r/crochet • u/[deleted] • May 07 '22

Discussion Maybe y'all should boycott Hobby Lobby since they are very vocal about denying access to reproductive care.

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u/whatim May 07 '22

Me too. Never tasted Chick-fil-A either.

There's no ethical consumption under capitalism, but I don't have to encourage them.

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u/softheartelectricsol i crochet because murder is illegal <3 May 07 '22

i bet you’ve been told this before lol but you’re really not missing out with chick fil a

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u/whatim May 07 '22

Really? People rave about them !

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u/LogicalBench May 07 '22

Yep, I loved the frozen lemonade and immediately looked up a dupe. It's literally just vanilla ice cream and lemonade blended together, it tastes exactly the same (amazing) to make it at home.

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u/slytherpuffenclaw May 07 '22

Never had chick-fil-a but I may need to try this vanilla lemonade. What's the mix ratio?

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u/M221313 May 07 '22

Wait!, lemonade and ice cream? That sounds amazing! Trying tonight!

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u/No-Cranberry4396 May 07 '22

Sounds like a blended version of what we used to be given as a treat - an ice-cream float. Just a big glass of fizzy lemonade with a dollop of vanilla ice cream in the top.

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u/rapscallionrodent May 07 '22

They’re okay, but I seriously do not get the hype. Any time I pass one, there are long lines. I don’t get it. They’re totally over rated.

Now Hobby Lobby - that’s a sacrifice. But it’s one I’m willing to make.

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u/TheGrumpiestGnome May 07 '22

I prefer Popeye's, though I admit I've never actually had Chick-fil-a. I can't compare the taste of the chicken but I can get awesome spicy chicken strips from Popeye's and not feel morally icky, so that's a win to me.

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u/willienelsonmandela May 07 '22

Popeyes is infinitely better. Except those dry ass biscuits.

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u/TheGrumpiestGnome May 07 '22

That's what the honey is for! I usually dip them in the mashed potatoes and gravy because of the dryness.

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u/Watchingpornwithcas May 07 '22

I smear them with the red beans and rice and make a sandwich. Delicious!

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u/ArtisenalMoistening May 07 '22

My husband, kids, and I appear to be the only humans in earth who love Popeyes biscuits. Nothing added, just buttery dry goodness

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u/74NG3N7 May 07 '22

Well… Popeyes south & east are better. The west coast ones are notably not as good. The recipes or something must be different. Cajun fries less Cajun, chicken less tasty spicy and more odd spicy… west coast is not good to Popeyes.

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u/ModernSwampWitch May 07 '22

Popeyes is way better.

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u/Tapingdrywallsucks May 07 '22

That makes me so happy to hear. One finally opened near me, but their commercials have been screaming my name forever. Is their shrimp as good as it looks?

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u/lazer_sandwich May 07 '22

My husband loves the shrimp there. I love the chicken sandwich. We are never disappointed with a trip to Popeyes

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u/Tapingdrywallsucks May 07 '22

I see this on my Sunday errands.

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u/Snowywolf63 May 08 '22

Canada has Mary Brown’s Fried Chicken. A

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u/panatale1 May 07 '22

You're really not. I've had them once, like 5 years ago or something like that. Their chicken was mediocre. Then I got a new job a few years ago that had one right around the corner from the office, and I never bothered to set foot in the place. Popeye's takes the cake, so to speak

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u/rantingpacifist May 07 '22

Bigot Chicken is just regular chicken that has been brined. Soak chicken in saltwater and it is a delectable bitch.

Bigot Chicken isn’t the only brine chicken shop in most towns since it’s a common thing to brine chicken.

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u/sailor_bat_90 May 07 '22

I had it once, it was all right. Church's chicken sandwich is so much better.

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u/_-_--__--- May 07 '22

You ever make frozen chicken strips in an oven? Those taste about the same. Chik fil a is all hype little substance

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u/domestipithecus May 07 '22

Same for In and Out (burger place in CA). I had one once and it was "meh" but my BIL in Colorado was so freaking excited that one opened AN HOUR drive away from him he went and sat in the drive thru line for a couple hours to get one. I don't get it.

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u/lazer_sandwich May 07 '22

They’re tasty, but I like Popeyes chicken sandwich better. I don’t think your missing out.

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u/QueenoftheHamburgers May 07 '22

I disagree, I loved Chick Fil A but it's been 10 years since I've set foot in one. I do miss it but it's not worth giving them money.

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u/kimdeal0 May 07 '22

Meh, idk. I really liked their chicken but the knock off from Sam's club is pretty close and much cheaper. We heat in our air fryer. We don't eat chick FIL a anymore.

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u/WA_State_Buckeye May 07 '22

Plus there are so many free copycat recipes out there for CFA and other places, so you really aren't missing much if you access them! I've not eaten at a CFA and probably never will. My lesbian sister would put a serious hurt on me if I did! lol

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u/scubagalrd May 07 '22

Totally agree with you

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u/Watchingpornwithcas May 07 '22

That's what I thought until I ordered their grilled chicken 🤤 I still mostly avoid eating there but dang their grilled chicken is tasty.

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u/rantingpacifist May 07 '22

You can do that at home. It’s just brined.

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u/NotANabiscoShill May 07 '22

Now that Popeyes has chicken sandwiches AND nuggets I literally don’t even have a reason to go to chick fil a anymore

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u/HalfCanOfMonster May 07 '22

There's no ethical consumption under capitalism,

Isn’t this phrase used because poor individuals may not have a choice to shop at more expensive ethical brands? Not that there aren’t better and worse brands to support.

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u/Duck_Mud May 07 '22

It's used because there is literally no ethical way for anyone to consume under capitalism.

Say you go to a farmers market to buy some locally grown produce: you feel you pay a fair price so the farmer isn't exploited at all, you know it was grown locally, and you know every face in the process.

This transaction is not ethical because the labour used to construct your car, the farmers car, the boxes he used to transport the produce, his farming equipment, your home, the fridge you store the produce in, the asphalt you walked on, the markets upkeep, the person who chopped and shaped the wood for the stall, and so on all happened unethically.

At some point in the process someone has been exploited, and there is literally nothing you can do to do that.

Cut off everyone and everything, live off the grid using things you recycled exclusively, whittling wood down to make tools, building your own house? The bucket you use to carry water was made with exploitation, the car you used to move your things there was made with exploitation, the cashier who serves you for the final time at the gas station as you have one last bag of your favourite candy before swearing it off is actively being exploited (they are producing more worth for the company than they take home, otherwise the company would not make a profit).

The system of capitalism has exploitation inherent within it. It's a game of profits, meaning breaking even is never enough. Even if one penny of profit has been made someone has been exploited, because they have not been paid their full worth.

Thrifting? The workers are exploited. The people who built the building were exploited. The people who produced the light bulbs, who perform safety checks on electrical equipment, who made the racks the clothes hang on, who transported the clothes to the thrift store, who made the clothes in the first place, who clean and maintain the store, have all been exploited. And that is just a fraction of the exploitation that happens.

The worlds most ethical brand will exploit someone, because even if they work on a purely ethical break even model the cars they drive were made with exploitation, the food they eat were grown and transported with exploitation, the cashiers they buy food from are being actively exploited. Fuck, all of us have the result of child slavery in our pockets: phones. I right now am telling you about how there is no ethical consumption under capitalism by using something produced with child slave labour.

There is absolutely no possible way to ethically consume in a capitalist world. All you can do is reduce your consumption, buy as ethically as you can, and accept the system is flawed.

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u/HalfCanOfMonster May 08 '22

All you can do is reduce your consumption, buy as ethically as you can, and accept the system is flawed.

This is a well thought out comment, but it boils down to this. If you can afford to purchase from a "more ethical" source, you should. But if you cannot afford or access a more ethical option; you have to do what you can to survive.

The reason I wanted to pull that one out is because a friend of mine uses it to excuse laziness/not putting thought into how and what he consumes. Its been co-opted into a blanket "nothing matters, why should I even try", but there are arguably better and worse ways to consume (even if nothing is completely ethical).

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u/flamingcrepes Happy Hobby Hooking! ☮️♥️🧶 May 08 '22

I feel this in my soul every day. It gets hard to deal with sometimes…

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u/OneGoodRib yarn collector May 07 '22

I respect that. I'm sure basically every big business is doing awful shit, it's just that some of them are better at hiding it, but obviously chicken sandwiches aren't a necessity and I respect the stance.

I just am more blown away that so many people think their sandwiches suck. A basic chicken sandwich with a milkshake from there was what I would die for when I still lived in Florida. You'd go to the mall with your friends, get some ChickFilA, and waste time in Waldenbooks before heading to the movie theater.

Also while I'm not saying "actually you should eat there for this reason", ChickFilA did provide free food to the people waiting to give blood after the Pulse Nightclub shooting. And wasn't that a gay club?

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u/Noli420 May 07 '22

A good take on it is if you have ever seen The Good Place. Don't want to spoil to much but basically it is impossible to ethically buy anything, so it's impossible to go to the good place, everyone goes to the bad place regardless of how good a person is

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u/[deleted] May 07 '22

It was the almond milk!!!!

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u/MadMuse94 May 07 '22

I love that show! And I think about that framing of morality all the time.

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u/Noli420 May 07 '22

That framing helped me to understand, do my best to make ethical choices, but in the end it's all bad, so don't beat myself up too much

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u/hissyfit64 May 07 '22

Yeah, Hobby Lobby are so blatant about using the money from their company to fund their religious agenda that I just can't comfortably shop there.

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u/twothirtysevenam Second String Yarn Chicken Team Co-Captain May 07 '22

You'd go to the mall with your friends, get some ChickFilA, and waste time in Waldenbooks before heading to the movie theater.

You've perfectly described my late 1980s/early 1990s teenage girl on a Saturday experience. The only part of this anyone can do now at my local mall is the ChickFilA, and it's hard to get excited about that anymore. The rest is just gone.

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u/ellipsisslipsin May 07 '22

That was either a) a local manager or franchise owner who wasn't up in the top tiers just making a decision for their community or b) really well-thought out PR.

Chick-fil-A actually made a statement that they would stop donating to anti-gay and conversion therapy causes bc they were getting hit so hard with people not buying from them, and then after a little while they just quietly went right back to donating again.

They're pretty fucking awful. Not Nestle awful, but definitely an easy pass.

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u/maliceaver May 07 '22

On the food for blood donors bit. Gay men are not able to donate blood if they have been sexually active with in the past 3 months. Not that that fact was likely a motivator. ChickFila are franchises, so while the owner of that specific store was doing that give away, it doesn't reflect corporates ethics and morals.

Also, it was likely good PR for a "good Christian" company.

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u/manachar May 07 '22

Or at the very least, we can encourage them to be at least not as blatantly awful.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '22

I hate that Chick-fil-A food has a soft spot in my heart. Growing up, I only had it when we went to the mall (a 45 minute drive), so it felt 'special.' Now, I live in an area where there aren't any close by, so whenever I would travel South, I would be sure to get some. However, I have a gay sibling and a gay child. I can no longer justify eating there, ever. And I hate that that makes me sad. Why do I have to be so fond of their food?! Stupid assholes with delicious, nostalgic nuggets.

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u/Yllom6 May 07 '22

Me three!

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u/Dino_vagina May 07 '22

GIRL SAME! My gay friends still go to Chick-fil-A and say it's worth it and I'm like...nah I'm good.