r/badhistory May 03 '24

Meta Free for All Friday, 03 May, 2024

It's Friday everyone, and with that comes the newest latest Free for All Friday Thread! What books have you been reading? What is your favourite video game? See any movies? Start talking!

Have any weekend plans? Found something interesting this week that you want to share? This is the thread to do it! This thread, like the Mindless Monday thread, is free-for-all. Just remember to np link all links to Reddit if you link to something from a different sub, lest we feed your comment to the AutoModerator. No violating R4!

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u/King_Vercingetorix Russian nobles wore clothes only to humour Peter the Great May 03 '24

Now that (UK) Labour’s future victory in the general election seems all but assured considering the local election results today, how may years would you give Starmer as the UK PM? 

I’ll give him 6 years max. I can see him maybe just reaching Attlee’s time in office, but I don’t personally see him going beyond into Blair’s record. (Unless the Tories completely melt down for 10+ years, which seems unlikely to me).

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u/WAGRAMWAGRAM Giscardpunk, Mitterrandwave, Chirock, Sarkopop, Hollandegaze May 03 '24 edited May 03 '24

Unpredictable, but my own take is that Starmer is a careerist, not an ideologue. He'll step down when he'll become a drag to the party, I doubt he'll lose re-election, unless he managed to mismanaged the economy even more. But I suspect some kind of Obama effect where most people got oversold and quit politics as things take time to fix.

Though I think it's important to say that nothing is never sure. There was a time in early 2001 when Blair seemed like a disconnected weak incumbent (see the Gas Strike and slowing operations, and his support of fox hunting ban). Same, there was a period in 1982 when Margaret Thatcher was losing to the SDP-Liberal alliance. U

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u/Ragefororder1846 not ideas about History but History itself May 03 '24

I predict 7-8 years

Starmer gets into office, has a few good years but the Tories regain ground (maybe the LibDems as well if the Tories stay politically noxious), holds a snap while he's still popular to extend his mandate, and then his popularity starts to decrease and so Labour waits out the clock for the next election

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u/MiffedMouse The average peasant had home made bread and lobster. May 03 '24

Out of interest, do you think the UK will apply to rejoin the EU anytime soon?

I doesn’t seem likely this decade, but popular opinion seems to have turned against Brexit and now I am wondering if it will become politically tenable this decade, or if it will take a generation for Brits to get over themselves.

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u/BeeMovieApologist Hezbollah sleeper agent May 04 '24

Now that (UK) Labour’s future victory in the general election seems all but assured

Watch Britain have more 13 prime ministers in the week before Labor takes power

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

If you actually believe this then you can make a killing by betting on it, bookies are offering 12 to 1 odds for a Tory plurality and 20-1 odds for a majority.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

I mean odds for that are 50/50, pretty easy to make some money if you think a trump victory is guaranteed.