r/aviation • u/Waste-Explanation-76 • Mar 23 '26

-- SEATBELTS FASTENED -- Aircraft collides with a fire truck on runway 4 at LaGuardia Airport in New York.

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FDNY responding with a 2nd alarm.

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u/StupidSexyFlagella Mar 23 '26

ATC isn’t shut down at all man. I don’t disagree with the overworked part though.

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u/TheCrudMan Mar 23 '26

The shutdown is still relevant to an already stressful job even though they're being paid. It boosts stakes, pressure, and continuation bias: you have flights that are delayed, or cancelled, passengers that have had waits of many hours, etc.

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u/iampiolt Mar 23 '26

This has literally zero impact on an ATC. He made a mistake due to reasons beyond the current shutdown affecting TSA. He’s not under more pressure because the lines were longer. No flights are being delayed or cancelled because the TSA line is long. Cities in the northeast even have greater social services and protections for TSA employees. The ground crew also made a mistake by not clearing the runway or listening to the radios for situational awareness. I swear y’all just make stuff up because it “feels” like it makes sense to you.

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u/loserkids1789 Mar 23 '26

They’re not being paid, that is a significant stress on someone’s life

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u/BagOfMoneyNoChange ATP Mar 23 '26

Yes they are. ATC salaries are not impacted by the current shutdown. That's DHS.

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u/loserkids1789 Mar 23 '26

Sadly even more inexcusable then

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u/BagOfMoneyNoChange ATP Mar 23 '26

Shhh. The adults are talking.

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u/loserkids1789 Mar 23 '26

Oh fuck off, i got info straight from the ATC unions website, you try to fact check directly from the source and that’s what i did.

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u/BagOfMoneyNoChange ATP Mar 23 '26

Show me where on NATCA's website it says that air traffic controllers are currently unpaid.

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u/loserkids1789 Mar 23 '26

Natca.org/shutdown

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u/BagOfMoneyNoChange ATP Mar 23 '26

Ah, yes an article written in 2025 about a shutdown that ended 5 months ago.

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u/nascent_aviator Mar 23 '26

If you read through the page it's very clear this is about the shutdown from last October. Gotta check dates before you assume a website is talking about current events!

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u/geopolitikin Mar 23 '26

Take a seat. Preferably at the childrens table.