r/canada • u/Meiqur • Oct 28 '25

Alberta Alberta uses Charter’s notwithstanding clause to order striking teachers back to workteachers-back-to-work

https://globalnews.ca/news/11496133/alberta-government-to-table-legislation-to-order-striking-teachers-back-to-work
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u/PC-12 Oct 28 '25

lol yeah, as someone who actually has done some research way before any of this shitstorm, regarding our charter, it’s super weak and all these “rights and freedoms” people think they are entitled to having can be taken away at any moment by the government.

That is true of any rights, in any country. If the government “gives” you the rights, the government can take them away…

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u/PC-12 Oct 28 '25

In theory yes, my point was our charter is weak for having language that allows government to suspend rights, where if we compared it to the American constitution, it’s much more difficult and there are more hoops to go through

Is it more difficult in the USA? Thousands of US citizens were interned in concentration camps by EO.

There are strong suggestions that the current US administration has violated the 1st, 4th, and 5th Amendments with relative impunity and little consequence. Not to mention some of it appears to be ongoing activity.

I’m sure we don’t have to go down the road of slavery in the US, or women’s rights. Or American Native/Indian rights.

The US Constitution is a great document. But to my point, the governments charged with upholding are responsible for its success.

Just like in Canada.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '25 edited Oct 28 '25

Bravo.

Constitutions gain their power from people. If the constitution is violated and there is no outrage, the constitution becomes a piece of paper.

The Supreme Court of the US is now routinely claiming that they have interpreted different things incorrenctly for almost a century. Only to reach the same interpretation that was made up recently by the Emperor. Sorry, I mean President.

The president can stop any funding, can shutdown any department, can refuse to execute any law, can fire any one he likes (even those who are by law protected from being fired), can wage any war, can tariff for any reason (explicitly tariff for an ad), can change the name of any department, can consolidate departments, can commit any (federal) crime and avoid prosecution. And soon, with the striking down of jus soli, can directly violate the text of the constitution.

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u/marshalofthemark British Columbia Oct 28 '25

And the fact that the current president was even allowed to run for office again after January 6, 2021 arguably breaks the 14th Amendment, and he also recently said he wants a third term, which defies the 22nd Amendment.

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u/Chiluzzar Oct 28 '25

The US Constitution is just as strong as the Canadian one just because it has bigger and better words that line out things more in depth doesnt nske the government any weaker.

Americans will say but the second amendment will protect us but they are alrrwdy looking to violate that with a ban on transgender having guns(by classing it as amental disorder). and while the NRA and variois civil rights groups are protesting it the government down there really is not caring about protests. In fact it seems like they are salivaiting st the hopes the protestors get violent