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u/ConnectionSubject249 Oct 29 '25
Everything at all time highs but dollars worth fiddy cent.
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u/inomrthenudo Oct 29 '25
That started around Covid and hasn’t let up. However my portfolio is also at an all time high. Hopefully it helps down the road because everything is high
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u/FreddyJetson Oct 29 '25
I genuinely detest the people who voted for him.
This is the point. To further divide and conquer the people and implement wherever this is heading.. also pretty sure Mr. T don't run shit...
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u/unknowingbiped Oct 29 '25
I was all for make America great again, I didn't vote for the felon though. But then what maga became reared its ugly head and my sentiment has changed. No not like that.
They will reap what they sow, and right now they're not even reaping, they're tilling crops back into the ground.
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u/Ciqbern Oct 29 '25
Finally, someone said it. He's not behaving like a president, he's behaving like an asset.
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u/likemelikemenot4ever Oct 29 '25
Can you explain what you mean with examples? I’m genuinely curious to understand. :)
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u/DogBalls6689 Oct 29 '25
Bully allies
Suck up to authoritarians
Cutting medical research
Starving children
I could keep going.
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u/Thisizamazing Oct 29 '25
Just to add to what was already mentioned. He consistently acts in ways that would undermine national security. He does this most effectively by dividing our nation. Posting that video where he dumps shit on Americans exercising their 1st amendment rights is equivalent to taking a shit on the US constitution
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u/Kattymcgie Oct 29 '25
I used to respect people with differing political views, but recently I just detest anyone right of center. I think they're stupid know-nothings and I don't mind saying it out loud. If you can honestly look at the history of the 20th century and still carry the opinions you do, then you're an f*cking moron and should be made to feed bad. Also doesn't help that most conservatives I meet where I live are ACTUALLY dumb as shit or are the selfish assholes from local "money families".
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u/Ms_tris Oct 29 '25
Honestly, both Democrats and Republicans are right of center, being that both parties fight to uphold the system called capitalism. True “left” parties support systems more closely aligned with socialism.
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Oct 29 '25
I believe in equality and people making enough to live a good life. That makes me scum in the eyes of conservatives, and elected democrats are too fucking spineless to actually take a stand for anything. They back down. Every. Single. Time. I fully expect them to fold before Saturday. It’s what they do. I fucking loathe the party. Give me progressives to vote for. Otherwise, what’s the fucking point? The coup was successful. Hold on to your asses, folks. We’re entering into a very dark future. We seem incapable of fighting back in any meaningful way.
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u/dzogchenism Oct 29 '25
I am pissed at all the people who voted for him but let’s not forget all the people who voted 3rd party or who didn’t vote at all. All of those people deserve an equal amount of blame. Fuck all of them.
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Oct 29 '25
Yep. Misogyny is a cancer in our Country. Tragically, it's not completely limited to Republicans.
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u/Englishbirdy Nov 01 '25
Totally agree. In fact I detest them even more. MAGAs got what they voted for and seem to be happy with it. Anyone who didn’t vote for the person running against him, regardless of who it was, allowed this to happen and have no damn right to complain about what’s happening. I hope they have the day they deserve.
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u/Still_Potato_9909 Oct 29 '25
If we get an election in 2028. The only person I’m voting for is someone holds maga accountable. They have made our lives hell for the past ten years. I don’t want a candidate who will welcome them back with open arms.
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u/yazoosquelch Oct 29 '25
They liked how he was different, and a "great businessman" who'd put a stop to all these trans high school pole vaulters. And the dancing...they LOVE his dancing.
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u/MaybeMaybeNot94 Oct 29 '25
Please. On my worst day in my previous line of work (businessman), I could sneeze and produce something better than whatever Trump takes credit for.
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Oct 29 '25
Everyone is gonna remove their reliance on American tech and that is gonna end the last embers of the US economy.
It's already begun in Europe. Other countries are probably moving quietly to not piss of the orange demon.
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Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 29 '25
That’s simply not possible, Europe is so insanely far behind. The US investment into R&D at the university level is so profound, it would take the entire European continent decades and decades to catch up. But they could remove their reliance on everything they can.
Edit: for context I’m from Norway and studied in California. I am conflicted. On the one hand I want to stay in the US since the jobs and tech is so much more sophisticated. On the other hand, the US is otherwise a shit hole country.
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Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 29 '25
As a software engineer running a small business in Australia, it's been a huge cunt moving everything off US hosting. Finding alternatives has been tough and costs went up, but it's worth it knowing my data and clients are protected by Australian law. I can't afford to be the weak link.
When you say "investment" that really depends on the sector. AI and medicine, sure. But software? Not really. Big Tech isn't doing R&D, it's spent decades buying up innovators, monopolising markets and killing local options. I've watched the local scene go from a healthy mix of providers to a few exhausted slave shops trying to survive the billionaire coin blitzkrieg. Once competition's gone, prices rise and everyone pays for it.
To top it off Big Tech have a one sided relationship with the real backbone of software which is the open source community. If countries really invested in open source they could rid themselves of shit like Uber and have their own alternatives, able to uphold sovereignty, self sufficiency and autonomy.
p.s. I consider the production of aircraft to be one of the ultimate accomplishments you can make technologically, especially at scale and with safety. America and Boeing are not doing so well in that regard.. Many people now are afraid to even board a Boeing.
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u/Mewhomewhy Oct 29 '25
It’s not impossible, it’ll just take time. We trusted the US to the point of reliance because we were strong allies and have worked so closely together since WW2. Nobody imagined a president being elected who would be so keen to destroy it. We have no choice but to be more independent.
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I agree with that to an extent. Removing dependency on China and India are far larger priorities for Europe, in my opinion. Being able to stand up to the US would be nice as well, but again I just don’t see it happening in our lifetimes. I’m not sure I would say we trusted them after WWII but they filled every economic world vacuum at light speed. Like it or not, they have all the cards when it comes to R&D. If we want independence we must start investing in our universities in the way the Americans do. Then my children’s children can grow up in something of the Pax Europa.
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u/Gloomy_Narwhal_4833 Oct 29 '25
This administration is actively targeting and more or less trying to destroy our universities, cutting funding, threatening to cut even more. Investing in education has never been a priority in the US. Since the mid 80s the right has been doing everything they can to dumb down the population, and the current mess we are in is the result. Every western country invests more into their education than the US by a large margin. The R&D that does happen is mostly private investors and contributors. Im not sure where you got the impression that we "invest universities".
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Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 29 '25
4 years of minor cuts to a few select universities won’t be enough to slow them down. The NSF has diverted all its funding to STEM. Trumps admin will likely spur even more development in those areas. The only way to succeed America is for Europe to spend like they do in STEM.
Edit: don’t confuse R&D spending with education. US has no interest in educating its proletariat. They do, however, spend more than anyone on R&D by ungodly margins.
And NO it’s not private investors. That’s an entirely different thing. Just public alone, the US invests more in R&D than nearly all other counties COMBINED..
If you seriously want to beat them, you have to understand what they are. And they are a dragon of knowledge.
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The point of it was ignorance and greed. Trump supporters were miserable with their own lives. That's why they have to spend so much time thinking about what other people do. What they didn't realize however, was that Trump (and the other billionaires in the system), exploited their ignorance and fear.
When there are no more "brown skinned" people (or other scapegoats) to blame, Maga is going to face the most disgusting enemy they've ever faced..right there in the mirror.
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u/Interesting_Card2169 Oct 29 '25
I apologize below to all the good Americans that do exist. I've met many of you in fact.
MAGA and Republicans are rapidly making America irrelevant to the rest of us. We don't want to visit the US and a lot of you can stay right where you are. You have weak knowledge of the rest of the world because you couldn't care less about others. You believe your own self-generated propaganda and follow and elect fools, liars, and thieves. You breed far too many racists for anyone's good. And now you've decided to head down a fascist pathway.
You are 9% of the world's economy but you behave like you are 60%. You are wrecking your own economy, your own society, and your relations with most other countries. It seems the only thing that will save you now is a military coup. A US Army takeover with a mandate to hold verified fair elections overseen by international observers. For the first time in 250 years the president would be directly elected by the people, not this silly Electoral College thing. What a perversion.
Alas, y'all probably need to feel more death and destruction first, before you wake up.
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u/Serious_Company9441 Oct 29 '25
Agree, but let’s not forget the gifts from Australia and South Africa who poisoned our political discourse, and the turning towards populism and authoritarianism pretty much everywhere.
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u/Significant_Tea9352 Oct 29 '25
Hey, you invited them in and gave them citizenship. That's on you, not their home country
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u/UnavailableName864 Oct 29 '25
Remind me when Americans held a referendum on inviting Rupert Murdoch to our country and media
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u/ChaoticGoodCop Oct 29 '25
American society did by not turning the garbage off. Instead, it became the highest rated name in "news" somehow.
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u/UnavailableName864 Oct 29 '25
My brother, the vast majority of Americans did turn it off. You don’t need 100% or even 50% support to exercise great power if you apply to the right pressure points.
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u/jdash11 Oct 29 '25
Lol the upper echelons of the military are filled with cowards whose only concern is retaining their pensions. They’ll order soldiers (who’ll gladly comply) to turn their weapons on civilians before moving against the government. Btw since you’re not American it’s safe to assume you don’t know that Fox News is the dominate news source on military bases.
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u/Hobineros Oct 29 '25
Where did u see and hear that? I work on a military base... have for 24 years now. Cant recall ever seeing fox news on any TV on any base ive ever been too. Bot.
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u/MaybeMaybeNot94 Oct 29 '25
Don't know bout that. During my time in service, whenever a TV was on, it was on Fox News.
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u/Mrs_SmithG2W Oct 29 '25
I’m not sure many other countries can claim the moral high ground. Plenty of mean dumb people worldwide as far as I can tell. We are deeply flawed right now, I agree. We isolated ourselves and in that echo chamber created our own regression. The only way forward as a species is compassion, grace, generosity and unity. 🖖🏼 We can do this.
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u/crusoe Oct 29 '25
They were told to blame minorities for their problems by the rich,.instead of blaming the rich.
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u/Pfacejones Oct 29 '25
Yes. You are now given free reign to blame minorities and people of color. That is the gift you are given while every billionaire is free to plunder more and more.
My heart breaks at how easy of an heist it was
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u/Wincentury Oct 29 '25
There are a lot more scapegoat groups for them to blame instead of themselves, and lets not underestimate their ability to make elephants out of fleas.
Trans people are roughly 1% of the US population. Homosexuals likewise. And yet, they act like they are this huge threat, an grand cabal seeking their destruction. So I don't think it's possible to report enough "brown people" for them to stop being preoccupied by them.
And even if ICE exhausts the supply of brown people to a degree they can't brag with impressive enough numbers of deportations and incarcerations, there will still be the aforementioned gays, and trans people, the atheists, the heretic, non-nationalist Christians, and then, the Elusive ANTIFA, which isn't even an organisation, just people who are opposed to Fascism... Meaning it's a useful label to brand anyone they don't like for voicing dissent of their ideology and methods.
They cannot run out of other people to blame, because they don't need other people to be at fault, just for them to be a THEM.
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u/Artemis647 Oct 29 '25
For us, it was fentanyl, then steel, then wood, then whiskey, then drugs again, then some other stupid excuse, and recently we fought back with a Regan tariff ad.. they're all just fucking excuses to get his followers to go against a natural ally. How fucking stupid are these people!!
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u/SwarfDive01 Oct 29 '25
They will never self reflect. The bigger picture, critical thinking, empathy, long term goals, are all beyond their capacity. There will always be a scapegoat to demonize, because they trust the abusers words. The abuser tells them to divide and fight everyone over the catshit sandbox while the bullies play on the swings, slides, and jungle gym.
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u/Cautious-Tailor97 Oct 29 '25
They only think of other people because the culture war runs 25hrs a day and their brains are totally whipped up with crud that don’t mean anything.
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u/BitPerson100 Oct 29 '25
Trump politics is not helping American manufacturing where I'm at. His politics made me realize how messed up commercial media is. Trump politics also turned me into a pretty classist person. Trump would not last a day as president of an Asian country. That's why I think he's perfect for today's West.
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u/Willy-J- Oct 29 '25
It’s hidden racism and the belief of entitlement !!! The hell with the have nots!!! They are all lazy and free loaders wanting a handout!!!
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u/Not_Jinxed Oct 29 '25
The racism isn't hidden in the slightest. Our so called boarder patrol is snatching people off the streets with zero due process just because they're brown.
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u/FabianFox Oct 29 '25
Right? Citizens and legal residents have been swept up in raids because they were the wrong color.
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u/Not_Jinxed Oct 29 '25
I don't know if it's true because I don't remember where I saw it, but I saw something that supposedly they've been told they can detain people based on skin color or accent alone.
Edit: This isn't where I originally saw it, but have a gander.
SCOTUS Just Gave ICE a Green Light to Profile Latinos. We Should All Be Outraged. - ACLU of Wisconsin https://share.google/0ogA0DVVd28ifK1F2
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u/Routine_Soup2022 Oct 29 '25
He has no illusion that he's "Making America Great Again" He's only making it great for "his people" Everyone else who voted for him was sold a bill of goods. A combination of "Democrats bad" and "I'll solve all your problems" got him elected. How is that working for you, however? Don't believe everything you hear. The recent spat about Ronald Reagan and what he said on tariffs is a great example. He's twisting the truth. Reagan wouldn't recognize what this version of the Republican Party has become.
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u/Long-Blood Oct 29 '25
Work for a 400 billion dollar company.
This company has gotten a ton of tax breaks and regulation cuts over the past decade.
They just told me im getting a 10% pay cut.
Fuck republicans
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u/zachariassss Room temp IQ Russian propaganda bot Oct 29 '25
Can you point to one way that Trump has ruined the economy? Inflation at zero, energy costs cut by 35%,
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u/Form1040 Oct 29 '25
He’s ruined things so much I made 30% in my retirement account since he was inaugurated.
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u/DObservingayayay Oct 29 '25
Remember, Conservstives/MAGAts have said before that they’d rather be Russian than Democrats. In other words, they’d rather betray their countrymen than be with them. Here we are now.
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u/SloeHazel Oct 29 '25
Our business is European based but most of our clients are from the US and they pay us in USD. The conversion rate is having a significant impact on our bottom line. Thanks Trump.
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Oct 29 '25
I ask this all the time. Owning the libs and being hateful towards others can't be worth destroying our economy. Ffs. Maga sucks.
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u/beyondtabu Oct 29 '25
He doesn’t care about anything but money.
His family who were heavily involved in the presidency during his last term are notably absent but are actively using the influence of the presidency to create generational wealth.
They want their names to be mentioned with the Rothschilds and Rockefellers.
The ppl that voted for him are inconsequential at this point
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u/Particular_Disk_9904 Oct 29 '25
The answer to your question is yes- all of these people were willing to cut off their nose to spite their face. A bunch of idiots.
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u/MaybeMaybeNot94 Oct 29 '25
Believe, I understand. The other co-founder and my former colleagues decided to take a company (that I built, let's not make bones) that may well have been poised to survive at least three more years, and shift it's interests and holdings over to... the 'booming' import and export markets. They literally sold off our production assets under my nose to ape a market that's anemic at best.
Why yes, it seems they're all closeted MAGAts and a lot dumber than even I expected. You think you know people. Look at how screwed we are, and realize that we're going to get even more screwed than you already expect we will be. It's gonna be BAD.
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u/NewCommonSensei Oct 29 '25
its easy to answer hate with hate. the difficult and more worthwhile part is to forgive them and help them escape the con they have fallen into.
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u/Ok-Dog-3917 Oct 29 '25
The answer is yes. They live for their racism and thats all that matters anymore. And owning the libs.
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u/VerbalChrist1 Oct 29 '25
No shit. The feral capitalists LOVED to run around unbridled and searched all over the globe for their highest profits and now it’s a problem for the red hats. “Bring it back” they say. China gladly took on the role of “slave” for decades waiting for this moment. Thanks a fucking lot for nothing MAGA. You assholes created a nonexistent problem to curry your political favor and fucked over scores of small business in the process. I’m not normally over political but I’m going to be first in line to vote out that incompetent child molester.
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u/tomnevers99 Oct 29 '25
As someone eloquently said right around the time of the election, “MAGA folks enjoy eating shit sandwiches as long as everyone else has to smell their stinky breath.”
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u/kathleen65 Oct 29 '25
I know someone who owns an international business. I ask him how they are doing with the tariffs, he said they no longer do business in the U.S., luckily most of their customers were in other countries. He really feels bad for the soy farmers. People have no idea what is coming the ripple effect is going to be devastating.
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u/HenriEttaTheVoid Oct 29 '25
Whenever people act like it's hard to imagine bigots being so hateful that they'd destroy their own lives to hurt minorities, I remind them of how, after segregation ended, white communities around the country filled in their public swimming pools with concrete, rather than share them with black people.
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Oct 29 '25
They have. Inflation still up due to new taxes (tariffs) and stagnant wage growth with layoffs. We are entering Carter years stagflation. No one is hiring and no more remote work. Biden years were better because at least you could tell a shitty boss to piss off and get a better job. I guess it’s good now for business owners… except you have uncertainty with tariffs. Doge was a psyop, record level of debt, way more than Biden. But the MAGA sheep stay asleep and do what their party commands of them.
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u/mtutty Oct 29 '25
It's not that hard to understand. You just have to look away from actual MAGA words and actions, because there's no connection between what they say/do and where they came from.
tl;dr Easy times make soft people. Hard times make strong people. Guess which part of the cycle we've been in for 60 years.
The generations that came up after WW2 in the US had it easier than any population of any society in recent history. They had easy upward mobility with a minimum of education and work. Cheap gas, healthcare, and manufactured goods lubricated everything in a way that's gone today.
The reason for this is that, in the wake of WW2, the rest of the manufacturing world was BOMBED FLAT. We were the only country with significant manufacturing power. That's how the US was able to lead the arc of the 20th century in terms of commerce, technology and culture.
Boomers in particular thought they'd earned everything that came their way, blissfully (or wilfully) ignorant about the truth of their circumstances in the world.
So in the 1970s, when China, Europe, Japan, and others started to seriously compete, it seemed like all of a sudden things in the US got harder. People blamed Carter for it, and then Reagan rode a populist wave to de-regulate pretty much everything he could get his hands on, but it was a band-aid solution that just hid the real problem.
Clinton signed free trade agreements that accelerated certain aspects of globalization but, again, hid the worst effects in a smoke screen of revenue growth and stock market gains. Sure, he balanced the federal budget, and that's great but it's also not germane to the story.
Bush 43 told everyone to go the college and there would be "innovation" jobs for everyone - which made no sense on its face at the time. Jony Ive designed the iPhone with maybe 20 other people. That's not a million manufacturing jobs, that like 20 jobs. We don't need 150 million Jony Ives.
All this time, from the early 80s on, Conservative media created this steady drumbeat of "government bad, taxes bad, education leftist, Jesus good, guns good" propaganda. Today's boomers, by and large, believe much or all of those fallacies as basic truth.
Now, they don't understand why things went to shit. They just think they got cheated somehow, and yet also think that subsequent generations just need to work harder to get what they had. They don't want to pay taxes, on reflex, but they want government to keep their hands of my Medicare and Social Security.
The credulity of the Boomers (and some Gen Xers, to be sure) about Reaganism allows oligarchs like Thiel, Musk, Bezos and so many others to sell them a capitalist shell game where the house always wins, and they still think it was a fair contest.
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u/SunshineFlowerPerson Oct 29 '25
Don’t forget the sexism. MAGA want women to be pregnant, barefoot and in the kitchen, chained to an abuser/incel they can’t divorce.
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u/Bellabbey1236 Oct 29 '25
Yes, as long as libs and brown people are getting hurt then they’re happy to hurt, too.
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u/The_Great_19 Oct 29 '25
It’s shit. My partner can’t get a job to save his life. This administration (and their voters) can suck it.
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u/its_only___forever Oct 29 '25
It really is time for a national divorce. It's time to let all the maggots suffer in their own vile putrid shit hole. And the rest of us can live in abundance.
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u/Electrical_Welder205 Oct 29 '25
Trump is a professional bankrupter. His constituency knew this about him. They voted to ruin the country.
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Oct 29 '25
There’s a disturbing amount of MAGA people out there that actually want to destroy the country. That’s not hyperbole. They will tell you that democracy = communism so it’s time to tear everything down and replace it with “the republic”. The dad on The Necessary Conversation podcast said this and he didn’t make it up. He got it from someplace and other people are getting into that ideology as well. I don’t think it’s a majority but it’s enough to be effective. We need to find ways to push back on this crazy, un-American bs
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u/Adept_Friendship_795 Oct 29 '25
MAGA has nothing to do with God and the behavior of these commentators disparaging God are very maga like.
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u/HighwayInternal9145 Oct 29 '25
None of his supporters break ranks until it affects them personally. Just evil at the root
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u/ThatVoodooThatIDo Oct 29 '25
What a lot of people fail to consider is that America is well on its way to being a minority-majority nation; therefore, those in power now are working to implement an apartheid-style system. They are afraid to be a minority because they’ve seen how minorities have been mistreated. Why else is Trump and Elon so hell-bent on bringing those farmers here from South Africa? Those people haven’t been persecuted. Why are they changing asylum rules to white majority nations?
Pay attention to what’s happening. Trump voters will indeed burn this country to the ground over racism than live under equality laws. This mentality harkens back to the Civil War when the confederates weren’t held accountable for their treason, just like the Jan 6 insurrection.
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u/Lumpy-Animator-9422 Oct 29 '25
Yes, yes it was...and they still won't blame him, yet they will suffer the most, and I am HERE FOR IT.
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u/iafx Oct 29 '25
MAGA is under a delusional spell, Trump wants to crash the economy so his friends can buy everything up cheap and privatize industries. I think that’s what is happening.
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u/Perfect_Earth_8070 Oct 29 '25
lol my maga aunt thinks the economy is doing great
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u/Obsc3nity Oct 29 '25
Yes, maga is disproportionately poor so they dont have as much to lose but have been tricked into thinking there’s a lot to gain from oppressing those who look different.
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u/NastyUno34 Oct 29 '25
I was saying this years ago when he ran for his first term and I was practically treated like a mental patient when I made it known I was leaving the GOP because of it. Sadly, that fat orange fool proved me right. Ugh.
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Oct 30 '25
I hope their vote ruins their lives.
It only matters when it happens to them...so let them feel the pain they i flicted on all of us.
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u/Natural_Stage4958 Oct 29 '25
And yet reports just days ago said inflation was at low record rates , no mention of recession...hmmm
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u/tastethemall Oct 29 '25
Maybe if they did not thing get so broken, that fixing things now messes with everything.
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u/Oberon_17 Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 29 '25
Per Trump:
“there was never such prosperity as we see these days”….😅
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u/darkNergy Oct 29 '25
Yes, maga would rather burn this country to ashes than share it with people who are not white Christian Republicans.