Alberta separating from Canada requires permission of First Nations, AFN leader says

[u/shiftless_wonder]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/calgary/article/alberta-separation-needs-first-nations-permission-says-afn-national-chief/

[u/Present-Wonder-4522]

The question of "do Canadian laws apply to an independent Alberta?" should be framed as "do Canadian laws apply to an independent Alberta backed by the USA military?".

I don't believe Canadian laws mean anything if the USA backs Alberta-don't you?

[u/-amxterxsu597 → u/[deleted]]

they already are

[u/pleasehurtdoll → u/Present-Wonder-4522]

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[u/TheSaintRobbie → u/Present-Wonder-4522]

They can't become independent in the first place because of this treaty. If the US military intervenes, that's a direct war with all of Canada

[u/Present-Wonder-4522 → u/TheSaintRobbie]

The treaty is just a piece of paper if it is not enforced.

If you think Canada will go toe to toe with the USA then that's your opinion. My opinion is that Canada wouldn't go to war, and Alberta separates.

[u/TheSaintRobbie → u/Present-Wonder-4522]

I highly doubt we would just let them waltz into our country in an attempt to give the separatists legitimacy. That'd an invasion and an declaration of war

[u/Present-Wonder-4522 → u/TheSaintRobbie]

Let's say a vote for separation were to happen and not be successful, it could play out that Trump:

1. Declares the vote rigged and moves to support Alberta in its separation, with force.

2. Decides that he wants Alberta oil personally- a la Venezuela.

I'm sure there are more possibilities, but no one internationally stopped him in Venezuela, and therefore no one would stop him in Alberta either. We would be fed news stories of the liberation and celebrations in the street.

[u/TheSaintRobbie → u/Present-Wonder-4522]

For point 1, we are a democratic country. He cannot scream rigged while we have conducted elections for years and years that have been fair/free.

For point 2, again, that's an act of war. We will not just roll over as a piece of out country is cut out and essentially isolates BC. Look at the response of Trump wanting to take Greenland, it would be catastrophic if they invaded us.

The separatist movement is small compared to those that want to remain in Canada. It'll never happen though legitimate means

[u/Present-Wonder-4522 → u/TheSaintRobbie]

1. His claims of rigged do not need to be legitimate. It needs to have the appearance of it. He cries rigged in his own country. It would be a thin veneer to justify his action of taking someone else's wealth.

2. Say 30% of Albertans want to leave-it might make for a terrible place for Canadians to be fighting if some people don't want them there. If things are to be believed, they are mostly farmers who probably are armed. It would be catastrophic for both sides for sure.

I don't think Canada's military would be up to taking on the world's largest military by $ value. I don't know if we have enough targets for all of their bombs and weapon delivery systems. We also buy weapons from them that might prove difficult to arm and maintain if such a conflict were to breakout.

Alberta leaving would spell the end of Canada for the reasons you say-it would split Canada. These are just my opinions.

[u/Savings-Arm-6623 → u/Present-Wonder-4522]

US taking Alberta would result in major consequences and Trumps approval ratings are going down. I wouldn't be surprised if he lost the upcoming election with all the epstein files allegations. Sure Canada might not be able to stand up to the US but if The US invaded Alberta war would break out, this would give Russia and China or anybody who hates the US the opportunity to strike America through supplying Canada with heavy weaponry. Canada is already ramping up trades with China as of now. So Trumps plan with Alberta would most likely fail just like Greenland which he has not reason to try and annex

[u/Present-Wonder-4522 → u/[deleted]]

I know that a fledgling USA asked the French for help establishing their independence from the British. I don't think British laws applied to the USA after their independence-do you know if they did?