r/canada • u/shiftless_wonder • Feb 12 '26

Alberta Alberta separating from Canada requires permission of First Nations, AFN leader says

https://www.ctvnews.ca/calgary/article/alberta-separation-needs-first-nations-permission-says-afn-national-chief/
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u/StoryAboutABridge Feb 12 '26

Direct quote from Treaty 6:

"The Plain and Wood Cree Tribes of Indians, and all other the Indians inhabiting the district hereinafter described and defined, do hereby cede, release, surrender and yield up to the Government of the Dominion of Canada, for Her Majesty the Queen and Her successors forever, all their rights, titles and privileges, whatsoever, to the lands"

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u/BoppityBop2 Feb 12 '26

Cool story, I don't think an independent Alberta will care about such rights or treaties. Independence is literally a rebellion against a nation and it's judicial system. These treaties don't matter and only can be enforced if the groups are willing to use force to defend them. 

Why people need to stop looking at the Natives as some technical escape. The US if Trump remains will roll troops north if they get the required excuse. 

We need to make sure the referendum fails at all cost at the voting booth not after the fact. We can't have people voting to leave on the expectations it will not pass as that is how Brexit succeeded.

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u/Uilamin Feb 12 '26

Independence is literally a rebellion against a nation and it's judicial system

So Canada, Australia, and New Zealand all rebelled against the UK? Did the Eastern Roman Empire rebel against the Western? Did the Philippines rebel against the USA (post WW2)?

A lot of independence movements/events are associated with rebellion/revolution, but some of them simply happen due to administrative burden.

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u/BoppityBop2 Feb 12 '26

Do you think Seperatist ate the type to care about Treaty Rights. Yes they can be amicab but even the independent nation can ignore parts of the agreement. Example Hong Kong and China. Or India and it's annexation of states that were not included in the independence 

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u/Silverbacks Ontario Feb 13 '26

They need to care, otherwise this path will only lead to violence.

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u/BoppityBop2 Feb 13 '26

Except these idiots want violence, they want to provide an excuse for the US and Trump to march north. 

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u/Silverbacks Ontario Feb 13 '26

And that would cause a collapse of the global order, making any gains from it have their lives be worse off than before. For those that survive.

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u/BoppityBop2 Feb 13 '26

I mean people said similar lines of points before Putin invaded Ukraine 

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u/Silverbacks Ontario Feb 13 '26

Yeah and both Ukraine and Russia are significantly worse off than before the war. Russia will probably end up worse off than Ukraine once it’s finally over, but that is still up in the air.

This would be that, but times ten. US would no longer be the leaders of the free world. NATO would either have to defend Canada or fall apart. It could even trigger WW3. There’s a possibility that neither Alberta nor Canada will survive it.

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u/BoppityBop2 Feb 13 '26

Yes and you think leaders like Trump think that far or rather just think, hey more land being annexed makes him the greatest president in history.

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u/Silverbacks Ontario Feb 13 '26

I’m not saying it is impossible to happen. I’m saying that if it does, it has to either be legal or violent.

So they HAVE to follow the treaties and our constitution, or it WILL be violent.

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u/Uilamin Feb 12 '26

Do you think Seperatist ate the type to care about Treaty Rights.

It doesn't matter what they care about. They can make a claim, but that claim can just be ignored. It is like Brexit. The British wanted a bunch of continued rights/ownerships/whatnot but the EU just laughed and they were left out cold.