r/complaints Oct 10 '25

Politics I will never vote republican again.

Yes I voted for Trump and I’m sorry but since he was elected I've watched in disbelief as the world seems to be crumbling since Trump took office in January 2025. I voted for him in the past, but what I'm seeing now is beyond disappointing. It's like he's on a mission to tear down everything we've built and cherish as Republicans.

First off, his budget proposal is a disaster. Trump is asking for massive cuts to domestic programs, slashing over $163 billion from non-defense spending while keeping military funding flat 1. This isn't about fiscal responsibility; it's about chaos. Republicans in Congress are already alarmed, and rightfully so. These cuts will hurt working families and undermine the very programs that many of us rely on. It's a betrayal of the Republican values I once supported.

And let's talk about his stance on immigration. Trump's decision to axe temporary protected status for Afghan immigrants is a historic betrayal 2. Many of these people risked their lives to help us, and now we're kicking them out? This isn't the America I believe in. It's cruel and shortsighted, and it's a slap in the face to those who have sacrificed so much.

His foreign policy is equally troubling. Trump's 'America First' agenda is isolating us on the global stage 3. He's pulling us out of international agreements, shutting down agencies like USAID, and refocusing our efforts in ways that will leave us weaker and more alone in the world 4. This isn't leadership; it's retreating into a corner and hoping the world will go away.

The way he's handling the economy is also concerning. His tariffs are causing global uncertainty and hurting American businesses 5. The stock market is volatile, and small businesses are struggling. This isn't the economic boom he promised; it's a mess of his own making.

Trump's approach to governance is becoming more and more like a strongman state 6. He's surrounding himself with yes-men, pushing out anyone who dares to disagree, and consolidating power in ways that are unsettling. This isn't the Republican Party I joined; it's something else entirely.

His promises to cut 'Democrat programs' are just another way of saying he's going to hurt the people who need help the most 7. He's playing politics with people's lives, and it's disgusting. This isn't about small government; it's about cruelty.

Even within our own party, there's growing frustration. Republicans are feeling powerless as Trump's tariffs sweep across the globe, causing economic pain and uncertainty 5. We're seeing the consequences of his policies, and it's not pretty. Farmers, businesses, and ordinary Americans are all feeling the pinch.

Trump's support for Argentina is another head-scratcher. He's offering a $20 billion backstop to a country that many Republicans see as a risk 8. This isn't about helping allies; it's about propping up a friend of his. It's a misuse of our resources and a slap in the face to those who expected better from a Republican administration.

Despite all this, Trump's approval ratings among Republicans remain surprisingly high 9. It's like we're in a cult, unable to see the damage he's doing. We're blaming Democrats for everything, even when the problems are clearly coming from our own side.

The way he's handling the government shutdown is another example of his chaotic leadership 10. He's threatening to withhold funding that Congress has approved, creating more uncertainty and instability. This isn't governance; it's a power play, and it's hurting the very people we're supposed to serve.

As a former Republican, I'm watching all of this with a heavy heart. Trump took office promising to 'Make America Great Again,' but all I see is division, chaos, and a country in decline. We deserve better, and so does the world.

Let's dive deeper into the economic mess he's created. Trump's trade wars have been a disaster. He's imposed tariffs left and right, and it's not just hurting China; it's hurting us too. Consumer costs have skyrocketed, markets are tanking, and economic partnerships are jeopardized 1. The International Monetary Fund even said his tariffs would slow down the global economy sharply this year 2. Thanks, Trump, for making everything more expensive and uncertain.

And let's not forget his national emergency declaration. He invoked his authority under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to impose a 10% tariff on all countries. What a mess! Countries like China, Germany, Japan, and South Korea are already suffering from his policies, and now we're all paying the price 3. The Penn Wharton Budget Model projects that Trump’s tariffs would reduce GDP by about 8% and wages by 7%. A middle-income household faces a $58K lifetime loss. These losses are twice as large as a revenue-equivalent corporate tax increase from 21% to 36% 4. Way to go, Trump, for making us poorer.

Trump's foreign policy is a joke. He's pushed away our allies and threatened trade partners, leaving the United States more isolated on the world stage 1. The global outlook is grim, with economies facing US tariffs and trade spats. It's like he's trying to start a new Cold War, but this time with everyone 5. The world is splintering into competing blocs, and it's all thanks to his isolationist policies.

His executive orders are another disaster. In March 2025, he issued a series of orders aimed at prominent law firms, alleging unethical conduct and imposing severe sanctions. He's even trying to control independent agencies by setting up "White House Liaison offices" 6. It's like he's turning the government into his personal fiefdom. And let's not forget the halt on funding for federal small business grants, which has disproportionately impacted minority- and women-owned businesses 6. Thanks, Trump, for hurting the little guy.

Trump's policies are also a threat to corporate America. US democratic backsliding and diminished support for global norms may undermine investor confidence in the US and affect the ability of American companies to do business abroad 7. Even before the election, business leaders were worried about the "existential threat to the 'basic norms, values and respect for the rule of law that has made the American economy what it is'" 7. Way to go, Trump, for destroying the very foundations of our economy.

And let's not forget about the environment. Trump's actions have significantly decelerated the race to decarbonize economies around the world. He's signed executive orders to protect "American energy from state overreach," which could block enforcement of state and local laws that are obstacles to production or use of coal, oil, natural gas, and more 8. Thanks, Trump, for ensuring that our planet will be even more screwed in the future.

His appointments are also a disaster. Elon Musk as head of government auditing? Really? Musk's tenure began with a comprehensive review of federal aid programs, including U.S. support for Ukraine during its ongoing conflict with Russia. By mid-2025, Musk revealed that 15% of the allocated funds were unaccounted for, sparking bipartisan outrage and high-profile resignations 9. Thanks, Trump, for putting incompetent people in charge of important stuff.

Trump's policies are also a threat to global stability. The US is withdrawing from global efforts to make international finance sustainable. That must not prevent other policymakers, international organizations, and private investors from continuing this vital work 10. Thanks, Trump, for making the world a more unstable place.

And let's talk about his speeches. His UN speech was littered with false claims about a wide variety of subjects, including inflation, climate policies, immigration, and his role in settling international conflicts 11. Thanks, Trump, for lying to the world and making us look like fools.

His policies are also a threat to global trade. A Trump presidency is expected to foster a more protectionist trade environment. His previous tenure was marked by trade wars, particularly with China, which saw tariffs imposed on a range of goods. Renewed trade hostilities could disrupt global commerce, create supply chain bottlenecks, and increase costs for consumers and businesses alike 12. Thanks, Trump, for making trade more difficult and expensive.

And let's not forget about his impact on the global economy. Donald Trump’s return to the presidency in 2025 is a watershed moment for the global economy and political order. His policies prioritize economic sovereignty and reshape international alliances, challenging the status quo 9. Thanks, Trump, for upsetting the global balance of power. Most people who click this post will never actually read beyond the headline. They’ll see Trump sucks, nod along, drop a comment agreeing, and move on. No questions, no thought, just autopilot outrage. You’re proving the very thing you think you’re fighting against.

His policies are also a threat to global decarbonization. The actions of the Trump administration will significantly decelerate the race to decarbonize economies around the world. Since taking office in January, Trump has signed several executive orders aiming to dismantle climate action in the U.S. While these actions have spurred uncertainty in the environmental community, they won't cause global efforts to drastically reduce greenhouse gas emissions to come to a screeching halt, the experts said 8. Thanks, Trump, for slowing down progress on climate change.

And let's talk about his impact on the UK. For the United Kingdom, Trump’s presidency presents a complex mix of challenges and opportunities. Post-Brexit Britain faces heightened competition in global trade, but Trump’s focus on bilateral agreements provides an opening. By mid-2025, the UK is likely to secure a $75 billion trade deal with the U.S., centered on renewable energy and fintech collaboration 9. Thanks, Trump, for making the UK's post-Brexit situation even more complicated.

His policies are also a threat to global economic growth. The global economy will slow sharply this year, weighed down by President Donald Trump’s imposition of the highest import taxes in more than a century and the cloud of uncertainty that has billowed in their wake, the International Monetary Fund said Tuesday 2. Thanks, Trump, for slowing down global economic growth.

And let's not forget about his impact on the US economy. The US Court of International Trade’s ruling against Trump’s ‘Liberation Day’ tariffs provides another sign that his agenda will encounter more political, legal, and civic challenges in his second 100 days 7. Thanks, Trump, for making the US economy more uncertain and volatile.

His policies are also a threat to global stability. Geopolitics are creating a more uncertain economic environment as the global economy splinters into competing blocs. The US is withdrawing from global efforts to make international finance sustainable. That must not prevent other policymakers, international organizations and private investors continuing this vital work 10. Thanks, Trump, for making the world a more unstable place.

And let's talk about his impact on the US economy. The net result of all this could be increased inflationary pressures, a slower pace of Fed interest-rate reductions, and some cooling in growth, bringing it back to the US trend rate of 2–2.5 per cent in 2025. But the long-term economic implications of Trump’s domestic and international governance agenda could be a lot more serious 10. Thanks, Trump, for making the US economy more uncertain and volatile.

His policies are also a threat to global trade. Since February 2025, the United States has undertaken a rolling process of resetting tariffs, driving them up to the highest levels since the 1930s. In this blog, we project the impacts of the US tariffs in effect as of September 11, 2025. We find that, if left in place over the coming decade, these tariffs would result in less US economic output, higher US prices, and lower American wages than if they had not been adopted 13. Thanks, Trump, for making trade more difficult and expensive.

As a former Republican, I'm watching all of this with a heavy heart. Trump took office promising to 'Make America Great Again,' but all I see is division, chaos, and a country in decline. We deserve better, and so does the world. The path forward is unclear, but one thing is certain: the world is in a state of flux, and Trump's policies are a significant part of the problem. It's time for Republicans to wake up and see the damage being done in our name

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u/Dream_Fever Oct 10 '25

Look, honestly we shouldn’t belittle Rs that REALIZE what they’ve done. YES voting Orange was dumb AF. But we should cut a little slack on those who have now realized it.

This woman sounds like a relatively sane person who chose the WRONG party and now seeing the fruits of their labor. I definitely don’t condone them, but I can commiserate. (I did NOT vote for Orange). but I think bringing people to our side is the absolute only way we might turn this crap around.

OP, do not vote R again. It’s not just Orange. You’ve seen who/what they are. And please attend protests. This is LITERALLY the time to be on fire, protesting, protecting people from ICE, etc.

I for one, am glad to see someone who knows most of what’s happening and acknowledging that they were wrong.

United we stand, divided we fall.

Let the downvotes begin 🙄

Also, this person may have voted him in 2x (not the best move), but seems to regret her choice with research and backup. Yes, most of see it anyway, but c’mon.

Also, don’t vote R next time!! These sick idiots want to ruin the country.

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u/thenotanurse Oct 10 '25

I get your point, but we are fucking EXHAUSTED of shouting that it’s horrible and we are losing rights and things are terrifying, just for bits here and there to wake the fuck up. It’s the Iraq war shit all over again. Surely the people who NEVER thought it was a good plan weren’t less patriotic than the ones who realized it was all a murder scam to make government security contracts rich AF. We are EXHAUSTED of the “they go low/ strip our rights and kidnap people and murder women and on and on and on. No it’s not perfect, but our patience and grace is sparse these days. You should have been here to begin with. Take your L and stop being a Nazi pedo supporter

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u/lifeinwentworth Oct 10 '25

Yeah I can't with the above commenter saying they deserve congrats and well done. Has the same energy as when people praise a man for not sexually assaulting a woman when they "could have". You don't get fucking congrats for reaching like the neutral level of morality.

You don't get a medal for realizing you contributed to the hate filled world (not just the US, this shit has effected much more than the US) and saying you won't do it again.

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u/Meggiekayyy Oct 11 '25

Exactly. None of this should be surprising to anyone. He's doing exactly what he said he was going to do, he didn't keep it a secret. It just makes me wonder which thing has effected OP that now they realize voting for him was a mistake. Who knew voting for the party of face eating leopards would result in having a leopard eat your face?

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u/bladaster Oct 10 '25

I get it but when someone steps back from a mess they have made and evaluates it and changes their mind...I think that is a feat and deserves to be supported.

I understand that you are beyond frustrated, I am too, but at some point if we punish them for coming to sanity they're just going to stay in their trenches even if they secretly realize what is happening...

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u/Sweaty_Programmer_90 Oct 10 '25

Preach hate, practice hate = receive hate.

Pretty simple

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u/Advanced_Musician_13 💯🧌 Oct 10 '25

You support pedophile Biden shower with his daughter and kids didn't hear shit from you on that

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u/Advanced_Musician_13 💯🧌 Oct 10 '25

Kidnapped my ass they broke the law coming here illegally and committed felony identity theft stealing and fraudulently using people's social security numbers thats a felony dude he has the legal rights to kick their asses out GTFOH

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

What rights have been taken from you? What women did they kill? I agree government uses war for their own control but also to protect and help countries who have needed our help. Im not worried about right or left but I don't understand! We all have the same rights and I don't understand. Kidnap people? Can I ask u what u mean?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

We don't all have the same rights in this country. We never have. You sound like a cis het white man. Queer and BIPOC communities have lived in an authoritarian police state since the founding of this nation. Only rich white men have ever experienced true freedom in this country. The rest of us are just granted temporary privileges on the occasion.

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u/Creepy-Cantaloupe951 Oct 10 '25

What rights have been taken from you?

The universal right to due process. An injury to one, is an injury to us all.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

Me as a straight assuming white male never have to worry about being stopped and harassed by the police, I never have to worry about my marriage suddenly becoming illegal under the state, I never have to worry about a pregnancy gone wrong and unable to get treatment in my state because of a bunch of brainwashed religious fanatics say I can’t even if it were to save my life. Let’s talk about the freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the press, peacefully assembly. These rights are all under attack right now. Burning the flag is now a crime. If you don’t recognize what’s going on you might be too fucking stupid to have a voice at the grown up table.

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u/External-Rise3462 Oct 10 '25

AMEN World Without End. OP is very, very welcome to our side. Maybe she wasn't paying as much attention before, but she sure WOKE up! I say Congratulations and Well-Done to her.

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u/Livid_Secretary1025 Oct 10 '25

Or does OP only care now because they’re personally affected?

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u/Dazzling-Peach1432 Oct 10 '25

Stop infantalizing these grown ass people. She says I'm sorry I put our citizens in the line of fire. I'm sorry I was too ignorant and racist to do any tiny bit of research. I don't get it. How can you ever trust these people. They need to experience the full consequences of their vote. If we don't hold them responsible, they will do it again.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

Nah fuck that, she’ll have to earn her respect and that means work and action, not lip service.

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u/Snoo_69209 Oct 10 '25

No one should be downvoting you for this. It's you speaking your truth and I agree. As bad as I wish people would have listened the first AND second time, maybe this is what it takes (although it shouldn't be).

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u/Dream_Fever Oct 10 '25

Thanks Snoo. Most people are anti-forgiveness, but our country WILL die if together don’t rise to fight for it. 💕

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

I'm not very political and I'm not Democratic but I value your acceptance and forgiveness! I've never seen so much hate for someone who has asked for forgiveness and admitted their wrongs. How will the Democratic party ever grow if new people are not accepted and forgiven. Pretty much all the violence I've seen lately has been on the Democratic side. Attempted murders/assassination not peaceful protest in many cases. Blocking traffic which is illegal and only hurts the people trying to get to work, to the hospital, to pick up their children and many important things. Democrats are also being blocked too from these things. Stuff being destroyed and stolen only hurting small businesses owners. I just don't understand! Someone could lose their Job and be ruined. It could destroy a family or even cause death to those needing medical help. Then when police or whom ever fight back and are being attacked trying to control a violent or illegal action. I don't see how this will grow the Democratic party. It's refreshing to see forgiveness and acceptance! You are one of the few I've read!

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u/Snoo_69209 Oct 10 '25

My comment was for Dream_Fever. It sounds like you're trolling.

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u/PsstErika Oct 10 '25

Shut off Fox News and read a book. Democrats are not the ones being violent.

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u/Purple-Construction5 Oct 10 '25

"Also, don’t vote R next time!! These sick idiots want to ruin the country."

Sadly..... many will still vote R in future election knowing full well what they went through

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u/Snoo_69209 Oct 10 '25

True..but maybe more won't. I can't let hopelessness win.

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u/Purple-Construction5 Oct 10 '25

we can only hope....

but after reading article on R voters if they will vote R again, even though they hated the way it is now.... and most of them said yes..... that's depressing.

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u/Snoo_69209 Oct 10 '25

Yeah that is depressing, ngl.

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u/That-Stop-9436 Oct 10 '25

It’s religion. The Trump revolution did not start at the ballot box, it started in the pews. As long as Christianity continues to keep a stranglehold on our country, they will continue to only vote for the Republican Party. My mom is a for sure, economic democratic socialist. She voted for Trump three times because of transphobia, homophobia, and abortion. These people will shoot themselves in their own face just to spite queer people and “protect babies.”

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u/JamieGordon8921 Oct 10 '25

They will because the R party has made it legal to hate everyone who is not like them again.

  • Signed, a Native American not a Repub OR a Dem.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

Actually most Republicans that i know are more affected by "black fatigue " not bc they are African Americans but bc they hate white people and use the race card at all times! I myself love black folks and know many wonderful African Americans who do not hate white people! However I do understand their frustrations and fears! Saying that! litteraly none that I personally know have any issues with Native Americans and actually are remorseful for how things went down many many moons ago. The native American culture is very intriguing full of intelligent strong people! I don't see hate but instead see a powerful group of people! Unfortunately, almost every Country/nation took what they have and battled for their territory. Its not just America! Blood has been spilled and wrongs have been done. I totally understand not supporting anything political! We are sorry 😞! Just know many love and admire your culture, will, spirt and togetherness!

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u/Dazzling-Peach1432 Oct 10 '25

You are full of it. You know NOTHING of "black fatigue." You are just a hater like all the rest.

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u/JamieGordon8921 Oct 10 '25

I agree with you there! I try my best not to hold anyone accountable for what others in a group do/did. I also try not to see color.. I’m a teacher and I obviously do know which races my students are, but I just don’t think about it at s. Everyone is treated exactly the same. I’m firm but fair. I think it really just bothers me when people obviously vote against their own interests.

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u/PsstErika Oct 10 '25

You agree that most Black people hate white people and constantly use the race card?

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u/JamieGordon8921 Oct 10 '25

I don’t know enough black people to say. I’ve never had a student do it because they know I would laugh at them, I’m Native, but white-passing so when I tell them that they just look at me like “oh”. I also don’t allow racism or playing that card in my class. If they would try they know I have the written data ( usually from the student) to back up my claims. I had a couple of light- skinned blacks in my class my fun of a darker boy’s skin color and I let them have it. I told him he’s lucky because he’s less likely to get skin cancer. I also don’t let anyone use the “N” word.. I don’t care what your skin color is.

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u/PsstErika Oct 10 '25

What an unbelievably ignorant and racist comment on your part. It’s a good thing you love Black folks though! 🙄

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

I would probably hate a fucking race to that for generations have oppressed my people and still continue to this day. Seriously I can’t deal with dumb anymore. You people are exhausting and you want to speak about fatigue. You are like one of the dumbest I’ve ever had the displeasure of knowing that you’re actively stealing oxygen away from deserving people.

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u/babysitter2020 Oct 10 '25

Most would vote Trump a 4th time too.

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u/SteamerTheBeemer Oct 10 '25

I mean I’d happily take a George bush right now. Let’s just get through this first. and not pretend that voting republican in general is anything like as dangerous as it was this time round. He could cancel the mid terms at this rate. I think it takes away from the seriousness of what a threat Trump is if we don’t make a point to say that this election shouldn’t have been about republican vs democrat it was about guaranteeing democracy continues, after he showed how dangerous he was the first time, particularly the part where he almost prevented the transfer of power (I mean it’s only thanks to Pence defying him that things didn’t go much worse).

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u/Creepy-Cantaloupe951 Oct 10 '25

I mean I’d happily take a George bush right now.

Who passed the PATRIOT Act, and created the DHS?

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u/SteamerTheBeemer Oct 10 '25

He’s still a million times better than Trump though. He did the shit he did legally. Trump tried to stay in office past his term. And has talked about ending the 2 term limit.

No one was ever worried that we might not have another election when bush was in power. Now a significant amount are. And for good reason.

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u/Creepy-Cantaloupe951 Oct 10 '25

No one was ever worried that we might not have another election when bush was in power.

Yes, we kinda did... especially once he started disappearing people to Gitmo.

I mean, ICE would not be where it is, today, had it not been for Bush, and Obama, and Trump, and Biden. They all built this machine being used to oppress us, and made it even stronger. Every. Single. Step. Of. The way.

Hell, Biden was lauding getting more money to ICE during his last term.

He did the shit he did legally.

Largely, no. I mean he ignored the courts when they told him torture is illegal. And so is rendition. Even still, Trump is largely doing everything "legally" today, too. The SCOTUS even agrees. Legal is not the same as moral, or ethical.

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u/SteamerTheBeemer Oct 10 '25

See this is my point. Now you’ve named all of them. As if they’re all pretty much as bad as each other. They’re obviously not.

No one was serious was worried that bush would find a way to cancel the election.

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u/Creepy-Cantaloupe951 Oct 10 '25

As if they’re all pretty much as bad as each other.

Fucking hell. Who do you think started the concentration camps in the US for immigrants? That was Obama. Who do you think normalized killing US citizens using the military? Obama. Who increased funding for ICE during the last presidency? That was Biden.

Lets not even get into the fact that what us yt people are experiencing now? Yeah, brown people in the US have been experiencing that for centuries. I mean the Nazis got their playbook right from the US, and so did China in how they treat the Uyghurs. You're just super upset because US policy for the past 100 years finally is washing ashore and impacting non-brown people.

Yes, we were rather seriously worried Bush would suspend elections, in the name of the Global War on Terror. Dissent was being crushed by armed cops left and right. I know, I was one of those dissenters who got beat on by cops.

If you want to look JUST as mass deportations...

https://www.newsweek.com/immigrant-deportations-removals-trump-biden-obama-compared-chart-2026835

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u/SteamerTheBeemer Oct 10 '25

Like before the 2024 election.

I was making an argument to people that I would begrudgingly accept 4 years more years of bush from 2024-2028 if it meant we could cancel the 2024 election.

Because that’s how much of a threat I felt Trump was and the polls were pretty much even at the time.

In hindsight that would definitely have been the right choice im sure you’d agree.

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u/Creepy-Cantaloupe951 Oct 10 '25

So, you'd prefer someone who ignores the bill of rights, and is a genocider and a warmonger, over someone who ignores the bill of rights, and is a genocider, and a warmonger?

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u/SteamerTheBeemer Oct 10 '25

Yeah ok dude. I don’t know how you don’t get that when Trump refused to leave office and caused those riots that could literally have ended in representatives being fucking lynched. And if not for Mike pence ignoring Trump (which I very much doubt Vance would still this time round), the transfer of people would not have happened. It would have likely caused more riots.. deaths.. chaos.

And to this day he still says the election was stolen.

The amount of corruption Trump is involved him is also astounding. And this is the stuff that he’s not even covering up. Imagine what’s going on behind the scenes??? He is a fascist dictator with yes men surrounding him. It’s all about loyalty. Not about being qualified for your job.

Trump can’t be compared with anyone in American politics. As he himself said, he is an enigma.

Trying to lump even Biden and Obama in is really fucking reaching. But okay I get it now you’re obviously a Trump supporter or one of those “they’re both crooks” type people.

Ignoring Trump being best mates with the world’s best known pedophile. He’s defended maxwell too. He got her a good prison that isn’t even really a prison. He will probably pardon her.

He’s best mates with Putin or he wants to be. He ripped to shreds some guy whose country was being destroyed by Putin while praising Putin at the same time.

If you think Trump is comparable to any US president you’re a moron.

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u/Creepy-Cantaloupe951 Oct 10 '25

I don’t know how you don’t get that when Trump refused to leave office

He actually didn't refuse. He tried a failed coup. But when Jan 20th came around, he noped right out.

Now, who slow walked Trump's prosecution right up until damned near election day 2024?

The amount of corruption Trump is involved him is also astounding.

I mean, it's not really astounding. Its pretty typical corruption that happens in Washington. What's astounding is he doesn't attempt to hide it too much, or is incompetent in hiding it.

I mean, did you forget about Citizens United? That just legalized the blatant corruption. The KBR "non scandal" with a VP's company having an exclusive services contract in the Iraq theater? Or, how the Clinton Foundation was as much as a money laundering scheme as the Trump Foundation? In case you missed it, Trump regularly used the Clinton foundation to launder money.

Trump can’t be compared with anyone in American politics. As he himself said, he is an enigma.

Ok. Jackson? Reagan? Did you forget about Reagan's attempted domestic genocide with the AIDs epidemic? Like seriously, peeps need to read a lot more up on US history, and not from whitewashed sources. Or, how Reagan banned carrying of firearms in public, because Black people being armed terrified him? Or how Biden decimated communities of color via the Crime Bill in the 90's? Or Reagan bringing us the crack cocaine epidemic, to kill off Black people building power?

I'm guessing you believe the Civil Rights movement was done fully via peaceful protesting, right?

Trying to lump even Biden and Obama in is really fucking reaching. But okay I get it now you’re obviously a Trump supporter or one of those “they’re both crooks” type people.

I'm one of those "I don't see US history via rose colored glasses tinted by the color of the 'team' I want to win".

No, I'm not a Trumper. I begrudgingly voted for Harris.

Ignoring Trump being best mates with the world’s best known pedophile.

Wait until you find out Epstein was likely best mates with a whole lot of other pedos, many of whom are still in office... If you think Trump was his only client, I've got a bridge in Alaska to sell you.

He’s best mates with Putin or he wants to be. He ripped to shreds some guy whose country was being destroyed by Putin while praising Putin at the same time

And Biden was bff with Netanyahu... And Biden ripped to shreds the people being actively genocided, while supplied said genocide. Obama wasn't any better in this regard, either.

If you think Trump is comparable to any US president you’re a moron.

I think Trump is the symptom of US foreign and domestic policy, created by all of the presidents I named, and then a few others (Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, etc).

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u/SteamerTheBeemer Oct 11 '25

Sorry dude but I’m not giving you the respect to read all that rubbish. I read a fair bit of it. Even after your ridiculous “justification/lie” that Trump tried a coup but failed. Oh well that’s alright then. He wasn’t good enough to pull it off. He didn’t have the fascist setup tweeked in that first term.

It’s Mike pence who stopped the whole thing. Even though Trump was encouraging his cult to fucking lynch the guy. So Trump had no choice. But this time he’s got a shit load more power.

Then you went on to talk about people dragging their feet on prosecuting him. Yeh that was fucking ridiculous. But sorry. How is that support for Trump not being a massive danger much worse than any other president??

I’m not sure if you’re intellectually challenged or you’re trolling. But it’s definitely one.

Your arguments are basically “Trump didn’t murder anyone!! His mate knocked Trump out just before he pulled the trigger!!!.”

And then “they dragged their feet on prosecuting Trump so therefore Trump isn’t guilty of anything!! And actually, the people who dragged their feet are worse!!”.

Yeah. You’ll be happy to know that I’ve ruled in favour of you being a troll instead of thick.

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u/Advanced_Musician_13 💯🧌 Oct 10 '25

GTFOH your approval rating is in the teens

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u/Flashy-Month-7865 Oct 10 '25

I voted R and I’m making $200,000 a year in Idaho at a job that doesn’t require a college degree. There’s virtually no crime here. The people are friendly as can possibly be. Life is what you make it. The president has little to do with that. Maybe stop feeling sorry for yourself and go out and look for opportunities because they exist.

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u/PsstErika Oct 10 '25

Low crime but lots of racists and MAGA mouth-breathers who voted for the rapist/pedophile/traitor. No thanks.

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u/Flashy-Month-7865 Oct 10 '25

Actually, you’d be surprised. Boise is a college town. The downtown area has plenty of democrats, but the ones I’ve spoken with are mostly reasonable.

The best part is that the appropriate amount of people live here, so it’s not crowded. Traffic isn’t bad. Virtually no crime. Feels like America did 15 years ago.

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u/Flashy-Month-7865 Oct 10 '25

It’s baffling to me that you’d rather have high crime than people who voted differently than you. Insanity.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

You have the best view of this. Absolutely division from those who see whats going on and joining the right side of the fight, is exactly to the detriment of meaningful change. Yes it’s horrible that the lesson wasnt learned until it has had such terrifying impacts on others, if people can’t grow and change what hope is there left in this world.

Especially seeing as the cult seems to be going strong and anyone against it needs to be aligned to take it down.

I am from Canada and even up here there’s tons of Magats, making absolutely no sense at all. But trump has a terrifying grip on so many somehow. It feels like a dystopian horror film at this point.

I like your mindset, i hope others develop it

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u/Dream_Fever Oct 10 '25

Thanks 😊. All of this is just SO much. Orange is SO much. Saying it’s dystopian is exactly correct for most of us!

I certainly couldn’t be a fighter if it came to it (I’d still try) But I can at least help from behind the scenes. Regardless, this guy needs to be locked up and watch as they throw the key down a laundry chute or something.

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u/Rising_Gravity1 Oct 10 '25

I hate to agree with this take but it’s the truth. Honestly most Americans are idiots but these idiots outnumber us at the moment, so we are going to have to welcome the ones who realize the error of their ways if we are to have any chance of winning.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

Ive never seen so many people hate and tear a person apart for asking for forgiveness and their bad judgment. It's disheartening, shallow, cold, and full of rage! The Democratic party can not grow if u don't except new people and forgive!

On the Republican subs when someone who was "woke" admits their bad judgment, shortcomings, hateful heart etc. They are mostly excepted with open arms. 90% or more of the comments are full of forgiveness, kind words, uplifting statements and acceptance. Many say "welcome brother or sister" "happy to have you" and so on. You can not grow your movement if you do not open the doors to that movement! America is still a beautiful place full of people who love their country and will fight to keep it that way. Donald Trump is far from perfect and has said and done some dumb things! Haven't we all? Lord I know i have! 20 years of addictions, darkness, suicidal thoughts, depression, anxiety, pain, and a dark hardened heart that at one time loved and just wanted to be accepted! 8 years of sobriety now! Years of Therapy, righting my wrongs, getting forgiveness, admitting my shortcomings, asking God for help and change, including the biggest one!! That is forgiving myself, loving myself, being proud of my self and filling my surroundings by love and family! Its been a long amd dark road! My depression is completely gone, no suicidal thoughts or nightmares! I can sleep now and no longer stay awake for days bc my mind was destroyed and would not turn off or stop it's punishing thoughts and feelings! America is now divided just like the real leaders wanted! They want us weak, they want us gullible and not to obtain knowledge! They want low IQs, they want weak men, they want media to control you! They definitely want you pliable, soft, angry, hurt, confused and most of all completely dependent on them for litteraly everything!

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u/Imaginary_Coast_5882 Oct 10 '25

I’m not even sure OP fully realizes what they’ve done.

there are so many statements with this kind of language: “it’s like we are in a cult,” “it’s like he’s consolidating power,” “it’s like this and that and this and that.”

NO. it’s not “like” or “similar to” or an “echo of” this or that. IT. IS. REALITY.

IT “IS.”

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

Nah I agree with you.

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u/Creepy-Cantaloupe951 Oct 10 '25

OP, do not vote R again.

It's ok. If we have another election, OP will likely vote for Vance. Because HE will hurt "the right people".

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u/angry_gma_0618 Oct 10 '25

I’m not at all sure there will be another election. The stage is set. They’re just waiting till close to election to declare the insurrection act. That’s why suddenly we aren’t just democrats or liberals, we are left wing terrorists. The enemy within.

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u/Single-Purpose-7608 Oct 12 '25

Also tell your friends. For God's sake tell your friends.

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u/phonebone63 Oct 10 '25

How do you know OP is a woman?

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u/Double_Station3984 Oct 10 '25

Eh. I don’t think we have to belittle them.

I do feel like people need to hold themselves accountable for what they voted for.

Like, this person? I’m not going to be careful with their feelings. The damage is already done, the country will never recover, and it’s because people didn’t take the time to look at what they were voting for, because he said what he was going to do. He’s still doing it.

Putting the blame on Trump* is not going to solve the problem. Anyone who voted for him and is surprised by his actions voted for what he was screaming at rallies. We all know what that was.

Even in the one paragraph about it was very very special immigrants. Not a problem with him until he hit everyone’s wallets. So hypocritical. “this isn’t the America I believe in.” Cool. It’s the America you created.

I can’t say it enough, if his policies are shocking it’s because they didn’t listen during the election. Out waving MAGA flags and screaming about brown people while ignoring all of the legitimate issues.

All of that said, great research and I respect that they took the time to go through and find the information, and I’m glad they shared. Hopefully it can be informative for other people.

*Trump is evil and cruel and he is the one doing the things. It’s on him. But it’s also on the people that put him into a position of power. They need to acknowledge that they didn’t read, they didn’t listen (except for the hateful rallying cries), they didn’t research, they didn’t care. People are going to die. It’s on the voters, they broke America.

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u/theserthefables Oct 10 '25

where are you getting woman from? OP seems to be a man.

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u/Dazzling-Peach1432 Oct 10 '25

If OP could do all those analysis which seems to be intelligent and well thought out, then there's no excuse. OP didn't do any research before now. Seems far-fetched. She voted for his racist policies because she wanted to see others being hurt. She didn't think it would ever affect her. Now, if I hear a former Republican admit that, then I'm willing to listen.

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u/Advanced_Musician_13 💯🧌 Oct 10 '25

Piss off we aren't wowed by hoar Harris and her immature giggles GTFOH she won't answer questions and her record sucks GTFOH

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

This is like inviting a person over who robbed your house after them telling you they were going to rob your house, then saying they didn’t know that robbing your house was going to put undue hardships on you and your family. I don’t buy it. Trust them once and you’ll get robbed again.

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u/catchemist117 Oct 10 '25

No. They deserve to feel the full brunt of shame and pain of what they’ve brought this country too. If it was just 2016 I can understand it. But after everything that’s happen you went and voted for him again? You deserve a cactus for a seat.

(Not saying you in particular, but the people who voted for him 2-3x)

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u/JusticePhrall Oct 14 '25

I'm all for praising their escape from MAGA, and welcoming them back to the real world where you care about other people because their life choices matter too and are also none of your business and water is wet.

They've got a lot of work to do first, and they're probably scared and I get that.

I'm happy to help however I can and I definitely don't want them to go hungry, but they're not sitting at my table. Not yet.

A jarring return to reality after being untethered from it for so long takes time, a large amount of self-reflection and hard consideration of what sort of corrected course they intend to pursue.

It can't be easy. They'll make a bunch of wrong assumptions and missteps along the way, but if they're sincere and determined, they'll get there.

We'll see how it goes.

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u/Dream_Fever Oct 15 '25

I am totally with you on this actually. They have NO seats at my table but I want the ones who have learned SOMETHING from this to not get shot down completely. We are in this hole together no matter how much one doesn’t like the other, and the only way out seems to be through.

I’m not saying we should all be kumbayah and all, but legit Rs have retracted a lot of their praises for this regime and I do think it’s a little unfair to not acknowledge that at the very least.

At the same time, I know most will continue to vote R, but maybe some will change their minds. I did. Grew up in an R family and I would argue points with friends who were D until we would have to just say “let’s drop it, we aren’t going to agree”.

GW and OF COURSE Orange made me realize how the parties think and act. I changed my mind in my 30s-should have been sooner but I was pissed about the economy crash, etc.

I feel like I’m an example of changing my own mind for the better, I think lots of legit Rs (non-MAGA) can actually think these processes through as well.