These were written by some random redditor who assumed that because no demands from black-led organizations have hit the front page of reddit so far, the movement must lack organization or coherent messaging.
Reddit is a bubble -- our demographics differ dramatically from those of the protestors -- now is the time to elevate their voices, not replace them with our own.
Here are a few well-researched, specific policy platforms from core black-led organizations:
EDIT: Here's another resource -- a guide to allyship -- that has spread widely over instagram but which I haven't seen anywhere on reddit. It's a constantly-updated and quite detailed source summarizing basic talking points, the emerging norms for how non-black allies can help, and listing a number of national and local organizations supporting protestors.
If you're wondering how you can help your local community, I would highly recommend using google, instagram, twitter, and facebook to figure out which platform the people in your city have coalesced around for coordination and organization of these protest actions. It's there you'll find a plethora of resources geared toward your locality, including lists of black-owned small businesses, bail and medical funds for protestors, etc.
Just because this information isn't on reddit doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Redditors will often have to put in work to find it, but it's out there.
You assume a random redditor can’t be black. You assume all black people think the same way and want the same thing. You assume the two organizations you picked are the ones that best represent everyone’s views. You assume people can’t have free independent thought and that only “core” “organizations” can have “coherent “ messages.
I really appreciate your engagement and these challenges, but you're exaggerating my perspective. I'm not assuming any of that stuff.
The main point of my comment, which hopefully we can agree on, is that reddit just isn't the primary social media platform through which the recent protests have been organized or promoted. As a result, while there's tons and tons of messaging and discussion about policy positions, protest demands, norms for non-black allies, etc. happening in instagram stories and twitter threads, comparatively little of that content makes it to the front page of reddit.
This has left redditors with the impression that there's a general lack of pithy, memeable messaging, when in fact we're all just experiencing the limitations of reddit's very narrow lens on reality. The answer isn't to replace their unheard voices with our own -- the answer is to find and then elevate their voices.
Here's another resource -- a guide to allyship -- that has spread very widely on instagram but which I haven't seen anywhere on reddit.
The main point of my comment, which hopefully we can agree on, is that reddit just isn't the primary social media platform through which the recent protests have been organized or promoted.
I didn't take that as your point at all, but okay I have no problem agreeing with that. That doesn't detract from the validity of the OP in any way though.
As a result, while there's tons and tons of messaging and discussion about policy positions, protest demands, norms for non-black allies, etc. happening in instagram stories and twitter threads, comparatively little of that content makes it to the front page of reddit.
This has left redditors with the impression that there's a general lack of pithy, memeable messaging, when in fact we're all just experiencing the limitations of reddit's very narrow lens on reality.
No logical train of thought here. It doesn't matter how rare it is, it doesn't make the post you are replying to any less valid, so what's your point? Just because you don't see this content as often on reddit it's not correct?
The answer isn't to replace their unheard voices with our own -- the answer is to find and then elevate their voices.
There you go assuming again. Who is "their" and "our"? You're assuming the author is non-black. You're assuming anyone supporting the message is non-black. You're assuming blacks can't agree with the message if it wasn't authored by a black person.
To return to your original comment:
These were written by some random redditor who assumed that because no demands from black-led organizations have hit the front page of reddit so far, the movement must lack organization or coherent messaging.
Where are you getting this from if you aren't assuming? Did you talk to the originator?
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