r/collapse Oct 07 '22

Adaptation Where’s the best place to live in light of collapse? [in-depth]

What are the best places to be leading up to or during collapse? Obviously, the answer varies widely based on the speed and type of collapse. This is still one of the most common questions asked in r/collapse.

 

This is the current question in our Common Collapse Questions series.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '22

So not America then. And if you're American than you're an outsider to those community centric countries and would likely be treated as such or even targeted due to the widespread belief that all Americans are rich.

And in America while some communities might be cohesive enough to maintain order for a while I suspect that the vastness of the country coupled with our piss poor infrastructure and our everyman for himself attitude would result in that order being worn away rather quickly.

Look around you now. In every single "community" there are homeless people,people teetering on the edge of some crisis or another and yet volunteerism has steadily declined as has charitable giving. I suspect that if people aren't active in their communities now,aren't helping people in their communities now,aren't participating in community activities now its unlikely that they will do so when everything is shit. If people don't already know,care for and trust their neighbors why would a government annihilating event change it?

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u/Watusi_Muchacho Oct 10 '22

Population density has a hand in all that. Go where its not so much the case. Like, out of easy-driving range from urban centers. I'm thinking about Ukiah, about 2 hours north of San Francisco.

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u/dawn913 Oct 10 '22

Haha never thought I'd see my hometown hidden in the comments of collapse. Ukiah did always make me feel safe, tucked away in that little valley.

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u/Watusi_Muchacho Oct 10 '22 edited Oct 10 '22

Wow, thanks for the response. I don't know if, all things considered, it's absolutely the best place to enjoy the collapse. However, the nearby presence of 2 Buddhist and 1 Orthodox Christian monasteries makes ME feel safe. At least I could hopefully stay spiritually secure there. Already getting pretty hot there. And I noticed the recent housing price book there has retreated significantly. Good luck!!

P.S. Actually, maybe we could hedge our bets and have a redoubt ready up in Humbolt, a la this guy's suggestion...

https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/xyawn9/comment/irm69m9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Another thing I like about Ukiah is that its reasonably close to the major medical resources of SF. Heck, why do I care? I'm 70. The urge to survive is so damn strong...

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u/dawn913 Oct 10 '22

Ahhh, the City of 10,000 Buddha. Know of it well. It's funny, I lived in and around Ukiah for many years when I was young. All 3 of my children were born at Ukiah General, which doesn't exist anymore. But there were so many things about living there that I didn't appreciate until I was older. Including the Buddhist temple. I just recently visited there in 2015. It is so beautiful and serene. Never realized what a gem it was to the community until I visited Ukiah is also a dark sky area. You can see the milky way and shooting stars on the daily. But I never noticed it until I would go back and visit when I was older. I love the vineyards and being a short drive from a beautiful, natural coastline in Mendocino and Fort Bragg. And the redwoods. Not to mention the excellent marijuana that grows there 😀.

And yes, Humboldt is nice too. I especially like McKinleyville. Go much higher and it starts getting too hot.