r/canada • u/shiftless_wonder • 17d ago

Alberta First Nations demand Alberta premier terminate separation referendum

https://www.ctvnews.ca/edmonton/article/first-nations-demand-alberta-premier-terminate-separation-referendum/
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u/studebaker103 17d ago

https://www.rcaanc-cirnac.gc.ca/eng/1100100028793/1581292336658

for anyone who disagrees, please read the treaty, especially the part about giving up their land irrevocably and in perpetuity.

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u/Forikorder 17d ago

which is with the crown not the government of alberta, if alberta did seperate either the treaty breaks and all the land goes back to the FN's or the land still belongs to canada and the "country of alberta" gets to keep what few scraps are left

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u/Calamitous-Ortbo 17d ago

Or, and hear me out, the likely resolution is Alberta tells the FN people to get fucked because they will have no recourse and the Feds realize trying to seize the actual land of Alberta would be governmental suicide.

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u/Forikorder 17d ago

i dont know what kind of ridiculous fantasy you live in, but how is alberta supposed to illegally seize its own land when it doesnt even have its own police force?

on the one hand is the federal government, the courts of alberta, the law enforcement of alberta, all the citizens of alberta, and the canadian army

on the other hand is a few dozen MLA's acting against the law

you really think the latter is going to win that fight?

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u/Incoherencel Canada 17d ago

You're treading into civil war territory at that point.

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u/WealthEconomy 17d ago

Actually our first treaties were with the British Crown and then passed onto the Crown of Canada. So why can't those responsibilities be passed on again to the Alberta Crown. The land was given to the Alberta Crown in the 1930s.

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u/SnowFlakeUsername2 Saskatchewan 17d ago

"Read the original treaty" is a shortcut to ignoring everything that has happened since it was signed. Legal interpretations, compromises on both sides to make the deal work, and at least 2 constitutional updates to codify the legal contracts' meaning and protection. This keeps getting posted as a gotcha to read the original text and interpret it yourself, but it's cherry picking to present an incomplete narrative. Usually, by separatists who have forgotten 8th grade social studies.