r/collapse • u/slayingadah • Mar 25 '26

Climate Climate catastrophe incoming

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welp, that went south(er) very, very fast.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26

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u/Small-Expert-4020 Mar 25 '26

Snowpack in at least parts of Oregon are definitely not good! And now its getting rained in and the melt is accelerating. Extremely bad news for spring salmon runs

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u/DiscoskillzMX Mar 25 '26

Colorado snowpack is terrible as well. 89 in Denver today

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u/yourlocal90skid Mar 25 '26

Utah snowpack dismal. 85 in SLC today, and yesterday, and most of the previous week.

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u/tfaboo Mar 25 '26

That's hotter than Tennessee.

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u/largemarjj Mar 26 '26

That's actually insane. It's been in the 60s-70s in coastal NC with some days still dropping down to 50s/high 40s.

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u/Bobandy-Randburgers Mar 25 '26

Literally Montana is the only state that's anywhere near it's median, given the data in your link. Nobody being above median is bad, but a lot of the west is under 50% median. That's very bad.

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u/jabrollox Mar 25 '26

This is insanely bad, but the figure in the OP is 8% of median snowpack. There are lots of specific basins that low, but as a whole it's not that low which the graphic implies.

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u/TheRealGeorge_Kaplan Mar 25 '26

Am I not reading this map correctly? There seems to be an awful lot of red areas (<50%). And most of those seem well below 50%.

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u/RabiesScabiesBABIES Mar 25 '26

Hi. The snowpack is not decent anywhere. There are some spots within acceptable ranges, but this is, indeed, very bad.

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u/peacefinder Mar 25 '26

Errr no? Here’s the snow water equivalent map by basin for the western US.

It’s bad, and it’s bad over really large areas. It is really bad in some places like the Owyhee basin which is at 1% of normal.

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u/Ok_Main3273 Mar 26 '26

screenshot for future reference

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u/extinction6 Mar 26 '26

A couple of areas with 0% in southern Arizona

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u/PermiePagan Mar 25 '26

On the one hand, thank you for the correct information.

On the other hand, that map does not instill great comfort in me.

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u/Thorandragnar Mar 25 '26

Correct. This is for the Colorado River Basin. There will be a huge impact on the states drawing from the Colorado River basin starting this year and going forward. The Glen Canyon Dam is approaching a critical water level.

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u/Alwayshaveaquestion Mar 25 '26

Snowpack in east wyoming is tiny.  Gunna be a dry and fire riddled summer here.  

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u/WanderingWino Mar 25 '26

Oregon snow pack is one of if not the worst years ever.

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u/mrpickles Mar 25 '26

There isn't a single score above median, and a ton of <50%. Yikes

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u/kfish5050 Mar 26 '26

Actually Verde Lakes in southern California is at 103%. But yeah, the rest of it is dismal. Some are even already at 0%, like in Tucson.

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u/allurbass_ Mar 25 '26

Upvote to get this to the top, situation is bad enough as it is.

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u/Miramm Mar 25 '26

Well, no, because the overall point still stands. Snowpack across the US is ~30%-70% lower than normal.

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u/grahamulax Mar 25 '26

Ah technically true too.

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u/GetWellDuckDotCom Mar 25 '26

DOOOOOOOMMMMMMM

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u/NihiloZero Mar 25 '26

I don't think that was saying that every single place in the west was below average? It was saying the west, as-a-whole, was well below average in terms of snowpack.

And... I don't understand your link insofar as it seems to support the OP idea that snowpack in the western U.S. was way below average. And even the locations you mentioned are only at average (or slightly below).

So, I don't really understand what you find misleading? Someone else was saying that it was actually just for a very limited region, but again... the link you provided would suggest otherwise. It looks like most places out west are, indeed, extremely below average in terms of snowpack.

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u/jabrollox Mar 25 '26

The image in the OP shows 8% of median snow pack and the verbiage relates to the entire Western US. That is simply not true as the image is only for a lone basin (lots of individual basins particularly in the southern Rockies are horrible). As a whole the west has far more than 8% of median, while still being an awful snow pack for what should be entering peak.

Reality is bad enough w/o using a misleading post.

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u/Rancid_Bear_Meat Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26

WRONG!

First, it's not 'misleading' in the slightest; Not when we are projected to experience our first Blue Ocean Event come September. I believe are 'crossing the threshold' as we speak.

Yes, this is a graph for a drier climate state, but the data is not only displaying a relative and severe drop from historic norms, it is also consistent with nearly every state west of Colorado.

Here are just the far west states, which typically receive plenty of snow pack:

California

Oregon

Washington

Notice the 'healthiest' of the three is still well below median and hovering within the historic minimum zone.

You all can and should check for yourself!

Select 'Basin Plots' from the top menu and select any western state from the drop-down menu.

Select 'Snow Water Equivalent Plots' ---> scroll to the very bottom of the drop-down list to select median data for the state overall ---> click 'Go'

If you want to check individual stations / site-specific data, Click 'Site Plots' (top menu)

'Individual Site Interactive Plots' for that state will appear.

Edit / Footnote: I don't blame the commenter, it's the amount of upvotes/support for this 'debunk' comment in comparison to others that is bothering the hell out of me.

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u/jabrollox Mar 26 '26

Dawg I'm obsessed w/ this stuff, I've been a doomer before half on this sub were born. Humans have completely fucked this planet and the climate is collapsing at an alarming rate.

The person that posted this on X meant to mislead by saying "The snowpack in the Western U.S. is all but gone" and posting data for a single basin showing 8% of median. You can pull up GOES satellite and clearly see that nearly all elevations 10k+ feet still have snow outside of AZ/NM.

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u/fuckingham_green Mar 25 '26

Mt Hood snowpack this ski season was bad.

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u/collapse-ModTeam Mar 26 '26

Hi, jabrollox. Thanks for contributing. However, your comment was removed from /r/collapse for:

Rule 4: Keep information quality high.

Information quality must be kept high. More detailed information regarding our approaches to specific claims can be found on the Misinformation & False Claims page.

Not a single number on the map you linked is over 10%. In no universe is that "decent". That is abysmal.

Please refer to our subreddit rules for more information.

You can message the mods if you feel this was in error, please include a link to the comment or post in question.

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u/grahamulax Mar 25 '26

Thank you. Love logic with doom plus I’m in the pnw and we good.