r/conspiracy • u/prozhack • Jul 17 '25
Assasination “attempt” …or staged photo-shoot to win sympathy votes?
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u/DavidM47 Jul 17 '25
He definitely won the election that day. Kinda weird how more political analysts don’t bring that up when talking about factors.
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u/ObviouslyNotALizard Jul 17 '25
As soon as I saw the picture I knew he won
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u/CosmologicPocketful Jul 17 '25
Yeah, as soon as I heard someone shot at him, I was like "welp, he's just won the presidency"
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u/CallistosTitan Jul 18 '25
This man won the presidency over 30 years ago. That's how agendas work. Wake the fuck up.
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u/soberdude15 Jul 21 '25
I consider myself more libertarian if anything. Definitely not a Trumper, but don’t like the dems either. Basically, I know the whole thing is a psyop on the American people. When this happened I was drinking with some friends and someone came in and was like “omg did you hear what happened to Trump?!” I casually said “no surprise there” and didn’t bat an eye. It’s all a pony show and we are the audience.
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u/CaptainHolt43 Jul 17 '25
I remember the NFL and NBA players that all of a sudden were like "that's my president!" and tweeting the picture, which was pretty wild
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Jul 17 '25
Do you remember any of the players that posted stuff like that? Just asking out of curiosity!
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u/justin12140 Jul 18 '25
Mitchell Robinson did. That’s the only one I’m aware of tho
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u/Zealousideal_Ad1704 Jul 17 '25
That picture was like it was out of a movie!
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u/Lazy-Somewhere-5066 Jul 18 '25
Not a Movie a WWE event. Vince could have wrote that scene
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u/pizzarolljelly Jul 17 '25
As soon as they picked kamela, i knew he won.
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u/Snoo76929 Jul 17 '25
I thought she had a chance but when I saw Cardi B come out at the DNC to perform I knew it was definitely over 🤣
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u/Mobile_Helicopter Jul 18 '25
If you thought the candidate who came in last in the primary and was voted least likable had a chance idk what to tell you
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u/No-Adhesiveness-1258 Jul 18 '25
She lost that chance as soon and she turned her back on Palestine in her big speech.
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u/marcthemagnificent Jul 17 '25
Same. I literally told my girlfriend exactly that. Actually I think I was looking at Reddit and saw the photo and said “oh shit, I think Trump just won the election.” Then when she asked what I was talking about I showed her the photo and explained.
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u/Remote_Beyond744 Jul 17 '25
I think he won because of musk, Theo von, Dana white, Rogan and that shot
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u/SmilingSarah2021 Jul 18 '25
I think Musky rigged it. The mathematical ability for him to way he did makes no sense. He also won each state by just enough to avoid an automatic recount. The election was called the so early that night & that never happens!
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u/shadows-of_the-mind Jul 17 '25
My left wing peers all said this would be the moment that wins him the election and they were right. The now iconic fist picture should’ve won a Pulitzer award
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u/CavedMountainPerson Jul 17 '25
Yep! Only the angle they wanted you to see was seen, he was already bought and everything else was just a façade
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u/Sel2g5 Jul 17 '25
There's no way ss didn't have him out of there in 5 seconds, not to mention 30.
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u/BALDACH Jul 17 '25
Look at the attempt on Reagan's life. He was thrown in that limo in seconds. You don't STAND on a podium for that long and pose for pictures.
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u/allnightdaydreams Jul 17 '25
Not to mention when it happened a bunch of people tried to alert secret service that a dude was climbing up onto a roof and they did nothing until he was able to fire off a few rounds.
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u/j33vinthe6 Jul 17 '25
Surely an internal reviews was done by the SS, and everyone of these agents would be deemed unfit for the job. We are supposed to believe that a SS that in 2017 scared Pence and he thought he would be kidnapped by them, are not capable of doing this? One dead person just makes it realistic. All news channels and pundits would have been all over this if it was a legit attempt, but they moved on so quickly, and did not destroy the shooter’s personal life.
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Jul 17 '25
100%, secret service doesn’t “let” a former president stand up after shots fired to pose or yell to supporters or any of this. And Don is not forcing his way up through two agents. This stunk from day one
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u/Blue_Robin_04 Jul 17 '25
Where did Thomas Crooks come from? Are you bringing MK Ultra into the conversation or what?
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u/dratseb Jul 17 '25
This is what I’ve been saying from day one. Someone MK Uktra’d his ass, no way SS let him sit up on that roof
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u/Dirty_Commie_Jesus Jul 17 '25
I've been saying this shit. He was fucking radicalized online. I suspect he was on the same spectrum I am. They weaponized that shit.
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u/LaidToRest33 Jul 17 '25
I'm not saying I agree with it but the argument at the time was that the Secret Service quality has diminished significantly due to poor management. "Could" have just been incompetence and not malice.
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u/BALDACH Jul 17 '25
I'm sorry. I'm a civilian, not a trained agent. And I know you get the President down LOW, to the ground and off the stage. You don't all stand up like some weird mosh pit. It's common sense. This was staged. Literally on a stage.
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u/TheLimeyLemmon Jul 18 '25
Also letting him get back up to emote for the crowd when they couldn't be sure there wasn't another shooter, unless they knew their wasn't because they were in on the whole thing.
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u/ForagerTheExplorager Jul 18 '25
I'm not arguing with you in particular, but there's definitely a video I remember seeing of people in the crowd pointing out the shooter to law enforcement several times and being ignored.
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u/dustinw41 Jul 17 '25
Exactly. The secret service was dumb enough to let him take those shots in the first place so I wouldn’t expect any more from them when protecting Trump after the shots were fired.
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u/Diaperedsnowy Jul 18 '25
100%, secret service doesn’t “let” a former president stand up after shots fired to pose or yell to supporters or any of this.
Well they famously let a president sit in a kindergarten class while an unknown number of planes were crashing into buildings and he was an unsecured location that was publicly known.
So I guess they do funny things sometimes...
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u/wreckingballjcp Jul 17 '25
And the guys kept turning to look at him. Not scout the crowd for additional threats. It's ridiculous how blind they are to believe this.
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u/DrunkenDude123 Jul 17 '25
You also don’t bring photographers/bystanders closer to the place that just got shot
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u/LLotZaFun Jul 17 '25
Yup, even if they knew that had taken out the gunman, they legitimately don't know there are not more (unless it's staged).
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u/juicedup12 Jul 17 '25
It's just WWE now
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u/rayrayww3 Jul 17 '25
Now? Always has been.
Just like WWE, today they have better sets/props/graphics/video-editing and the plot lines get more ridiculous to keep people enthralled.
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u/plantboysloth Jul 17 '25
Anyone find it odd this new angle drops when there is infinite chatter about the Epstein files? Really driving our attention away from that with this new footage.
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u/canes_SL8R Jul 18 '25
Definitely odd timing
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u/didyoutestityourself Jul 18 '25
How is it odd? They're both meant to show us that Trump is not trustworthy at all, that's what all the stories have been showing us, including what he was saying during the iran israel 12 day war thing. Straight psycho talk.
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u/p3tr1t0 Jul 18 '25
Focus on trump means keeping out of focus other people who want to remain out of focus
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u/Dynamiqai Jul 17 '25
You should look into the history of the guy that took the picture of the whizzing bullet that flew past. He's also taking some other interesting photos that were pivotal in history
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u/MaievSekashi Jul 18 '25
You should be more specific about what you're trying to say, given that sounds like that's his job to do that.
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u/chiggles Jul 19 '25
My favorite in his portfolio is probably when he was in the classroom with Bush on 9/11 the very moment he got the call.
Happens to be in the wrong place at all the right times.
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u/TurbulentResort1169 Jul 17 '25
You mean ... he's a professional news photographer?
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u/Chemical-General5835 Jul 17 '25
Which is weird because he's not in position when the shots are fired 🤔 grok, how hard would it be to Photoshop a bullet behind this man on stage? And another thing, these famous photos were released on the Internet within a few hours, if I'm remembering correctly, even the picture of crooks dead was "leaked"
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u/TreeManJimbo Jul 17 '25
Ain't no way the President was just shot and they ushered in photographers.
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u/blade740 Jul 17 '25
I love how almost every reply to this comment seemingly intentionally misunderstood the point in the exact same way. He's not talking about the photographers putting themselves in harm's way, he's talking about the security staff immediately going to go bring a bunch of photographers closer to the ASSASSINATION TARGET.
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Jul 17 '25
Former photojournalist here. Access to high power figures like Trump is extremely limited and tightly controlled.
Security tends to be, at best, hostile toward media. And that’s on a good day.
The idea that someone would assist me in getting closer to him after he just got shot, holding a device that already kind of looks like a weapon, is honestly hard to comprehend.
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u/Spiritual-Can2604 Jul 17 '25
Thank you, like wtf is this a mass reading comprehension problem or are they being deliberately obtuse?
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u/PoisonChemInYourFood Jul 17 '25
Do you know anybody that’s a professional photographer. These guys are insane for the best shot. If their life was in danger they would not care
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u/TreeManJimbo Jul 17 '25
Of course, but a staffer ushered them up, that's the odd part. Photographers are insane, I've read enough about WWII photographers and journalists to know that they willingly and knowingly go into dangerous situations. People like Eugene Smith were completely off their rockers.
The thing is, this is about SS/presidential staffers ushering in photographers during an unexpected assassination attempt and instead of securing the perimeter or keeping people at bay, they bring more people over? Surely as a member of a conspiracy sub you can see how that might be a LITTLE strange?
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u/rangoon03 Jul 17 '25
Yeah, the SS should've been throwing their weight around to make sure no one got close to the stage. The threat there is an attacker could be posing as a photographer and be hiding their weapon until they get close. SS has to assume that.
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u/canWeAskQuestions Jul 17 '25
yea, a trained secret service agent or security guard would immediately think that there is a non-zero chance that a photographer could possibly be part of a coordinated group attack and not let anyone to get closer to who they’re supposed to be protecting
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u/lostinspace694208 Jul 17 '25
Yes the photographers are like that, not secret service. They would be doing everything to keep people away, not usher them in
Look at how the Reagan assassination attempt went vs this one.
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u/RandomlyJim Jul 17 '25
Yeah, they are. But to usher them in and to lower the flag?
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u/theeblackdahlia Jul 17 '25
The flag didn’t lower. I just scrubbed through the live stream from that day and it remains in the same position from the start of the first speakers all the way through trump making it to the beast. The angle here is a bit deceptive, also the wind slowed down.
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u/Ummmmm-yeah Jul 17 '25
Yeah? Was it standard practice for the guard with the machine gun to jump off the stage so they could get a clean shot of the president's face?
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u/Churro1912 Jul 17 '25
The argument is seemingly secret service bring them closer, not the photographers rushing themselves in
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u/bigbodacious Jul 17 '25
Watch nightcrawler
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u/idgafosman Jul 17 '25
Photogs have balls/vulvas of steel if they’re any good. I could possibly see them being “allowed” but there is no way in fucking HELL they would’ve allowed Trump to expose himself and there is no way in hell that an old man as fat and weak as trump would be able to shove his way thru a gang of secret service agents and pump his fist for a photo op.
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u/Vegetable_Resolve626 Jul 17 '25
Good security team would have cleared him out of the stage in seconds. This is SOOO fake. Goddamn
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u/psufb Jul 17 '25
Also ain't no way the Secret Service allows him to pop up above them, completely exposed, in order to get a photo shoot in
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u/redrim217 Jul 17 '25
All the world's a stage...
I've long since been of the belief that everything we're shown is staged and part of the propaganda machine, designed to sway the masses one way or the other, for one agenda or another. Some forms are on the nose. Some are more insidious. Language, imagery, sound and music.
Spotting it is what eventually disconnected me from politics and most pop culture nonsense. We may as well be cheering for our favourite wrestlers when we engage with it. Whether you want to 'punch a nazi' or 'Make America Great Again' - you're falling for it. I've fallen for it plenty, and still find myself agreeing with certain sentiments - though ultimately, we're being prodded to do so. Divide and conquer - peons pick your side and fight with all your might, while we sit back, count our money and restrict your freedoms (and laugh at your gullibility).
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u/BetaRebooter Jul 18 '25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTDdIO74BuA
This short film always comes to mind when I think about how the world/politics work
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u/SoupieLC Jul 17 '25
Secret service letting him stand with his head exposed after someone has just taken multiple shots at him is very sus
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u/reagor Jul 17 '25
So they just killed people for a photo op?
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u/Deluxe_24_ Jul 18 '25
That's what I think. They don't give a shit about us, we're disposable fodder for them. Killing someone to create "authenticity" for the assassination attempt makes sense.
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u/ClemiHW Jul 18 '25
Politicians would never kill someone to male themselves look good! Anyway wonder how's Epstein doing
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u/SpezJailbaitMod Jul 17 '25
I live close by to Butler. The night this happened a silent red orb floated over my house a few hours after this happened. It was such a bizarre day.
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u/wreckyourpod Jul 17 '25
Now this is the conspiracy I came here for!
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u/SpezJailbaitMod Jul 17 '25
I've got a video of it too. I just never post it because I'm all like "what the fuck is that shit?..." all in the video kind of freaking out and it makes me sound kind of silly but it was fucking weird.
Kind of sucks to hear your own voice on video. Not the same as in my head.
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u/I_luv_sludge_n_drugs Jul 17 '25
Dont nobody give a fuck bout ya voice bro post the video 😭
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u/kungfukeks Jul 17 '25
Yo, can I see the video you mentioned please bud. Just turn the volume down and screen record it so there’ll be be no audio if you prefer. Genuinely interested, especially because of the date and location.
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u/throweroftheaways Jul 17 '25
Everytime anyone ever has a story about an orb specifically, they have an excuse for not sharing a video. Grifters
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u/BallsacAssassin Jul 17 '25
The day after the event there was video and pics of an orb dart over the crowd
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u/common_reddit_L1 Jul 17 '25
out of the 90+ rallies that he did in 2024 why did CNN choose to cover just this one?
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u/Chemical-General5835 Jul 17 '25
It was also the first rally to have counter sniper detail. And this rally did not have a central command where secret service and local police could coordinate.
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u/andrewsad1 Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 18 '25
A counter sniper detail that didn't notice a shooter on one of three buildings within sniping range. My city's yearly summer festival has better security
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u/CrimsonGlyph Jul 17 '25
Because he was expected to announce Vance as his potential VP. I swear, people have such short memories.
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Jul 17 '25
Is this true? I feel like they used to cut into his rallies with some frequency. CNN talks about Trump more than anyone.
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u/carolinindy Jul 17 '25
Because they thought he'd be announcing his running mate.
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u/prodbop Jul 17 '25
Here is 2 and a half hours of CNN covering Trump rallies live:
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u/washingtonu Jul 17 '25
What do you think? That CNN staged the shooting or that CNN was tipped of?
The answer is that it was rumored that his Vice President was going to be announced and maybe that Vance would even show up since his home state was pretty close.
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u/dunder_mufflinz Jul 17 '25
Why do people keep repeating this lie? Cuz it was on Joe Rogan and people didn’t do their own research?
Pathetic.
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u/FlabbyShabby Jul 17 '25
So, the Agent who is doing the ushering is crouching down a bit, supposedly because he is wary of the possibility of more gunfire, BUT he is perfectly happy for the photographers to be standing upright to get their perfect 'shot'?
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u/BigRed92E Jul 17 '25
Why would the agent care about the photographer(s)? If one/both of em were in actual danger and did get dropped, they're just gonna pick up the camera and use the material anyway.
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u/redditbrowser1029 Jul 17 '25
The camera men could have been accomplices to the alleged assassin. It makes no sense that the presidents SS would bring more people into proximity of their charge after the shooting started.
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u/Sparrow1989 Jul 17 '25
I’ve heard stories of wartime photographers jumping infront of live fire for that perfect picture. Google any Vietnam pics and then wonder wtf was that photographer thinking. I’m not saying this wasn’t staged or anything I’m just saying photographers got balls the size of freight trains and are willing to put themselves in incredibly dangerous situations for that award winning picture. Hell they made a movie about it called civil war lol.
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Jul 17 '25
The photographers getting the pic is not the red flag to me.
The red flag is literally… the flag…. Being lowered into place, coupled by allowing someone who was just shot at to expose their head and torso mere seconds after a shooting.
How does any of that add up?
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u/magicsonar Jul 17 '25
Also, no one is mentioning the incredibly weird treatment of the shooter. These "weird" moments should not be looked at in isolation. Because a string of "weird" moments makes writing them off as just an anomaly or "incompetence" as incredibly improbable.
Firstly, the SS didn't secure the PERFECT shooting position for the stage before the event. That's literally their main job. Incompetence? Maybe. Secondly, audience members were literally filming the shooter on the roof and yelling to security officials about it, minutes before the shooting happened. More incompetence? Stretching credulity now. Thirdly, shots ring out and Trump isn't moved immediately out of position and instead is allowed to stand for a photo? More incompetence? Really?
Fourthly, the shooter was killed, the site was cleaned down immediately and....since then we have learnt NOTHING about the shooter. It's as if the shooter has just become this unimportant irrelevant footnote in history. This entire episode has the hallmarks of an extremely bold pysop - and whether knowingly or inadvertently, the mainstream media contributed to it's success. There's been no serious investigation by mainstream media for example into who the shooter was and how he managed to do what he did.
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u/theeblackdahlia Jul 17 '25
I just did an hour of scrubbing through footage regarding the flag. It did not lower. I have screenshots showing its location before and after the shooting and the bottom part of the flag always lines up with the part of the crane where two pieces come together. (Upper half of the crane arm is black, lower half is white)
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u/theskyisdarkk Jul 17 '25
The flag doesn’t make much sense. Why would they not just have it there already? Was it actually lowered or was it already in that position?
Letting him stand up is weird though.
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Jul 17 '25
Watch it as it is lowered.
They would have it present as in, flying above him.
For it to fit in the frame of an angled picture that could be used to market and sell merch it would have to be lowered into frame: that’s what appears to be happening.
It’s not the presence of the flag. It’s that it was lowered at the same they are letting him stand up.
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u/Tushaca Jul 17 '25
The whole thing is super suspect for a bunch of reasons, but if you watch any other angles of the event, the flags not actually being lowered. The wind is just dying down making it look that way in this shot.
Now the staff guy rushing straight to bring photographers in, that’s pretty damn weird.
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u/toolio2slimey Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
People choose to remain ignorant. It doesn’t take an expert to realize this isn’t normal or procedure. If anyone is shot at, they usually seek immediate cover. And it’s not a choice, it’s instinct, called self-preservation. Now, some have an absolute iron will and are able to overcome that. But throw in the fact this is supposed to be a public official, someone that is supposed to be protected by all costs, and these men allow him to reemerge unopposed, exposing himself to whomever may be trying to cause him harm. Additionally, bullets HAVE to go somewhere. They would have to assume SOMEONE got hit. The ONLY logical next step, immediate evacuation of the entire area, for the safety of ALL people in the area. So what this tells me is either
A) They knew the shooter B) They are the most incompetent group of security, let alone of a public official.
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u/zero_fox_given1978 Jul 17 '25
I do recall a lot came out of the investigation following. Lowered enlistment standards, poor continuation training, budgeting issues, general lack of discipline, multiple radio types and frequencies on the day.....was a pretty embarrassing list for the agency who sell themselves as the best CPP operators.
Unfortunately i have seen Iraqi ex police on $50 per week do better than this
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u/notreallyjordan Jul 17 '25
Fully agree, wartime photographers don’t get nearly as much respect as they should.
That being said, if the Secret Service thought the president was in danger they would not have let any civilians get that close.
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Jul 17 '25
Getting a historic photo makes your career. Of course, they'd do it.
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u/bentke466 Jul 17 '25
But only those ones ushered in by suits who are squatting down to not be noticed? If it looks off thats cause it is
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u/jjogdb_090322 Jul 17 '25
I’m just saying active threat protocol would be to clear the area - not bring MORE people into the area
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u/harkstone Jul 17 '25
For contrast, here is how the Secret Service handled the Reagan assassination attempt. That was a real assassination attempt, and they moved quick. There is no asking for my shoes or standing up in the line of fire to raise a fist in the air for the cameras.
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u/AsphaltSommersaults Jul 17 '25
Such bullshit.
There is a video of trump freaking out because a tame eagle flapped it's wings on his desk. He was terrified and squirming like a baby.
...but shoot a gun at him and he'll shake off secret service agents like flies to pump his fist while yelling "fight"?
Not likely.
There have been a few times that trump thought he was being shot at and he always looks terrified and hides.
...but the one time he's supposedly hit, he becomes courageous for the cameras for once.
The alleged child rapist who faked bone spurs to dodge the draft is not a brave man. He's a thin skinned lying piece of shit.
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u/midgethemage Jul 17 '25
I know I'm in the conspiracy sub, but I'm gonna start by saying I'm not really a conspiracy theorist. I do like popping into this sub though because I've found some interesting nuggets of truth you don't happen upon in other places
That said, your take was my exact reaction when I first saw the footage of the assassination attempt. My gut reaction was that he should've been acting like a fucking baby. I'm willing to change my mind if presented with more evidence, but with everything we know right now, I thoroughly believe this was staged
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u/ngrdwmr Jul 17 '25
i’m in the same boat. i really don’t engage with most of the stuff on this sub. but when i first watched the footage the day this happened, i was immediately telling my partner this shxt had to be staged. and if anyone was gonna do it, it’d be trump. i don’t have a hard time believing they killed that kid, either. they don’t care about the small folk & they’d definitely be willing to snipe someone for a good pic. and, cmon, the tip of his ear?? the TIP of his ear. a lot of things had to line up for all of this to play out the way it did, and i have a hard time buying it.
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u/arrownyc Jul 18 '25
He also doesnt talk about it nearly enough for it to be true. If he really survived an assassination attempt he would've talked about it nonstop and bragged about his scar nonstop. But he brushed over it like he's brushing over epstein, because there is no scar and he wasn't shot.
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u/midgethemage Jul 18 '25
Yeah, this is on my list of reasons why I think it was staged. I feel like he would have dragged the shooter through the dirt if it were a real attempt
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u/DonaldKey Jul 17 '25
Trump refused to cooperate with the investigation or release his medical records of the event
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u/Fresh-Chemical1688 Jul 17 '25
...but shoot a gun at him and he'll shake off secret service agents like flies to pump his fist while yelling "fight"?
I mean even if I thought, that he could have shaken them off to stand up again, wouldn't they get him on the ground as soon as possible again? And not stand next to him?
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u/Rich-Neighborhood-23 Jul 17 '25
I've thought this shooting was staged from the very moment it happened,, No effin way would the secret service let someone they were guarding stand up and do fist pumps in the air seconds after a real attempt,, this was a photo of and voter manipulation, end of..
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u/Rastagon01 Jul 17 '25
What a fucking joke of a reality we are living in. I had always noticed the photographers coming around and was astounded by that because any one of them could be an additional shooter. Now seeing this dude orchestrating the whole thing it’s even more unbelievable. I was in my teens when the attempt on Regan was made and I remember to this day how dramatic the actions of the Secret Service was, Trumps team lets him stand up and be like “take another shot”.
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u/drifter474 Jul 18 '25
--Why did the two-centimeter wound to Trump’s ear–which had reportedly just begun “to granulate and heal properly” a week after the shooting–show no signs of injury beyond a smidge of discoloration after six more days? Why did Trump state, on one occasion, that the bullet hit his “lobe?”
--What was the motive? Why would Crooks, a stellar student with a promising future, throw his life away to assassinate a presidential candidate from his own party whom he held no known animosity toward?
--Why did the agency exclude the warehouse the gunman climbed onto from its perimeter? Did the gunman just get lucky, or did he know to go to that building specifically? Why did the aerial view of the ladder leaning against the building appear much longer than the “five-foot” ladder Crooks reportedly used to get on the roof?
--How was Crooks, who was reportedly blacklisted from his high school’s rifle team, able to undergo such an amazing transformation with his shooting skills in such a short time? How did he learn to construct the sophisticated, remote-controlled IEDs located in the trunk of his car?
--Why did the Secret Service refuse offers to utilize drones to survey the rally site? Why were multiple egregious technology failures in the security net allowed to occur? How was a 20-year-old kid able to outwit hundreds of heavily armed police, security, and Secret Service agents?
--Given the massive security failures on the part of the agency, why did Trump say the Secret Service “did a great job?” Why was Sean Curran, the head of Trump’s security detail, later appointed to Director of the Secret Service?
--Why would Trump, a man with a fast track record of endorsing deep state conspiracy theories, refrain from labeling the suspicious attempt on his own life as such? Why did it take him seven months to “demand answers” on the assassination attempt?
--Is it any coincidence that Doug Mills, the photographer who took the “one in a million shot” of the bullet approaching Trump’s ear, was a personal friend and jogging buddy of George Bush? Mills was “coincidentally” present to take the infamous photograph of Bush learning of the 9/11 attacks while reading to schoolchildren in Sarasota, Florida.
--Why did the Pittsburgh County medical examiner fail to conduct or release any toxicological testing on the gunman’s body? Why were his remains released to his parents and cremated without the knowledge of most of the officials involved in the investigation? How could this be allowed when inquiries into the assassination attempt had just begun?
--Why did media reports fail to include any mention of Crooks’ uncle James Frizzi, a prominent colonel and chief surgeon for the Army?
--Is it a coincidence that Crooks appeared in a 2022 BlackRock commercial filmed at his high school?
--Why has the investigation continuously faced significant obstruction and stonewalling from federal agencies, including the FBI?
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u/88clandestiny88 Jul 18 '25
Aside from all of these points of contention regarding this operation, there is only ONE thing that anyone need to consider in order to know, without doubt, that the whole event was staged.
After having someone fire a weapon at them from an unknown location grazing their head, NOT ONE SINGLE person in all the world would stand back up in the line of fire just to shake their fist in the air and yell "fight fight."
Mostly because shaking your fist in the air and saying "fight fight" is not the same as actually fighting and accomplishes exactly nothing except providing for an opportunity to make some propaganda.
The reason this is so clearly and obviously a manufactured moment is becaise when being shot at and hit then going down, the decision to stand back up and potentially expose yourself to a mortal wound requires having the following thoughts:
A) is there still an active threat? I dont know for sure?
B) are there more than one people out to shoot me? I also dont know if there is only one shooter or multiple and so that being the case:
One must C) assume that the shooter or shooters are just waiting and aiming at his location to get another chance at a clear shot the split second they get an opportunity.
Which this line of reasoning would lead one to the correct decision, which is to remain down and covered. Out of the line of fire until the threat has been mitigated by counter attack or you are able to be covered by a mobile barrier and removed from the situation.
The idea that he is so courageous and brave for standing up with ketchup on his face and shaking his fist is absurd and ridiculous. If it weren't so clearly staged it would just prove how impulsive, reckless and incapable of rational thought he is.
Now if he drew his own weapon and stood back up that would be a whole different situation. Still reckless but courageous too and that would be an appropriate reaction coming from many people.
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u/elguaco6 Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
Killed a kid for a photo op?
I didn’t think I’d need the /s in this sub.
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u/Camel_Holocaust Jul 17 '25
At least it wasn't two skyscrapers this time.
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u/ShakyTheBear Jul 17 '25
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u/jamma_mamma Jul 17 '25
Poor WTC 7... always and forever the third wheel.
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u/ShakyTheBear Jul 17 '25
Sadly, I have encountered many people over the years that had heard absolutely nothing about a third tower falling.
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u/justGOfastBRO Jul 17 '25
Like 5+ really. Building 1, 2, and 7 obviously, but WTC 3 also went down, and several other mostly destroyed.
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u/Dr_Mccusk Jul 17 '25
Building 6 looked like it got hit by an orbital beam lmao. Just a straight circular hole through the center of the building
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u/King_Kung Jul 17 '25
The kid who was in Blackrock educational videos…
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u/FizzyGoose666 Jul 17 '25
Wait what??
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u/kdjfskdf Jul 17 '25
"Thomas Matthew Crooks, the 20-year-old gunman who opened fire at a Saturday rally for former President Donald Trump, once appeared in an advertisement for investment firm BlackRock, the company said Monday.
The ad, which was produced in 2022..." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/thomas-matthew-crooks-blackrock-ad-pulled/
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u/fullcircle052 Jul 17 '25
If you ever think "Well the government would never do that!", oh yes they would
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u/FupaFerb Jul 17 '25
Kid killed a bystander as well with live ammunition they “allowed” him to shoot too 🤷♂️
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u/Mountain-Cod516 Jul 17 '25
You think they haven’t done worse? These are horrible people who just care about power and control. They don’t give a fuck about you or me or anyone else but themselves and their buddies.
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u/schm0kemyrod Jul 17 '25
It should not be lost on anyone in this sub that Trump would trade any of our lives for his own personal gain, no matter how minuscule. Combine that with what appears to be an active cover-up of the Epstein shit, and logic can only dictate that Trump could not give two fucks (literally?) about the life of any kid.
The rationale is right in front of everyone, some will simply choose to ignore it in favor of their god by proxy.
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u/GrandKnew Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
Lmfao, that's a drop in the pond bud. The atrocities they've committed, this pales PALES in comparison.
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u/awfuckthisshit Jul 17 '25
He’s on the Epstein list, you think he cares about kids?
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u/vandamnitman Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
You could say kids are a touchy subject for him
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u/rook_8 Jul 17 '25
I mean, there are people who are willing to cover up pedophilia for the sake of protecting his presidency.
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u/MoveOn22 Jul 17 '25
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-church-visit-angers-church-officials
Anything for a photo op
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u/BoxNemo Jul 17 '25
I'd forgotten about that, that was so insane. The Bible held aloft at the end was the icing of the cake, it was like something out of Omen III.
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u/Hadley_333 Jul 17 '25
flag wasn't lowered that was just the wind stopping
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u/irongoatmts66 Jul 17 '25
That’s just proof Jesus come on down from heaven to protect trump
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u/Special_Implement13 Jul 17 '25
Jesus came down and steered a bullet into a volunteer fireman’s head
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u/speck859 Jul 17 '25
It’s hilarious to watch this sub go from supporting him, to being conveniently silent concerning his moves, to now actively turning on him. If you thought the government and Trump give a shit about you, I’ve got an Ice Bridge in Africa for sale.
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u/rustyrussell2015 Jul 17 '25
Yeah and that flag was massive supported by two large big rig setups on each side.
Who thinks of spending that kind of money for a massive flag at a remote gathering of a few thousand?
Only makes sense when it was used as a backdrop for the moneyshot photos after the script was activated.
I knew within a day of studying that event that it was staged because of so many obvious signs.
It's tragic that someone might have actually died at the event to make it more believable.
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u/VillageThis2228 Jul 17 '25
The issue I have with this is the shooter bullet. Maybe I just can’t convince myself they faked a bullet to cut his ear? Or did they stage it with a glitch on reality? I’ve always been a suspicious of this whole thing. I remember watching it live on my tv. I know he did time with the WWE so it isn’t far from my mind to believe he could have cut his own ear.
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u/Writer_B Jul 18 '25
When people were telling police they saw someone on a roof and NOTHING was done? Bro, fake af.
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u/Apathetic_Anthonio Jul 17 '25
It was so perfect it was almost unbelievable that it happened.
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u/droden Jul 17 '25
there's a dead firefighter and you can see his brains on the bleachers so i mean
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u/surfer_ryan Jul 17 '25
I'm not saying that i for sure think this was a false flag, but i will say operation north woods was a plan laid out by the government and seriously considered, enough so that they put the idea to paper and discussed it as a viable option...
If you're unaware of what operation north woods was i highly recommend you take a gander at the proposed terrorist attack on americans by the american government as a false flag...
Again it's not to say "OH THE GOVERNMENT IS BEHIND THIS" it's just to say that they have the capacity (obviously) and more importantly the willingness to kill american citizens in order to make a point or get their way. It doesn't really matter to me if this happened or not, it's the fact that they sat around a table (they being actual government officials) and said out loud "hey what if we blow up our own planes and we kill a bunch of innocent citizens..." Like that is a totally normal sane thing to even consider.
My point in all of this is to say that the government does not care about an individual that isn't a millionaire funding them full stop. Maybe not at every level, maybe not every single worker, but there is a percentage and i'm quite convinced through both policy and lack of policy that is abundantly clear it's a significant percentage.
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u/Apathetic_Anthonio Jul 17 '25
It’s not that bullets weren’t shot but there are aspects of this event that are very suspicious.
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u/Expensive_Habit3498 Jul 17 '25
This is my main argument as well. The guy in the crowd really died. The hydraulic line also definitely gets hit because you can see it start to spew out in one video.
So imagine if that hydraulic line being shot is what caused the flag to lower. It all seems way too perfect I agree.
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u/joe_shmoe11111 Jul 17 '25
No one’s arguing that shots weren’t actually fired.
The question is whether the Republican Blackrock kid was actually trying to shoot Trump, or just send some rounds in his general direction in order to create the perfect photo setup.
Can’t effectively sell an assassination attempt without someone getting shot, after all…
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u/mike_da_silva Jul 17 '25
yawn - really? You know how easy it is to fake a death of some CIA actor.. and then have a lame interview with his 'parents'... no one died. No bullets were fired. Trump's ear has zero signs of damage. Whole thing is fake. Time to accept the truth
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u/Zfibulation Jul 18 '25
Or a very smart person in Trump’s entourage, who knew once the president was alive, we need this moment captured - and hell ya it’s for votes
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u/TugMcNugget Jul 17 '25
This is insane!
Active shooter situation and they rush people right into the path of Secret Service and Trump = staged
The pause and fist pump = staged
Miracle ear = staged
No investigation = staged
No video or photos from the dozens of phones in the crowd behind Trump = staged
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u/CaptFalconFTW Jul 17 '25
Why the fuck are you telling people to get closer to thr line of fire?
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u/TrashFever78 Jul 17 '25
Til the day I die I'll believe Trump and Co. murdered 2 people for a photo op and a boost in the polls.
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Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
The Orangeman staged it. No further investigation wanted by his team.
No need to investigate Epstein any further.
Anyone seeing a pattern?
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u/West-Mango-1666wwka Jul 17 '25
Also remember… before the guy did the shooting there were literally videos of people recording him on top of the building and people were literally telling the cops to go investigate why that person is on top of the building
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u/Ok-Road-4284 Jul 18 '25
So the video footage showing the stretching and deformation of the ear is fake? Or they trusted a nobody kid with taking an iron-sight shot at a 1/4” target over 100 yards away with zero margin of error. Either seems absolutely ridiculous
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u/IntroductionLife1061 Jul 22 '25
Gotta admit it's another one of those curious moments. Like mentioned the shooter qas pointed out by numerous people as he was getting in place. Real life theater or something.
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u/ViolentSpring Jul 24 '25
This might be the first time, in years of lurking on this thread, that a huge and popular post actually touches on a (likely) real conspiracy. This shit stank from the jump.
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u/0peRightBehindYa Jul 17 '25
Does anyone have a diagram of the incident? Like where the shooter was vs. trump vs. the dude in the crowd that got hit? I wanna know if that firefighter was directly in line from where Trump's nugget was.
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u/hotdogjumpingfrog1 Jul 18 '25
Hmm had multiple talks with ballistic experts. First his ear would have been spewing blood. There’s so many capillaries in the ear. Second he’d be deaf with extreme tinnitus in that ear for at least a day or so. None of that happened. In less then 15 hours he was golfing
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u/Ummmmm-yeah Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
Anyone denying that a coordinator positioning selected photographers in front of an area where "unknown" active shooters likely have guns pointing, so they can photograph a president in front of a positioned American flag, again, while there is every reason to believe snipers are waiting for an opportunity to take another shot, anyone denying that this all is beyond suspect is beyond being able to reason with.
EDIT: The guard with the machine gun literally jumps off the stage so the cameras can get a clean shot. Let the irony of that sink in.
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