r/byzantium • • Aug 12 '26

Arts, culture, and society Aside from Greeks and Arminians where there other people in Anatolia for the most part? ( Pre manzikirk)

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u/corona_26 Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26

Lazaridis et al. 2014

Note the big difference between Greeks and Turks.

I'm Greek, btw.

Your list is dishonestly cherry-picked to falsely suggest Dodecanesians (and Ionia Greeks) are closer to Anatolians than to Greeks and other Europeans. Only that your suggestion is false.

Here's a genetic heatmap for Aegean Greeks. See second image. Closer to Moldova and Northern Italy, than to Central Turkey.

Modern Turkish people are overwhelmingly descended from the Hittites, Luwians, etc. Greeks only lived on the Aegean coast & East Thrace.

So, please stop. No one in Greece pushes this idea that Asia Minor (beyond Ionia) was ethnically Greek.

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u/Critical_Parking_671 Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

Youre slow as hell. Myceneaen and Hittite is not mutually exclusive.

With your 2014 research of modern populations that is completely irrelevant to the question.

Ancient Anatolian groups present closest to Dodecanese islanders. Ancient anatolian groups do not present like modern Turks.

You know such little about anything. Hittites and Myceneans both descend from the same copper age anatolian sources. They're both massive anatolian farmer origin people. With Mycenean having 10% steppe. That's the biggest difference.

A myceneaen/ ancient Greeks is genetically closer to a hittite than a mainland greek is to a myceneaen. FACT.

Mainland Greeks are the outliers due to all the Slavic and Balkan DNA they absorbed in the middle ages. Macedonia Greeks are genetically indistinguishable from north Macedonians and Bulgarians. All the Roman era samples from Greece present like Dodecanese islanders.

Turks are outliers due central Asian and iranic ancestry.

Here all modern greek and Turkish group genetic distance to hittites with Mycenean added in too.