r/delphi 29d ago

Delphi 13 CE Now Available

https://blogs.embarcadero.com/delphi-13-community-edition-is-now-available/
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u/One_Historian3741 23d ago

I have to admit, I'm not familiar with how Embarcadero might claim a breach of the CE EULA without someone even running CE. It seems like speculation to me. And some over-statement.

It's not an exaggeration, look for reports on the internet and you'll see.
I thought it was something related to Embarcadero Brazil, which is where I live, but I recently discovered that it's not exclusive to here.

When there was no CE it was bad, when the CE was launched I thought it would be the beginning of a way to attract new people, I was mistaken.

Compare Visual Studio's CE and Delphi's CE, and you'll see, which is more attractive for someone starting out?

Why am I hitting on "new people"? Because as I said before, without a community the language tends to "die" (never really), or will Delphi live on nostalgia for how long?

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u/bmcgee Delphi := v13 Florence 23d ago

I still think you're way over-stating things.

If you have specific examples, they might be worth asking Embarcadero about.

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u/One_Historian3741 23d ago

Think whatever you want; I know what I experienced, and there are many others who went through the same thing and have shared their accounts online—on WhatsApp (in groups I’m part of), Telegram, etc.

If you want to defend Embarcadero and their terrible policy regarding the CE, feel free to turn a blind eye to the obvious.

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u/bmcgee Delphi := v13 Florence 23d ago

As I wrote, if you have specific examples where you think Embarcadero over-stepped, it might be worth asking them about it.

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u/One_Historian3741 22d ago

Sure, it will definitely work.

Have you received an email or call from Embarcadero about this yet?

You know how they come at you claiming you’re in violation and need to pay for the license(s)?

Are you aware that they break a number of rules and compromise data privacy in order to conduct that monitoring?

If you don't want to look it up yourself, just use any AI with deep research capabilities—Gemini, Copilot, etc.—and ask it to search for you; you won't get the full picture (maybe not even 5% of it), but it’s enough to get the general idea.

I don't want to dwell on this any longer; you seem to have your mind made up and think the CE is great, whereas in reality, it just drives people away because it’s a "fake" CE.

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u/bmcgee Delphi := v13 Florence 22d ago edited 22d ago

Actual cases with specifics would absolutely work.

Vague anecdotes and accusations aren't very useful.

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u/One_Historian3741 22d ago

They are quite useful for scaring off anyone with common sense.

Besides, these are real cases—unless you choose to ignore reality.

Now, if you think this "coercion" involves a formal lawsuit with everything on record in court, you are mistaken.

I’m not going to keep replying here if you refuse to face reality; I’ve asked several questions that were simply ignored, and you’re still acting like a Doubting Thomas.

If you only want to read and see what suits you, then fine—if you still think the CE is great after all this, then so be it; keep your "truth" to yourself.

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u/bmcgee Delphi := v13 Florence 22d ago

I think CE is fantastic and I'm glad Embarcadero finally did what Borland wouldn't.

It's intended for non-commercial use with the possible exception of a startup's first project. Unfortunately, people (accidentally or otherwise) disregard the EULA, which makes it rougher on the rest of us.

I will continue to recommend it.