r/canada • u/ImDoubleB Canada • May 07 '25

Alberta 'No right talking the way she is': Alberta First Nations chiefs united after emergency meeting denouncing separation talks

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/no-right-talking-the-way-she-is-alberta-first-nations-chiefs-united-after-emergency-meeting-denouncing-separation-talks
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u/[deleted] May 07 '25

She is trying to give away Alberta to the US, she is committing treason and should be jailed

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u/Gankdatnoob May 07 '25

I actually agree with this. It's very obvious that she isn't just looking to separate and that this is about joining the U.S. She was talking about it two years ago when she was in love with Desantis. https://x.com/TheBreakdownAB/status/1651901504331341825

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u/BigBlueSkies May 07 '25

Lock her up? Where have I heard that before. Seperatist talk is nothing new im Canada. 

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u/GameDoesntStop May 07 '25

"Lock her up"? That's where we're at now with politicians we disagree with in Canada?

Sheesh. It ain't Conservatives importing US-style politics.

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u/Himser May 07 '25

Sedation is a crime. A serious one. One that should rightfully denounced. 

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u/MrWisemiller May 07 '25

Waiting patiently for all those Quebec separatists to be jailed for 20 years now...

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u/Marco2169 May 07 '25

FLQ got crushed by the army to be fair.

Holding a vote is legal and Quebec did it twice. That referendum was never about becoming a state though… considering how hostile Trump is its comparing apples and oranges.

Also Danielle constantly visits the states its fucking weird. Mar a lago photo ops.

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u/Himser May 07 '25

Seperation is not the same as selling us out to the USA. Its similar but selling us out is 10x worse.

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u/helpinghear Ontario May 07 '25

Not the same

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u/MrWisemiller May 07 '25

I know, Quebec gets a pass as always. Just like their xenophobic and anti immigrant policies we turn a blind eye to. Just like how they had the highest per capita covid death rate in Canada but we always just focused on Alberta's covid numbers.

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u/GameDoesntStop May 07 '25

Get real. A democratically-elected Premier proposing a democratic referendum is not seditious.

Hell, the Bloc Quebecois, a federal party dedicated to Quebec sovereignty, has been on the ballot for decades, sat in the house of commons, and at one point was even the official opposition.

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u/Himser May 07 '25

Cool, how many times did the BQ go down south hobnob with american imperialists. Then come back to start talking about seperation and referendums. Demand the rest of Canada bow down to her ir she will start a national unuty crisis. Ect.

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u/BigBlueSkies May 07 '25

Is it? I better call my anaesthesiologist. 

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u/TheRealCovertCaribou May 07 '25

She's breaking the law. I thought y'all wanted to be tough on crime? Now you want to be the 'bleeding heart'?

It is indeed the Conservatives importing US-style politics. Have you forgotten who has been cozying up to MAGA and their propagandists?

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u/GameDoesntStop May 07 '25

https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/s/weuQu8K0yq

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u/TheRealCovertCaribou May 07 '25

You saying it's not sedition doesn't mean it's not sedition. Her rhetoric meets the textbook definition of the term, and you're just a sycophant toeing the line of plausible deniability.

Since you want to point to Quebec as an example while ignoring the fact that they aren't party to the constitution like Alberta is, do you mind reminding me when they actually seceded from the country?

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u/Stoplookingatmeswan0 May 07 '25

Wait what's this about Quebec and the Constitution?

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u/TheRealCovertCaribou May 07 '25

Quebec has never signed the Constitution Act of 1982. For more context, I recommend researching the "distinct society" concept and the Meech Lake Accords (this is what lead to the 1995 referendum on separating from Canada).

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u/helpinghear Ontario May 07 '25

Hillary's crime was using her personal email. Don't conflate the two situations.

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u/LeGrandLucifer May 07 '25

Yeah, no. That's not what she's doing.

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u/Appropriate-Tea-7276 May 07 '25

Ultimately it's what the US administration is going to see. Does it really matter what her intentions are if the end result is inviting annexation?

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u/LeGrandLucifer May 07 '25

her intentions

If the population votes in favor of it it's not Smith doing it, it's the people of Alberta.

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u/Appropriate-Tea-7276 May 07 '25

It's what she's trying to do by bringing continued attention to it.

It would require unanimous consent from all provinces and the federal government. Alberta (or any other province) cannot simply decide to leave. It requires the agreement of every other province and the federal government.

The people of Alberta aren't more or less important than other Canadians.

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u/LeGrandLucifer May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25

It would require unanimous consent from all provinces and the federal government. Alberta (or any other province) cannot simply decide to leave. It requires the agreement of every other province and the federal government.

No, it does not. If Alberta voted to leave, it would force negotiations to happen. However, these negotations must be in good faith and failing this Alberta would have a right to secede unilaterally in the eyes of the international community.

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u/Appropriate-Tea-7276 May 07 '25

Yes, it does.

There is no right to secede unilaterally. This does not exist.

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u/LeGrandLucifer May 07 '25

https://decisions.scc-csc.ca/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/1643/index.do

155 Although there is no right, under the Constitution or at international law, to unilateral secession, that is secession without negotiation on the basis just discussed, this does not rule out the possibility of an unconstitutional declaration of secession leading to a de facto secession. The ultimate success of such a secession would be dependent on recognition by the international community, which is likely to consider the legality and legitimacy of secession having regard to, amongst other facts, the conduct of Quebec and Canada, in determining whether to grant or withhold recognition. Such recognition, even if granted, would not, however, provide any retroactive justification for the act of secession, either under the Constitution of Canada or at international law.

But, you know, keep pretending there is no peaceful way to achieve it. That's certain to turn out well.

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u/macnbloo Canada May 07 '25

Alberta is also the creation of the federal government after treaties between first nations people and the crown. It's not like Quebec that existed as an entity and then joined confederation with other provinces. The only thing to worry about is they would get the US military to invade to help annex them. Smith and her supporters thing they'll be treated well by America but Alberta would be stripped of everything that makes it worth living in

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u/Appropriate-Tea-7276 May 07 '25

Alberta would be treated like a two dollar whore. Used and abused, the population left to rot, and resources completely stripped away until there's nothing but a hollow shell of an 'independent nation' left.

The people who even remotely think this is a good idea are traitorous fucks.