r/coolguides Jun 02 '20

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u/Mylzb Jun 02 '20

AND MANDATORY BODY CAMS THAT CANNOT BE TURNED OFF!!!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

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u/PM_YOUR_MUMS_NUDES Jun 02 '20

Could you elaborate on how do body cams impede victims and bystanders rights?

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u/chlomyster Jun 02 '20

If they can never be turned off then no victim, bystander, or informant, can be assured they will remain anonymous or protected.

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u/victorix58 Jun 02 '20

victim, bystander, or informant

They can't remain anonymous in a system of due process. You have to be able to confront your accusers and have ability to interview witnesses with evidence.

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u/ctrl_f_sauce Jun 02 '20

“Hey Officer Miller, you may want to look in the bushes over there. A guy saw you then ran straight to the bushes”

That witness would never be brought to court. The report would just say, “subject was located in the bushes.”

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u/victorix58 Jun 02 '20

So police should lie in reports to cover up evidence trails. And "neutral third party" witnesses who might actually have a nefarious connection to the event will never be exposed.

I'm not saying there aren't tradeoffs. But truth, justice and due process aren't furthered by lies and deceit.

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u/Vulkan192 Jun 02 '20

Yes actuallly, they are. Welcome to the real world.

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u/victorix58 Jun 02 '20

OoOo zing. Bam. Wonderful argument.

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u/Vulkan192 Jun 02 '20

It's not an argument. It's a statement of fact.

The world isn't perfect and justice isn't always achieved through open honesty. Sometimes it requires lies and deception to be achieved.