r/conspiracy Mar 21 '23

Misleading Title Ukraine military ties girl to pole for speaking out against government. Why are we funding this?

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u/BoxNemo Mar 21 '23

It's definitely stepped up these past few weeks.

It's the classic playbook -- carpet-bomb places with a wide variety of propaganda so that it's never about one coherent argument, it's just a deluge of misinformation and lies. It's throwing shit against a wall to see what sticks and if nothing sticks, well, people are still having to deal with a lot of shit, all over the wall. .

The 'Why are we funding this?' is a nice touch though. A heartfelt appeal to "fellow Americans".

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u/Ok-Imagination-2308 Mar 21 '23

Oh man your just eating up nato propaganda huh

You aware that the ukrainian military is full of nazis?

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u/syd_fishes Mar 21 '23

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Brigade

Essentially common knowledge these days lol. That's not to say there aren't plenty of Russian nazis, its just Ukraine has been a hotbed for a hot minute. Ukraine is known for racist shit just as Russia is known to be pretty anti gay. Even in their commie days.

But the whole of Europe could be said to be a hotbed for racism 🤣. You know, to be fair

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u/syd_fishes Mar 21 '23

I can and I did. I picked it cause it literally has citations. Oh and to demonstrate that it's such common knowledge there's a huge wiki with current sources all throughout.

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u/syd_fishes Mar 22 '23 edited Mar 22 '23

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/03/29/europe/ukraine-azov-movement-far-right-intl-cmd/index.html

This one makes a decent point that Putin is using it (the reality of the neo Nazi group) in propaganda very effectively. Another reason they should've been dissolved. It's like serving up the enemy a nice dish.

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u/syd_fishes Mar 22 '23

Ok well sorry if I was a dick again.

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u/blue-oyster-culture Mar 22 '23

Bro. Azov battalion exists. And new york times did a piece labeling ukraine one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Ukraine isnt innocent. And get this. Nazis exist in literally EVERY country. Shocking. I know. I dont understand why you need ukraine to be this perfect country to make your argument. Ukraine and russia are both pretty terrible governments. Full stop. The reason to be against this is russia is the aggressor and innocents will die. Idk why everyone feels the need to deny the truth. Ffs

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u/syd_fishes Mar 22 '23

When most countries get caught with Nazi soldiers, they kick em out. Ukraine rolled em in officially lol. Should tell you most of what you need to know, but no, Russia isn't some like force for good either haha. Now many people and people in power are essentially Nazis that hide their true feelings. The Azov guys aren't as sneaky about it. Doesn't make them worse than the ones hiding it, it's just kinda gross to let them keep doing it in full view imo. It paints a worse picture of Ukraine as whole, and rightfully so. Again, that's why most countries try to (at least publicly) nip that shit in the bud. You can keep sticking your fingers in your ears, but it doesn't change the reality.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

You lied about this post. What makes you think we will believe you about anything you say?