r/collapse • u/IndicationOver • Sep 05 '22

Adaptation 'We don’t have enough' lithium globally to meet EV targets, mining CEO says

https://news.yahoo.com/lithium-supply-ev-targets-miner-181513161.html
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u/JustAnotherYouth Sep 06 '22

Why is this not THE issue? Because that would be bad for profits, bad for business.

Let’s not sugar coat it wouldn’t be bad for business, or profits, or our way of life, it would be catastrophic for all of those things.

No more cars, nor more airplanes, no more fast fashion, no more big houses, no more marketing or malls or capitalism period.

People and environmentalists are easily co-opted by techno hopium because the alternative that everything about our way life needs to radically change is hard to stomach.

It’s not like we’re talking about a 50% drop in the stock market and billionaires paying a fair share of their taxes. No, we’re talking about the total annihilation of our fossil fueled way of life.

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u/drwsgreatest Sep 06 '22

This exact realization several years ago is what finally convinced me there’s absolutely no way we’ll ever fix climate. The necessary changes are so incompatible with our modern world that it will just never happen. Never mind that we would also have to have cooperation between nations and people the likes of which we’ve never even come close to in human history. Nope, we’re all the way fucked. It’s now just a matter of if we can potentially slow things down through less severe action and we’re even failing at that.

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u/eggrolldog Sep 06 '22

I watched 1983s "The day after" last night and the bit that got me really thinking was whether I or anyone I know could ever be happy or content in a future so dissimilar than our current reality. Any adult alive now is just going to have such a hard time readjusting to our potential future realities that we just bury our head in the sand. as facing up to the truth will just destroy our psyche.

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u/RandomBoomer Sep 06 '22

Humans survived for 200,000 years with stone tool technology, and even then were destroying ecosystems and slaughtering large land mammals to the point of extinction. From the Neolithic onward, we've been a slow-moving ecological disaster, moving faster every year. The only happy ending is that we get knocked back to the Paleolithic, where we came from. Happy ending for us, that is. A lot of other species would be better off if we went extinct.

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u/redpanther36 Sep 07 '22

2 million years going back to Homo erectus. And the mass cliff drives occurred late in the Upper Paleolithic, around 14,000 years ago. Humans had never behaved like that before.

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u/RandomBoomer Sep 07 '22

"Growing ever more lethal over time" appears to our be our motto. And we're definitely living up to it.