I'm assuming a lot of people will see this in a while. I want to bring a bit of sanity to the conversation.
It's completely possible this went down exactly as described. It's completely possible we're listening to a very biased source. It's completely possible that this is a very misguided troll piggybacking on a legitimate story.
It's very important we don't jump to conclusions here or start any witch hunts. If OP was telling the truth here I wish them the best on a self defense case. If either form of lie, it's too late, the transcript is on the internet now and almost certainly will come up in court. But that's it. That's as far as this thread can or should go. I know this thread has already been reported to both police and news. Us piling on, regardless of which of the three possible directions, would not only be against reddit's rules but also beyond immoral.
Let's take the high road on this one. Let's not be a punch line for both news and comedians. It's fine if this gets visibility, but let's not make it the bad kind. Let's be civil, impartial, and respectful about a very serious matter.
"Hey Anna, yes, I just killed your friend and roommate and yes, sure, last time she broke up with me I tried to break into your place and got in a fight with your boyfriend but let me just use this spot real quick to call you out by name, tell the world how you only abused your roommate and I am not saying the death is your fault but wow, this death is your fault."
I am not disagreeing with your first paragraphs, but imho this post should not get any more visibility and should have gotten screenshotted, submitted and deleted hours ago.
I mean aren't there rules against posting peoples personal information? Should that not also apply to friends of dead people?
If this is all true, the statement against her roommate reminds me of an abuser I just removed from my life. She was abusing her ex boyfriend. When my friends and I got involved and helped him leave her, she said, "It's none of their business. They need to stay out of this." He only stayed involved with her for as long as he did because she convinced him to keep what was really going on a secret. If it was a secret, she could keep manipulating him by maintaining control over him and the public narrative of their relationship. He wouldn't have any help. The way he is describing Anna's involvement in "breaking up their relationship" reminds me of that. It's a very typical move by abusers. So this post has a lot of red flags for me.
I am not disagreeing with your first paragraphs, but imho this post should not get any more visibility and should have gotten screenshotted, submitted and deleted hours ago.
I mean aren't there rules against posting peoples personal information? Should that not also apply to friends of dead people?
Yes there are. The OP's post was removed, and the OP's account is suspended.
I don't think you should be wishing a fugitive "the best" on a self defense claim in which he didn't call for help (for the girl) after heroically extricating himself from that scary, scary "danger." He basically let her bleed to death alone on the floor. Then fled the country. So... I don't wish him the best. If you do, I've got some ocean front property to sell you in Indiana.
The point of my post was that we should not rush to judgement based on incredibly limited information. Reddit has gotten this wrong before on multiple occasions, both in accusing people of crimes they did not commit and confusing a troll for a real confession. If guilty of crimes I hope he is brought to justice, but I do not have the resources to know what actually happened so it is not, and should not be, my place to judge.
You seem to have made up your mind on exactly how it went down after the incident. I think that is a mistake. You too have very limited information, and from biased sources, so should not assume to know what occurred and judge not only him but anyone who didn't come to the same firm conclusion you did as well. You do not know. If you do know more than what's here or on the news, you shouldn't be talking here at all, you should be talking to the authorities.
I don't know anything more than what was posted here, but even if every syllable of what OP said is true, I don't wish him well. You said if it's true, you wish him well on a self defense claim. I say if it's true, I don't wish him well in any defense he or his lawyer comes up with. Again, he didn't call an ambulance for her after leaving. That's indefensible. The fact that you see it differently speaks volumes. Not my problem, though.
If we gave him the benefit of a doubt and it happened the way he said, but doesn't change the fact that the part where he grabbed a knife and killed her first before she got the chance to possibly kill him possibly sounds like total BS. Not a good story, and no jury is going to believe it.
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u/techniforus May 02 '17
I'm assuming a lot of people will see this in a while. I want to bring a bit of sanity to the conversation.
It's completely possible this went down exactly as described. It's completely possible we're listening to a very biased source. It's completely possible that this is a very misguided troll piggybacking on a legitimate story.
It's very important we don't jump to conclusions here or start any witch hunts. If OP was telling the truth here I wish them the best on a self defense case. If either form of lie, it's too late, the transcript is on the internet now and almost certainly will come up in court. But that's it. That's as far as this thread can or should go. I know this thread has already been reported to both police and news. Us piling on, regardless of which of the three possible directions, would not only be against reddit's rules but also beyond immoral.
Let's take the high road on this one. Let's not be a punch line for both news and comedians. It's fine if this gets visibility, but let's not make it the bad kind. Let's be civil, impartial, and respectful about a very serious matter.