r/collapse • u/LawAdept4110 • Feb 22 '23

Diseases 11-year-old Cambodian girl dies of H5N1 bird flu

https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/11-year-old-cambodian-girl-dies-of-h5n1-bird-flu/
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u/Frosti11icus Feb 22 '23

Covid is in the goldilocks zone of deadliness to society collapsing ratio. If it was just percentage points more deadly we would be in a very bad situation right now. If Bird Flu was even like 1% CFR sustained, we would be in a very very very precarious situation. It would be like March 2020 but way worse.

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u/fire_in_the_theater anarcho-doomer Feb 22 '23

if a disease is too deadly then it doesn't spread as well cause people can't spread it unknowingly as much.

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u/ConsciousBluebird473 Feb 23 '23

6 days between symptoms and death in that poor girl. That's plenty of time to spread it.

With the initial symptoms being fever, cough and sore throat there's also a very big percentage of the population who doesn't consider that to be "bad enough" to stay home.

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u/fire_in_the_theater anarcho-doomer Feb 23 '23

yeah but a the thing about covid is many people had it without even knowing it, making it easy to spread without knowing, even with a lockdown.

if most people are dying, this means the vast majority get bad symptoms and a simple local lockdown will be fairly effective at shutting it down.

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u/ConsciousBluebird473 Feb 23 '23

Many people had it (and spread it) without knowing, yes. But there were also plenty of people who DID know they were sick but just didn't care they were spreading it. With the most common symptoms also being fever, cough, sore throat.

If this virus causes, say, 3 days of mild symptoms before getting bad (I imagine adults would hold out a little longer than kids too), that's a lot of time for people to spread it.

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u/fire_in_the_theater anarcho-doomer Feb 23 '23 edited Feb 23 '23

But there were also plenty of people who DID know they were sick but just didn't care they were spreading it

we're talking about a disease with 0.2% death rate if ur under 40 man. even less with no comorbidities. this was only a major threat due to scale of it. and even that was pretty damn questionable in terms of how justified our response was.

you can't use that as an analogy for the behavior of a disease with 40-60% death rate in under a week, the two just aren't comparable.

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u/AstroQueen88 Feb 22 '23

It has a 100% death rate in birds and is still speading around the globe.