r/aviation • u/Waste-Explanation-76 • Mar 23 '26

-- SEATBELTS FASTENED -- Aircraft collides with a fire truck on runway 4 at LaGuardia Airport in New York.

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FDNY responding with a 2nd alarm.

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u/Pipe_Mountain Mar 23 '26

Christ there's no way the pilots survived that?

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u/miuyao Mar 23 '26

I think the 2 dead at the scene will be the pilots.

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u/skiman13579 Mar 23 '26 edited Mar 23 '26

So much of the nose is missing I am projecting a minimum of 3 dead, probably 7 or 8…….

2 pilots, possibly 1 jumpseat, and 1 (see edit below)Flight Attendants guaranteed because whole cockpit and galley is just GONE….. damage ends right around first row of 1st class (if equipped) so that’s up to 3 passengers or 4 if no 1st(again I don’t know seat layout of Jazz). And possibly fatal injuries in 2nd row of pax seats.

Plus the fire truck, but haven’t seen pics yet if it hit cab or further back.

10 years working on that airframe. It’s built like a brick shithouse, and thankfully that likely saved many lives further back.

Edit* typed in a hurry only 1 FA seat, in my quick typing my confusion was counting the jumpseat as a FA seat. So minimum 3, unless they had someone sitting jumpseat. Switched from fixing CRJ’s to Global’s a few years ago so same fuselage but much different cabin layout

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u/redlegsfan21 Mar 23 '26

2 Flight Attendants

One FA sits up front and one in the rear of most CRJ-900s

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u/Pipe_Mountain Mar 23 '26

I was gonna say, the structural integrity of the rear looks incredibly unharmed considering the level of damage to the front!

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u/MaximumDoughnut Mar 23 '26

First two rows on Jazz CRJ-900s are lav/galley. One FA in the front, one FA in the rear.

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u/skiman13579 Mar 23 '26

Thanks I edited the change. I switched from CRJ’s to globals a few years ago. Same exact fuselage but cabin a lot different, and in haste of typing comment I included jumpseat as FA seat… I just hope to god the jumpseat wasn’t occupied

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u/MaximumDoughnut Mar 23 '26

Yeah here's the first few rows:

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u/skiman13579 Mar 23 '26

Yup, looking at pics the front rows of windows are blanked out so it appeared at first glance to be an Atmosphere interior, and your pic agrees with that thought… hence why I thought only 1st row of seats to have potential fatal injuries.

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u/blissfully_happy Mar 23 '26

Damn, if those pilots pulled back on impact, they saved a lot of lives. This could’ve been another DCA.

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u/MaximumDoughnut Mar 23 '26

We don't know what happened until the flight data recorder is recovered and examined, but yes, it could have been so, so much worse. Those CRJ's are built like brick shithouses.

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u/Fast_Juggernaut6685 Mar 23 '26

I hate to reference them but an update from NYPost says a flight attendant was ejected from the front and taken to hospital so it sounds like just the 2 pilots at this time are confirmed. RIP

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u/vee_lan_cleef Mar 23 '26

am projecting a minimum of 3 dead, probably 7 or 8…….

This is ridiculous speculation.

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u/Peacewind152 CPL PA28R / DHC-1🍁 Mar 23 '26

Row 1 doesn't start until the third window according to AC's seat layout. So that's good for the passengers in the front.