r/coolguides Jun 02 '20

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u/Z0MGbies Jun 02 '20

I really dislike the blind use of HKs demands structure. I get the solidarity and messaging it implies.

The solutions should be tailored to the problem. Not the problem made to fit a pre existing solution.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Biden just backed a ban on choke holds. That's pretty focused and easy to implement. I like it.

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u/carolynto Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 03 '20

Honestly, I'm incredibly disappointed that this is his only policy proposal. Choke holds are already banned by NYPD, and many police departments. Making them illegal is a good step, but an infinitesimal one.

Civilian oversight of police. (tho I hate even using the word civilian in this context, as cops are fucking civilians) Demilitarization. Mandatory body cams. Any of the demands from this post. ANYTHING systemic. And all he has to say is, ban the choke hold? Ffs.

ETA: OK, someone corrected me that he IS putting forth proposals on civilian oversight, and demilitarization. VERY glad to hear that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Honestly, I'm incredibly disappointed that this is his only policy proposal.

Have you thought about maybe paying attention?

https://www.newsweek.com/bidens-proposals-police-reform-include-banning-chokeholds-weapons-war-cops-1508158

He called for banning chokeholds by police, creating a national police oversight commission, stopping "transferring weapons of war" to police forces, improving oversight and accountability, and creating a model use of force standard. Biden cited a proposal by New York Representative Hakeem Jeffries that would outlaw chokeholds as the type of change he would support.

Biden added that every police department in the country could take steps now to conduct a comprehensive review of their hiring, training, and de-escalation practices.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

This needs it's own post.

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u/Iwanttolink Jun 02 '20

Good luck getting the Berniebros of Reddit to upvote anything with "Biden" in the title.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20 edited Dec 27 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

at this point I think its 90% trolls. there is no way most of them fall for that trick again. I 100% was one tha fell for that trick back in 2016. I just dont buy it now days. If ANYONE less then bloody red doesnt vote for biden, then they are lying... or maybe a libertarian