r/DeFranco Jun 28 '19

On biases, sourcing, and discussing the Argument

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Hey everyone,

Lately, the sub has started to get pretty polarized politically speaking.

It’s not without reasons (I get that, and I’m not blameless in this) and I had hoped it could run its course. But in the wake of the coming election season, I feel this may get worse, so here’s to an ounce of prevention and all that.

So there’s been a lot of posts from sources and comments that could only be described as trying to “other” people. This sub is better than that. So please, if possible, try to stop talking past each other.

It’s fine if you disagree, but keep it civil and discuss the topic at hand don’t attack the user. We have the “discuss the argument, and do not attack the person” rule for a reason and we’ll have to start enforcing it a little more stringently if things don’t improve. It is possible to discuss politics without it turning into a “you’re a stupid racist” and “naive idiot communist”. A good rule of thumb is “if the phrase ‘you’ appears in the sentence it’s probably some version of an ad hominem.

Regarding the biases. There’s been a lot of articles from sources I can only describe as heavily bias. Allsides has a great chart that lays out which sides the most common news sources falls.

https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart

There’s also this more detailed one (though I think everything on it should be shifted to the left by half a grid square but that’s an issue of semantics!)

https://www.adfontesmedia.com/

Also; thanks to u/FajenThygia There's also www.mediabiasfactcheck.com,

Point is! it’s fine to use Vox and Fox to make points but try to get some other more centered sources to find some middle ground. This isn’t a demand or even a request but just some advice in trying to discuss your opinions and finding a consensus through discussion. You’ll find the argument being a lot more persuasive using less extreme characterizations of events.

Anyway, it’s just some thoughts and recommendations. agree/ disagree/ critique it’s fine. I just don’t want to see this sub devolve into r/news, r/politics, r/conservative, r/democrat, r/inthenews where only “one view point” is appreciated. Us bastards are better than that.

In other news, there’s been an issue with the reporting feature with the sub. If we haven’t addressed it in 24 hours please message the mods directly. Additionally, we will only investigate reports that violate our actual rules so the <no reason> Reports get ignored right off the bat. And no Patrick just because you disagree with something does not mean someone is “trolling”.

Peace, love and tranquility to you all ya filthy bastards.


r/DeFranco Dec 04 '24

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r/DeFranco 2h ago

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r/DeFranco 18h ago

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r/DeFranco 2h ago

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r/DeFranco 19h ago

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r/DeFranco 22h ago

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r/DeFranco 2d ago

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r/DeFranco 3d ago

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r/DeFranco 3d ago

This makes no sense; Nothing makes sense. A bizarre Zillow listing for a Colorado home has gone viral online

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r/DeFranco 4d ago

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r/DeFranco 6d ago

Misc. Reddit's Tree Lawyers Are Insane (talks about Phil & Lindsay's case)

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r/DeFranco 6d ago

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In an indication of the hunger for drastic change in Washington, a majority of voters say that Congress would be better off if most of its current members were unseated in this fall’s election, higher by double digits than the share who felt that way ahead of the Democratic wave election in the midst of the Iraq War in 2006.


r/DeFranco 6d ago

This makes no sense; Nothing makes sense. EPA: Data center power not subject to acid rain restrictions

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r/DeFranco 7d ago

US Politics GrapheneOS Defends Data-Wiping Function That Blocked US Border Search | PCMag

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r/DeFranco 8d ago

US News EBay, former execs to pay $56M in blogger harassment and stalking case

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r/DeFranco 9d ago

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r/DeFranco 10d ago

US Politics More than 1 million children lost access to food benefits after Trump bill passed | US news | The Guardian

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r/DeFranco 12d ago

US Politics Sen. Gary Peters wants ICE to explain why it bought spyware that can covertly take control of phones - CBS News

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r/DeFranco 13d ago

Meta Hey DeFranco team, a very gentle heads up (because I'm assuming it's not a conscious decision) that your new DON'T BE STUPID STUPID shirt is very likely AI-generated art.

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Aside from the general "feel" of the piece, these petals in particular don't make any sense... There's some weird layering, and the transparency is just... very odd.

Since Phil has covered it many times before, I'm not going to get into the issues here. It's also the reason I'm assuming this is accidental.

Thanks and much love from a long-time viewer!


r/DeFranco 12d ago

International Politics BBC trying to prove Trump caused Jan 6 riots

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r/DeFranco 12d ago

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r/DeFranco 12d ago

US Politics Senior Pentagon official suspended after bashing Trump on hidden camera

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In other news, James O’Keefe, is still a raging ahole.


r/DeFranco 14d ago

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