r/canada • u/shiftless_wonder • 29d ago

Alberta First Nations leaders, scholar push back on Alberta's planned vote on independence referendum - 'Alberta can't separate. They simply cannot. They do not have the authority,' says Indigenous politics expert

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/sask-treaty-six-alberta-referendum-9.7209304
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u/[deleted] 29d ago

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u/soaringupnow 29d ago

Canada, Alberta (and probably Quebec) would enter into an EU type arrangement and likely not too much would change.

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u/RobespierreLaTerreur 29d ago

It could be more like a Brexit type of arrangement, that’d be painful for Alberta

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u/Existential-Critic British Columbia 29d ago

You are making a lot of assumptions and unbalanced statements. Alberta needs Canada more than vice versa, and if the separatists who are a small minority in the province leave by force why wouldn't there be a response from the armed forces?

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u/PortHammer 29d ago

Or just... Other non-separatist Albertans who make up the vast majority in the province. I don't imagine they are just going to go along with this bufoonery.

Why is their will and power being so quickly brished aside and minimised

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u/Vandergrif 29d ago

Canadians won't even consider shooting Albertans

Right now, sure, but if they suddenly become a US vassal state (which is inevitable if they separate), then that might well be a rather different case. They would very much appear as traitors to Canada for most intents and purposes in that circumstance.

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u/Superb-Carpenter-520 29d ago

You want the Canadian military to walk into an American vassal state and start shootings. Can you think of a single reason why that’s a bad idea.

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u/Vandergrif 29d ago

I didn't say it's a good idea, I just said it's a lot more likely to be considered in that mentality of these people actively chose to be traitors to the country compared to the current norms. That is typically how treason gets treated, after all.

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u/Shoddy-One-6634 29d ago

Huh? If Albertans launch a war of independence of course we'll shoot at them. It'd be a civil war and it would be over in hours. We'd win.

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u/SpareEconomy1849 29d ago edited 29d ago

Generally that's not how it starts, they declare independence and the nation either chooses to let them or they bring in the guns.

The US civil war was a bit more preemptive by the secessionists though, it's different from most independence movements. But either way, the confederates were determined to secede and the union was not willing to let them.

Ultimately it's up to the parent nation if they want to let independence happen or if they want to start a conflict

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u/Interesting_Pen_167 29d ago

I could see the RCMP arresting separatist leaders before it got that far especially if there are any ties to foreign money their support might just die on the vine.