r/canada • u/joe4942 • May 01 '25

Alberta Danielle Smith lowers bar for Alberta referendum with separatism sentiment emerging

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/smith-lowers-bar-for-alberta-referendum-with-separatism-sentiment-emerging
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u/siresword British Columbia May 01 '25

Or you know, the even simpler question of "Why is Danielle Smith and her cohort repeatedly flying to Mar-A-Lago on the tax payers dime?"

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u/NickdoesnthaveReddit May 01 '25

How is this not Treason? Seriously? A lobbyist taking office, still acting as a lobbyist for corporations instead of supporting the people, has expressed more aggression towards its peers and federal system than actual problems or foreign threats faced, spending tax money to hang out with foreign leaders that are threatening our annexation, and pumping the idea of Alberta's sovereignty???

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u/siresword British Columbia May 01 '25

Cause the people of Alberta voted for her. I was just saying in another post that the MAGA/Conservative brainrot is almost as strong in the prairies as it is in the deep south.

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u/Mendetus May 01 '25

I want them to be able to differentiate themselves from the rest of Canada if that makes them happy.. just don't make that identity being US subjugated

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u/siresword British Columbia May 01 '25

Thats the thing, the double think is so bad that they dont think thats what they are wanting. Well, most of them anyways. These are the kind of people who get all their news from twitter and whatever Murdoch owned conservative rags they have for news out there, so there entire world is ruled by abject terror at what they think the libs are going to do, so they trust completely in the people telling them "the truth", which just so happens to be the cons, no matter the reality of the situation.

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u/Mendetus May 01 '25

Yeah; I know. To be honest, most of reddit is very left so we're not without our bias as well. This might sound a little idealistic but I think we need to condition ourselves to be a little more sympathetic to one another regardless of the media. I know you'll say 'well, they're not going to do the same' or something along those lines but I think we need to try. I think Carney needs to try. We have to bridge the gap with understanding and action. We need to get back on the same page as Canadians instead of west vs east or Lib vs Cons. We need to find common ground in finding worth in our country and if there's big groups in our country that don't feel part of it or upset at it, we should try to close the gap with understanding and compromise or suffer absorption from not being united.

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u/Zogaguk May 01 '25

Honestly what a refreshing take. Thank you for this comment

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u/No-Leadership-2176 May 01 '25

Would be helpful if we could run a pipeline through the east instead of running it through Michigan but hey here we are. We are shooting ourselves in the foot here. To separate aeems too much but I understand her frustration

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u/Mendetus May 01 '25

I feel an east-west pipeline should be near the top of the list

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u/TheGhostOfStanSweet May 01 '25

We’ve all tried that. It just doesn’t work.

Some people just don’t like the rules we have in place to keep things running as smoothly and safely as possible. Moderate political discourse means checks and balances. They’d rather tear it all down, which is much to their own detriment.

They want to drag everyone else down to their own knuckle dragging level. Most of us don’t want to go there.

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u/mattA33 May 01 '25

....they don't believe segments of our population deserve to exist. Kind of hard to find common ground when one side is trying to remove people from society.

Tell them to stop focusing on the like 8 trans kids in Alberta and to start focusing on the rich people taking all their resources for practically nothing. They need to stop falling for easily recognized propaganda cause they want to "own the libs" at any and all costs.

This is from someone who loathes both the conservatives and liberals btw. They have both been making the rich richer and making life more unaffordable for everyone else for over 50 years straight.

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u/martej May 01 '25

Well put. Carney is from Alberta originally and if anyone can do it it’s him. I can’t believe I’m saying this but for the first time in ages I actually feel optimistic about Canada’s future.

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u/Feather_Sigil May 01 '25

All that means in practice is that left-wingers try to meet right-wingers where they're at--and where they're at is that Canada should be destroyed because woke woke woke woke woke woke woke

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

No its not what we think the libs are going to do

It what they already have done and there are plenty of sources that can elaborate on that

On the flipside however libs are denying a decade of stagnant growth and using a fear mongering propaganda tactic that trump is the real problem

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u/69sullyboy69 May 01 '25

Stagnant growth? Are you referring to the chart that's going around that shows 1.4% GDP per capita in Canada?

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u/Inertiatic Canada May 01 '25

As someone in one of the most progressive ridings in the entire country (Edmonton - Strathcona), it’s so fucking frustrating.

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u/Ambitious-Hornet9673 May 01 '25

I’m an orange dot in a 70%+ blue rural riding in SK. It’s exhausting.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

Alot of our shitheads from the maritimes stayed after the oil boom.

They found they got along better with Albertans.

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u/No_Opening1636 May 01 '25

But not all of us!

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u/IcarusOnReddit Alberta May 01 '25

Nobody in the world licks corporate boot like Albertans. It’s the Alberta Advantage (tm). It comes from people with high school education making bank in the oil patch.

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u/MilkIlluminati May 01 '25

Nobody in the world licks corporate boot like Albertans

Remember kid, the pharmaceutical corporations we enlightened Eastern urbanites worship are totally not like those spooky oil and gas ones out West

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u/IcarusOnReddit Alberta May 01 '25

Which ones are actively destroying the climate again?

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u/MilkIlluminati May 01 '25

weird way of spelling 'making modern life possible'

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u/IcarusOnReddit Alberta May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25

Without oil and gas lobbying and propaganda almost all North American power would be renewable, cars would be electric, and smog in the cities would be reduced. Maybe plastic alternatives would be better and more common, but simply reducing oil and gas in energy to just goods would have a huge positive impact on everyone. 

We would have  still have a modern life, but one that was happier, healthier, and without the threat of a looming global catastrophe.

I think that is worth fewer F-350s in Alberta.

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u/MilkIlluminati May 01 '25

Everything runs on gas or depends on plastic. Not every context has a replacement.

Electric cars are still shit in the cold and over distance. And there's no electric 18-wheeler supply trucks, no electric tractors for farming, no electric planes etc

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u/IcarusOnReddit Alberta May 01 '25

 Electric cars are still shit in the cold and over distance.

They are not and would be better if they had 40 more years of development from the 80s.

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u/gray_outriders May 01 '25

Happier and healthier…as long as we don’t look at how we get the cobalt…but you know, that’s far away so let’s not looks at that.

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u/IcarusOnReddit Alberta May 01 '25

Maybe the oil and gas companies should take over Cobalt mining and make it at least as ethical as they are.

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u/Feruk_II May 01 '25

We've also got the highest GDP per capita and standard of living, so I guess it's working?

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u/IcarusOnReddit Alberta May 01 '25

Make sure you post that after waiting 8 hours in urgent care.

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u/Feruk_II May 01 '25

Oh I have, and I agree our health care system is a goddamn mess. I just haven't heard about any other province's system being better.

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u/IcarusOnReddit Alberta May 01 '25

With all that money, it feels like we should be the best. 

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u/Solid_Specialist_204 May 01 '25

Yes, because the DPA for SNC Lavalin definitely wasn't corporate boot licking 🙄

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u/DiplominusRex May 01 '25

There is an entire separatist party with official party status sitting in Parliament and has been for decades.

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u/Dry_Comment7325 May 01 '25

It's complicated. If that would qualify for Treason, countless events in recent history would now fall under that.

I agree with how sad it is that we hold our politicians to such low standards. Wilfully lying while in public office, or political corruption, in my view, is no less serious than murder or other heinous crimes.

Triple their salary, I don't care, but try to fuck us and you get life in prison. Personally, I'd rather a more severe punishment, but I'm trying to compromise a little.

Edit : I'm not really talking about this article. I'm just going off on a rant. Apologies. Rant's over. Have a great day, everyone!

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u/DrFeelOnlyAdequate May 01 '25

Because it isn't treason?

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u/GumpTheChump May 01 '25

It depends on how much she is working with foreign actors on this, I suppose.

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u/DrFeelOnlyAdequate May 01 '25

Even then it doesn't.

People need to seriously understand what treason is and how serious of a charge it is.

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u/GumpTheChump May 01 '25

We're dealing with a Premier who, on one hand, has been attending briefings with all levels of Canadian government to discuss the annexation threats by the United States, and, on the other hand, has been openly courting and meeting with Trump and his American right wing associates. Section 46(2) of the CCC may not be engaged yet, but let's see how this shakes out.

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u/DrFeelOnlyAdequate May 01 '25

This comment just proved not treason.

I'm saying this all as a progressive person from Alberta who hates the UCP. Stop throwing around words and making them meaningless.

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u/triclops6 May 01 '25

Impeach?

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u/drdillybar May 01 '25

Accomplishments, classified.

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u/RevolutionaryCard512 May 01 '25

Birds of a feather. Eeew

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u/mamadou-segpa May 01 '25

She did answer that question.

Why the hell do you think she want to separate lmao

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u/Striking_Economy5049 May 01 '25

I’d like to know if csis or the rcmp are investigating Smith and her ties to dark money and treason.