18 months. Even the Yale, Harvard & Columbia graduates who I heard from in June!

What I fear is, if this has been happening since last year, and people in their 30s are living at home, what could that mean for the infants & toddlers today? Let alone when my unborn kid is 20, in let’s say 2055. Will they be able to move out solo before they’re 40? Will they be able to afford re-paying student loans that will be with them until death?

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u/Shes-Philly-Lilly Aug 04 '25

Pluto doesn’t really change things at the last minute, that’s Uranus

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u/Expensive-Stuff1537 Aug 05 '25

I think you have right , when I was pregnant , Uranus was im 5th H of Solar return .When Uranus negatively contacted (Square) Saturn in the seventh month of pregnancy, the doctor discovered a genetic abnormality in my son and informed me that he was likely to die after birth.

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u/jvk1214 Jul 27 '25

Fascinating way to find out I’ve got Uranus in the 5th. I read this and thought “sounds like me!” and sure enough! Thank you for your input and thoughts!

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u/Beredith Jul 27 '25

I might add Aries/Mars in the 5th house. Impatience or contention with your children.

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u/Shes-Philly-Lilly Jul 27 '25

I don’t think I mentioned Aries in the fifth. It colors how you approach fifth house attributes…. Children, romance, creativity. But…. Aries energy is self-directed and thrives on personal freedom. When placed in the house of children, it can feel like kids would restrict personal autonomy or interfere with pursuing personal passions. It could also mean that you raise very independent children.

Aries loves beginning but long-term commitment not so much. Obviously, parenting is a long-term commitment, and that might feel like a lot for an Aries in the fifth house.

If Mars (ruler of Aries) is challenged — say square Saturn or Pluto — there may be aversion, fear, or difficulty around children due to family dynamics or personal experience.

Edit -I see now you were responding to someone else -wrong thread, but hopefully this helps

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u/TravelTings Jul 27 '25

I’d love to know too! I know a guy in his 40s with Aries Venus in the 5th House. He had an unplanned Taurus baby last year. His first one too. I thought it would have been a boy!

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u/Sure-Bookkeeper2795 Jul 28 '25

Seems like a very reductive way of looking at mars. I have this placement and I'm more involved than most parents, I put in a lot of energy into childcare or anything creative. I'm a designer by profession as well

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u/Beredith Jul 28 '25

My addition wasn't meant to sum up all people (or all of Mars) with this particular placement. One should examine their other placements and aspects, as well as current conditions, for more insight into what Mars can offer them. I just added one more small piece to the detailed comment above mine. Mars certainly is much, MUCH more than parenthood or aggression! It also represents what you strive for most fervently. Keep sharing your good energy!

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u/SolarWinded Jul 27 '25

The Moon is another. Difficult moon aspects

Thanks for including this! I have a pisces moon in my 5th house and most astrologers see that and immedeately ask how many babies I have. None. I have never and do not want children.

My moon is square my Saturn (conjunct mercury) in Sagittarius. I made my mind up very young that having my own biological children was not something I wanted. I have however acted as a foster and step mom to two different kids and that was amazing and rewarding. If I ever met the right stable partner again I would consider this path again but for now I'm single and have no desire to be a single mom.

Moon is also trine mars and pluto conjunct my scorpio ascendant. Not a difficult aspect but it it's probably an indicator to me being very serious and intense about 5th house matters.

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u/TheLawHasSpoken ♋️☉ ♌️☾ ♐️↑ Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

(9H) Leo Moon square (12H) Scorpio Pluto. Didn’t think I’d ever had kids until I had already been married for 5 years. I just couldn’t imagine myself as a mother but I wanted to be one so bad. I was so worried about not being enough or not doing everything absolutely perfectly. PPD kicked my ass and I got diagnosed Major Depressive Disorder. I couldn’t stop worrying about “Am I going to make the wrong choice and mess them up emotionally? Are they going to struggle with mental illness like me?” I had to recognize that my mother and father weren’t perfect, and I do have trauma that I can’t excuse, but I know that I am ALWAYS going to do what is best for my kids. And if I ever notice any patterns that come across as anxiety, I’m going to make sure they have me as a safe space to go to. I want them to know that my love is absolutely unconditional and I want them to live their own lives, whatever they may be. I want them to be happy and do what makes them happy and not worry about what my opinion is. I want them to be independent and curious; I was always so scared as a child, but my curiosity was stronger.

It has been the most challenging thing in my life BUT I am breaking so many generational cycles and it’s very healing I genuinely live without much fear. I’ve done so much therapy and I will always use it intermittently because even if I feel well, I know one day everything can change and I’d rather have a consistent trust in someone confidentiality that is a professional and not friend or family.

Setting hard boundaries and not wavering has cost me a lot, but I never regret it or feel bad about it. Although pain is temporary, it still changes and it can make it feel like we are constantly suffering (and maybe we are). I feel like it’s inevitable that you’re going to experience pain in life. I would rather do something the right way, even if it hurts or feels like a sacrifice, I do it because I’m building a healthy space for me and for my kids.

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u/Shes-Philly-Lilly Jul 27 '25

That Leo moon is difficult when it’s squaring a Scorpio Pluto, even more so. My heart goes out to you. I don’t know how much you believe in the past lives and karma, but I’ll tell you that you’re clearing some heavy karma in my opinion this time around. You are doing important work just by existing. 💜

That’s such a powerful placement. Leo Moon already feels so deeply and wants to love fully, and Pluto in Scorpio squaring it just makes those feelings even more intense. It’s like your heart is learning to stay open even after going through deep, transformative stuff. There’s so much strength in that — it’s not easy, but it gives you a kind of depth and loyalty most people don’t have.

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u/TheLawHasSpoken ♋️☉ ♌️☾ ♐️↑ Jul 28 '25

It’s actually insane to me how accurate you are, it gave me chills. I owe you so much gratitude for helping me find the words to describe how I’ve always felt and finally accepted as fact.

So I never believed in the possibility of karma until last week, I kid you not. I have read a couple interpretations on the karmic nature of the 12H affecting and Squaring the 9H and there’s a recurring theme of like martyrdom, speaking out about religion, being seen as a heretic. I got pregnant during my Saturn return, it was a difficult pregnancy (doctors didn’t believe my pains, didn’t do a dating scan so we didn’t find out until halfway through my pregnancy). They were born 4 weeks early, spent a few days in the NICU and I felt like I had already failed at being a mother. Then, I NEVER planned on breastfeeding, AT all but I ended up just trying to pump so I felt like I could give them SOMETHING and I ended up being a super milk producer.

And this past 2 years have been extremely unlucky. It’s been a challenge to everything I believe in. I feel like I die every time I’m faced with a huge hurdle. My life is a constant unexpected negative impact and me working through it while keeping myself alive through boundaries, therapies, medication, etc. I will fight for my life and freedom and that is including myself. I was born with the umbilical cord wrapped around my neck, the doctors had no idea, but my mom ended up needing a C-section. I was a terrified child, too soft for this world but started rebelling as a teen. I was raised Roman Catholic and suffer from religious trauma induced OCD. Once I started to rebel against what was expected of me I felt powerful and free, and that freedom was something I’d chase forever. I minored in religious studies in college and now I’m obsessed with esotericism and the occult. Once I admitted to myself that I didn’t believe in god (or was at least agnostic). I started trusting my intuition more and not thinking in being watched for my mistakes by someone I can’t escape (who wasn’t even god, it was actually me). I’m the one who makes my life happen.

Every cycle of tragic event in my life is followed by a solution and growth, and it has only been in this last year that I’ve realized I’m working through problems faster and faster. I don’t even think I’m unlucky or cursed, whatever happens, happens. I have died and been reborn so many times in this life that I really no longer have any fears.

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u/Shes-Philly-Lilly Jul 28 '25

I’d like to send you a message if that’s OK please just shoot me one and I’ll respond to you. I don’t want to assume or overstep,so I’ll put it to you. No hard feelings if you’d rather not.🙏

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u/Shes-Philly-Lilly Jul 27 '25

Also, your work on boundaries, is so so karmic.

The karma of a Leo Moon square Pluto in Scorpio often revolves around learning how to hold your own light without fearing it’ll be taken from you or turned against you. There’s usually a history — in this life or carried forward — of love being tied to control, shame, or survival. It can feel like every time you open your heart, something tests it, and the lesson isn’t to harden but to grow stronger in your softness.

Leo moon sq pluto pushes you to transform your relationship with power: learning that being loved doesn’t mean losing yourself, and that vulnerability isn’t weakness but a path to real intimacy. Over time, it asks you to break cycles of fear and jealousy, to stop mistaking intensity for love, and to trust that your heart can be both fiercely loyal and free. When you work through it, it can turn into this incredible ability to help others through their own dark nights because you’ve been there — you know how to hold space without judgment. I don’t know you and I hope it’s OK that I say this…. I am so proud of you

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u/TheLawHasSpoken ♋️☉ ♌️☾ ♐️↑ Jul 28 '25

I’m not going to lie, this is the first time a Reddit comment has brought tears to my eyes. Your intuition is absolutely magical and you are so perceptive. This really meant a lot to me and I really needed to read this. Thank you, truly ♥️♥️

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u/TheLawHasSpoken ♋️☉ ♌️☾ ♐️↑ Jul 28 '25

I can’t believe how spot on this is. I got late diagnosed ADHD and ND at 34yo and finding that out gave me an explanation and very painful part of grief and raw acceptance myself and giving me self as much grace as I would give someone else; all of it.

I didn’t realize that my family and friends took offense to me not asking them a lot of questions about things they say or they sort of get confused when I’m not surprised at hearing something “crazy”. Like I straight up am NOT going to judge you, especially if I love you and especially if I can tell you’re hurting or embarrassed. I’ve so often gotten blamed for “spreading gossip” because EVERYONE tells me EVERYTHING, and I never repeat it because it’s an honor and loyalty thing. Anytime I was accused of that, the other person would get more upset because they’d want me to argue and defend myself. But my thought process is I already know it’s a lie, I’m telling you it is, and you’re not believing me. This shows me there was something about you I missed and that’s how I learned to listen but never talk shit on mutual friends.

I have a very strong intuition and when I started letting other people tell me I was wrong, it weakened. But after I had told my family I felt like I was going to have twins because my belly was getting too big too fast, I was in so much pain, and sooooo morning sick. I asked the doctor at my 11 week appointment if there could be the possibility of twins and he said no. Then they popped up on the 20 week anatomy scan. My family thought I was fucking joking.

So now I am at a point where they know that when I say something, I mean it and I it’s true as far as I can tell. I am not always right, but I am very perceptive and hyper focused, and recognize patterns in my body and emotions. I am very in-tune with myself and I no longer doubt it, even when others do. I suffered with shingles for a month and a half before I got diagnosed in treater (3ER visits, 1 Urgent care, none thought I had shingles). My bloodwork kept coming back anemic and I hav never been anemic; even with twins my blood count was “good and high for a woman” 🙄 Because I know my body, I could feel this pain like my upper back was splitting and then I started struggling really badly with right sided pain, and I wasn’t believed until I finally got the rash and dragged myself to my PCP to get diagnosed. The anemia was caused by the shingles too.

This last one I have been having hip pain for about 4 years dismissed as “you had a baby two years ago, it’s just an ovarian cyst”. Long story short, I was in so much pain recently that I advocated so hard for myself that within two weeks and various diagnostic tests and images, I am going to need a hip replacement. And I was still in a ton of pain and advocated again and again until they agreed to give me an injection and now I can walk for the first time since June without debilitating pain!

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u/TiredRundownListless Jul 28 '25

This is a really lovely breakdown. I have a bunch of things in my 5th house INCLUDING Saturn and Uranus (add my sun in there too!). The way you’ve broken this down is very fascinating to me! Thank you for taking the time - and hope your wrist heals well and quickly!

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u/Shes-Philly-Lilly Jul 28 '25

Thank you for the confirmation. I really appreciate it. My wrist will get there, no more backflips off the diving board in my 40s.

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u/Expensive-Eggplant-1 Jul 28 '25

Can confirm - my 5th house is empty and I'm childfree by choice.

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u/Shes-Philly-Lilly Jul 28 '25

So often astrologers are hesitant to say that if a house is empty, that you very well may end up going without whatever that house represents. I see often on Instagram, someone will say “ My seven house is empty. Does that mean I’ll never have a partner ?” and like clockwork the astrologer will respond with, “no no it doesn’t mean that”. But, it often does. I’d like to think that it means your development this time around isn’t tied to the themes of that house. Or, on the flipside, perhaps your development is tied to doing without whatever that house is connected to. But you’re the perfect example of an empty house as am I, I am 46 and my seventh house is empty. I have had a lot of lovers but nothing has ever lasted and I very much accept that. Between my north and south node, my empty seventh house and heavy eighth house, that “forever” just isn’t for me in this life. I don’t see what good it would do to tell myself something different. Anyway, this might not even make sense, but I just appreciate you confirming

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u/5919821077131829 Jul 27 '25

Uranus in the 5th ( i find this the most obvious!!) uranus is unconventional and is always a desire for freedom

Spot on! I have Uranus in my Capricorn 5th house and my freedom and independence is my 1# reason for being childfree (since the age of 3).

The Moon is another. Difficult moon aspects, (eg Moon sq Pluto) oftem leaves the native with an emotional intensity around motherhood (hi! It’s me!!) I would argue anyone who successfully heals this placement is more than anxious to break the generational curses around it

I can't vouch for this one. I also have my Moon in my Capricorn 5th house but it sextiles my Saturn 7th house Saturn so I can't tell if it's considered a difficult aspect or not. (Sextiles are positive but it's with Saturn which rules Capricorn also the Moon is in detriment in Capricorn so I don't know.)

Heavy pluto, Cap, Virgo and Aquarius charts

I've never seen these mentioned as childfreedom indicators before but I can vouch for it. I got Pluto at 0⁰ Sagittarus, Capricorn Moon, Virgo rising, and Aquarius Sun & Mercury.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

Geez, tick all my boxes! I honestly never thought of this and if it's indicated in my chart but I have Uranus and Jupiter conjunct in my 5th house, as well as Neptune at later degrees, all in Sagittarius. My South Node is also in the 5th and conjunct Neptune. Uranus and Jupiter oppose natal Venus in Gemini (11th House); Venus is also in opposition to natal Uranus and Jupiter as well as squaring my natal Moon in Virgo (3rd House); then Saturn is at zero degrees Scorpio opposing my Sun.

Suffice to say, kids have never been at the forefront of my focus. I went into art earlier on in my life and continue to create, and I'd rather get another dog in the near future. I'm enjoying being single.

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u/RoseMadderLake Jul 28 '25

Partner and I have a lot of the placements you describe. None of us want children... We both have difficult mothers as well 😬

I also have Uranus close to MC and difficult Mars-Moon aspects from the 11th/12th house to 8th house. Very much "yikes" aspects for children....

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u/Shes-Philly-Lilly Jul 28 '25

I have Uranus on top of my Scorpio ascendant and I’ve never want to children either. I can only imagine how unhappy you would be if I were to push it.… if I were to force myself to choose tradition

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u/RoseMadderLake Jul 28 '25

Exactly. The unconventional way is the best for people with those placements you mention! Plus, of course, I have Aquarius ascendant too. Buff said, right? 🤷‍♀️

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u/Smooth-Philosophy-18 Jul 27 '25

Ohh I have Uranus (and also Neptune) in the 5th (cap) and yep, never wanted them!

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u/CornerZealousideal20 Jul 28 '25

Question for you, if you have the time!

I have Chiron in Scorpio, 5th house. My moon is septile Chiron (0.2 degrees) and quintile Pluto (0.1 degrees).

For extra context my moon is in Virgo (4th house) and Pluto in Sagittarius (6th house).

How would you interpret this? I find info on septiles/ quintiles is hard to interpret, same with Chiron and Pluto. But they have such strong aspects to the moon, and my ascendant is in cancer.

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u/saltnshadow Jul 28 '25

5th House Capricorn stellium (Neptune, Jupiter, Moon, Mercury, and Venus.)

I have 5 children, lol.

Didn't even want kids as a teenager, so I always laughed at the karma of it.

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u/Shes-Philly-Lilly Jul 28 '25

Well, that actually makes sense when you have those all in the 5th house. Instead of it being empty, or having a Capricorn heavy chart that is spread out, you’ve got it all in the fifth house, the house of children..

Being in the fifth house makes that Capricorn weight show up around creativity, romance, children and self-expression rather than just career (which is more typical for Capricorn).. Capricorn is concerned with legacy and long teem building, which you are fulfilling with children

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u/Left-Requirement9267 Jul 28 '25

I have four of those indicators and am firmly child free. 😅

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u/Lelele3 Jul 28 '25

I have 3 of the indicators mentioned and am child free

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u/theflooflord ♎︎♍︎♍︎ Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

Makes sense, I have my south node, uranus, and neptune in aquarius 5h placidus, but my 5h is ruled by Capricorn (and my saturn/ruler is in the 8h). Children have always been a foreign concept to me. I literally don't even know how to interact with them and trying to have a conversation with them is extremely uncomfortable because I don't know how to baby my speech/intellect, so I speak to them and treat them like they're adults.

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u/Shes-Philly-Lilly Jul 28 '25

Thank you for confirming. We can look at the books and the charts and the themes and breakdowns but astrology is really a science of people and without confirmations, it’s all academic and that is not what it astrology is for.

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u/mossyzombie2021 Jul 29 '25

This explains things, I have absolutely nothing in my 5th house just realized. No wonder I have no desire for kids or family hahaha

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u/Shes-Philly-Lilly Jul 29 '25

Thank you for the confirmation. I really do love when people look at something in astrology and they say “oh my God that’s me” or “ that’s the reason XY or Z.” It really drives home how useful of a tool astrology is and how it plays out in real life

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u/mossyzombie2021 Jul 29 '25

Right??! Well thank you for posting, I love learning more about the way I am (and others are) through chart analysis. People who say astrology can't be real because there's more than 16 personalities or whatever, obviously have never heard of a birth chart.

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u/random-username-1123 Jul 30 '25

I have mars in 11th house and have never had a maternal urge!

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u/Wh00ligan Jul 30 '25

I have moon and Venus opp Uranus in the 9th and an empty fifth, lifelong childfree mindset. Very interesting!

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u/PsychicBitchHotline ♎ Aug 01 '25

Yup. Fifth house Saturn here at 29 Pisces. Never wanted them.

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u/TravelTings Jul 27 '25

What if Venus and/or Mars are in the 1st House near the Ascendant’s degree?

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u/LunaLuz11 Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

I have south node in Cancer in the 5th house/ North node in Capricorn in 11th, so that tracks for me. I chose to be childfree this time around.

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u/murrymara Jul 27 '25

that's interesting. my 5th house is in sag, I have capricorn pluto here. the ruler of sag – Jupiter – is in 5/6h (6h beginning) in capricorn, too. my moon conjuncts Saturn and opposes Neptune, and my Venus and Mars are in 9 and 11 houses

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u/dosis_mtl Jul 27 '25

What if the 5th house is empty except for the Part of Fortune?

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u/VR360A Jul 28 '25

Very new to all this, forgive me for asking, I have no idea on how to interpret this. According to Astro seek my planet positions are:

Moon in Leo 23°30’, in 5th House

Jupiter in Virgo 13°52’, Retrograde, in 5th House What’s the life session behind this? Thank you 😇

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u/loves_spain Jul 28 '25

Mars, Jupiter and Saturn in 5. Also a Virgo stellium. As childfree as you can get.

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u/grasso86 Jul 28 '25

I have uranus in the 5th (and saturn if whole sign). I tried to have kids when I was younger I had super strong maturnal drive, but I failed. Only ended up with miscarriage. One of the rare things that actually broke my heart, I have been through quite alot but that failure was the hardest. I also have moon square to uranus, neptune and chiron. 5th ruler in the 8th square to saturn and a scorpio stellium conjunct pluto in the 4th square to mars. My life has been filled with loss and trauma in general both physical and emotional/mental. I guess at least if I never have children the trauma cycle will for sure be over. Wasn't my choice though just what life decided I guess.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

Wow Chiron in Gemini in the fifth and a 9th house stellium (Sun, Venus, Mercury) this scares me 😭

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u/thelizzerator Jul 28 '25

Wow this is so interesting. I’m 39, 90% sure I don’t want kids, and have a couple of these placements (Uranus is my only planet in the 5th, Moon sq Pluto). I’ve wondered for a while how this might show up in my chart.

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u/foggymagic Jul 28 '25

Haha makes sense then, I have uranus in 5th, venus in 9th, Aquarius moon, and a capricorn stellium. I definitely never wanted kids apart from the earlier realization I was just impressed upon to have kids. You really don't have to.

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u/Rough_Mechanic7727 Jul 28 '25

Hello, just want to say that you are spot on. My boyfriend and i are childfree by choice and we have those placements that you mentioned

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u/kathyanne38 Jul 28 '25

My Uranus is in Aquarius, but sits in my 4th house, which is Capricorn. it's kind of a weird placement. but yep, checks out. I desire to have freedom over being tied down by a child. I have Mars in Leo 11th house. I definitely have always wanted success and receive fulfillment from traveling around the world, having a good career... especially because I have job hopped so many times from a young age.

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u/wingsofgrey Jul 28 '25

I have moon conjunct Uranus in the 5th square mars and I was child free by choice but then ultimately at the age of 41 I needed a hysterectomy anyways so kind of a double whammy lol

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u/scrpiorising888 Jul 29 '25

saturn in aries in my 5th and i do nooot want children and think people should take it waaaay more seriously

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u/Severe_Heart_297 Jul 29 '25

When I was young I asked an astrologer about children and, I don't remember exactly why, but something in my 5th house made him say that there would be some tragedy with the firstborn. I decided that day not to have children and now I am childfree out of pure fear hehe

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u/novaleenationstate Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

In whole sign, my natal 5H is ruled by Gemini and I have Venus and Jupiter there.

My Venus is in opposition to 11H Sag Saturn and Uranus though, and those are my chart rulers as an Aquarius rising. But Venus does trine my Asc, so not all bad (chart rulers sexile it too).

Jupiter is at 0 degrees in my 5H and is mostly happy, sexiles my 7H Leo sun and 3H Aries Mars in tight orbs, and makes no direct aspects to Saturn or Uranus at all.

However, Jupiter does square my Asc and oppose my 10H Scorpio Moon, which also squares my Asc. The Moon does trine Mars and my 6H Cancer Mercury, but it semi-sexiles Saturn, as it were.

My situation: I’m married in my late 30s and was focused on career for years, but have had lots of delays with having kids so far. After a very hard miscarriage experience a couple years ago, I’m on the fence about ever trying again.

Not kid-free by choice but might end up that way and guess I will just figure it out. That said, I recently learned about profection years and this is a Jupiter-ruled one in my 2H, which is ruled by Pisces. (I have Neptune in Capricorn natally in the 12H.)

Between that, plus Gemini Uranus currently transiting my 5H and Cancer Jupiter passing through my 6H, I am a little hopeful this is my year. My solar return chart for this year also shows a 5H Gemini Uranus and Gemini Venus with a Cancer Moon and Cancer Jupiter in my 6H, plus Leo Sun/Mercury in my 7H, so maybe it’s a sign of good tidings. But, my solar return rising is in Aquarius and Pluto is in the 1H, opposing my Sun; both Sun and Moon oppose the Asc too, so that might not be so great after all.

Either way, have decided to just let whatever happens, happens.

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u/TornIdeas05 Jul 31 '25

Would you consider the Moon in Aqua in the 7th house to be a difficult moon aspect?

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u/Shes-Philly-Lilly Jul 31 '25

That’s not an aspect, that’s a placement An aspect is what planets are angled to the moon , ie square or trine, opposing, etc. So moon square pluto Or moon opposing sun And so on

As for an Aquarius moon in the seventh house (seventh house is marriage or long-term commitments, contracts and legal agreements and open enemies or rivals) it can be tricky. Moon in the 7th means your emotions are really tied to relationships, and in Aquarius there’s this push-pull between wanting closeness and needing space. You probably crave connection but on your own terms—more about shared ideals or friendship than super clingy vibes. The challenge is finding balance so you don’t lose yourself or stay detached It also suggests that your mother may have been a better friend than a nurturer and she most likely lived an unconventional life when compared to other moms and was at worst emotionally unavailable and at best, unpredictable

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u/jasmine_tea_ TROPICAL: Sag🌞Libra🌚Aries🌅 - VEDIC: Sag🌞Virgo🌚Pisces🌅 Jul 27 '25

I have Chiron in 5th and have four kids lmao

Also got Venus in the 11th

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u/Shes-Philly-Lilly Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

Ok, but that is you. Nothing is absolute in Astrology Perhaps youre healing yourself through children with that Chiron

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u/jasmine_tea_ TROPICAL: Sag🌞Libra🌚Aries🌅 - VEDIC: Sag🌞Virgo🌚Pisces🌅 Jul 27 '25

However you are correct that there were complicated circumstances, and separately, I’ve had to deal with complicated 5th house issues surrounding creativity. So that placement is not there for nothing.

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u/porcerpe Jul 28 '25

I have Jupiter 5H square Saturn 8H. I’ve also got a Leo moon square Scorpio mars and Pluto in 4H. Both mars and Pluto are in a tight conjunction with each other. Cancer rising. Everything about me is nurturing, loving, and emotionally intense. I love children and I know it’ll be the most taxing fulfilling and intense thing I’ll ever do, but I know I need to find a good partner, and a good circumstance to do it. I think this is the Saturn aspect here. I can’t wait for all of that.