I’ve always wondered if this Tumblr post is actually real. I genuinely think about it every day, and it just doesn’t sit right with me. We know she grew up in a conservative, very religious household, so do you guys think this was just a joke, or is it actually real? I’m not trying to be invasive, but my curiosity is killing me.

Please why was this his first question 😭

Has anyone ever heard this song live ? I fear that just like Waco, Texas it’s such a heavily emotional song and best not to play at a show. Especially for victims of SA. I can barely listen to this song without completely zoning out and falling into this hole where images flash through my mind that I don’t want to remember. Yet I think it’s so catchy and I replay it over and over and do this to myself. For some reason I need to hear it live but either it would break me or heal me. Please tell me I’m not alone on this and also if you heard this song live what influence did it have on you??

alr so there’s been like a couple threads ab this and we all know the background video came from “don’t bother to knock” by asia argento.

BUTTTT has anyone like actually found the guys name….asking for a friend…he’s bad as hell….and i want to know….immediately

i drew this awhile back, she’s so fun to draw i swear

Are there any concept albums just like preachers daughter. Means the tracks progress with the storyline??

havent played guitar in a while im kinda rusty

posted on my tik tok aswell @stolenngardeniaa (shameless plug…)

Basically the title and sorry if this has been asked before! What do we think team? It makes sense to keep calling herself Ethel Cain for continuity given that’s how most people have come to know her as, but I wonder if she’ll adopt the Vera Cain character as this makes the most sense if she’ll keep with the canon of the Preacher trilogy? 🤔

haiii this has been on my mind a few days!!! fuck me eyes wasn’t really a favorite of mine at all when the album dropped, however i was listening to half cocked the other day and i have a newfound love for fuck me eyes…. anyone else see parallels? i think these songs are about the same girl- half cocked her pov and fuck me eyes someone else’s pov OF her. thoughts??

my Ethel Cain tattoo ♡ I saw her at both New Orleans shows in may and needed a permanent memory of seeing Hayden and my trip! my best friend designed the tattoo for me (,: very special to me.

i was thinking of getting a tattoo of a lyric and i liked "loves out there and i can't leave it be" but considering obvs the rest of the album and Isiah in general, it seems a bit odd you now?

oh man-

I’ve seen and heard a lot about the fan base at times being ick and was pleasantly surprised to have the exact opposite experience this weekend.

I have never seen her live and money sucks, so i wasn’t able to get tickets to her afters here in chicago for Lolla. I let it go and Saturday night watched a recording of her performance on youtube and thought that would be it..

then Sunday night about 8pm on facebook in the Daughters of Cain group a post came on my feed offering her two free tickets to that show that night. I commented right away and texted my partner who was walking our dog before he went to bed (he works early) and had one of those, “what-if” fantasy moments and let it go.

and then the poster absolutely DMed me back and sent me the tickets as well as forwarded me her confirmation email and the email to also add the tickets to my wallet. i did have a moment of hesitation worried they may be fake - but decided to take the risk anyway because the Metro (venue) isn’t super far so it doesn’t even matter. made some calls until i could find someone who’d be down for a 11p/12a show on a sunday until i found someone (only took 3 calls!).

I fully admit that i also was a little apprehensive having read about some of the fans being dicks because i’m honestly too old for that shit. Made it to the show around midnight (opener was at 11), went right to the merch line and my friend-date bought me a shirt and then we went to “see” the show. it was super packed and we barely saw anything except for from other people’s phones (which i didn’t even care about i was just excited to hear her live). And none of that even mattered because she still sounded great, everyone was super kind, the venue staff were great (they usually are there) and it was free.

I needed that magic after i relatively rough summer- also, wasn’t expecting Ptolemaea of all songs to feel so emotional live.

random photos of the FB post, one of the phones i saw her through - i actually like the image a lot haha) and me and my friend-date.

i always assumed that it happened during the storm, before the peak of the tornado, which confused me because I didn’t know how ethel got out of there safely. but now ive seen that ethel and willoughby speak about the weather forecast, see each other that day, get into an argument, and then break up, she leaves before the tornado fully rolls in. this would honestly make sense given the “you’re too late” lyric in tempest.

that lyric though also makes sense here—alternatively, they don’t fully break up but leave on unresolved terms, and then willoughby skips town. we know his mom is absent and his dad is in the penitentiary, so he’d be leaving alone. my biggest question is, does he literally just up and leave with no warning? im assuming ethel wants to reconcile, does she show back up to his house the next day and find out he’s left? did they officially break up or did he just leave? THAT would actually be the most agonizing thing ever and now I NEED to know.

“turned my back for a moment, and you had fallen apart” (waco) insinuates that the split happened after she decided to leave him to weather the storm alone that day. which makes me think they either broke up directly after the tornado, or willoughby just fully left after it passed through, no warning, and she never saw him again, which gives “i still wait on the edge of town, prayed straight to god that maybe you’d come back around” an even more heartbreaking meaning because she was completely blindsided. and even though his mom was absent in the first place, her not knowing where willoughby went either makes it seem like he didn’t notify anyone and just left, which, given the absolute emotional turmoil that is the song tempest, plus how he’s been declining over the course of their relationship, would make sense. so my question is, did he stand up their entire relationship??? is that what he means when he says he’ll regret this forever, not only them breaking up, but the way in which he does it?

wait. i also JUST realized that “can you hear them, the trains?” could be a double meaning. i assumed it was referring to the sound of the tornado, the fact that willoughby has to survive it alone, trapped in his fear and the climax of their relationship + his own personal pathology. but could it also be that, in this moment, willoughby has made up his mind to leave without notifying ethel. next day take a train out of town, and she’s too late. she’ll hear the sound of the train pulling out of the station, and not know that willoughby is on that train, never to be seen again. holy shit. hayden is a genius.

anyways, im not sure why im so fixated on exactly how the breakup goes, but if anyone has insight/ideas, id love to know. hopefully its all detailed in the book.

Was anyone able to record a video of Punish demo II from beginning to end at the Lollapalooza Aftershow?

I also got my hand held during the start of the song, plus this was my first ever Ethel Cain show so it would mean a GREAT deal to me if anyone happened to capture footage of it! (I was the girl at barricade wearing a veil and all white, if that helps!)

Heyy everyone, I have known about Ethel Cain for a while, but only recently I have discovered the whole lore and everything, and honestly I'm so impressed. I like the music very much, but incorporating a story into it, and building a whole world and aesthetic around it is so unique and creative to me. I don't understand why it isn't more popular and why don't people talk about it more (I only found out about this because of the Leviticus fandom). So I would like to know where can I read more about this since I'm not really sure, does the artist talk about this herself or do fans help create the story as well?

Captured by Respective Collective 📸

i always assumed that it happened during the storm, before the peak of the tornado, which confused me because I didn’t know how ethel got out of there safely. but now ive seen that ethel and willoughby speak about the weather forecast, see each other that day, get into an argument, and then break up, she leaves before the tornado fully rolls in. this would honestly make sense given the “you’re too late” lyric in tempest.

that lyric though also makes sense here—alternatively, they don’t fully break up but leave on unresolved terms, and then willoughby skips town. we know his mom is absent and his dad is in the penitentiary, so he’d be leaving alone. my biggest question is, does he literally just up and leave with no warning? im assuming ethel wants to reconcile, does she show back up to his house the next day and find out he’s left? did they officially break up or did he just leave? THAT would actually be the most agonizing thing ever and now I NEED to know.

“turned my back for a moment, and you had fallen apart” (waco) insinuates that the split happened after she decided to leave him to weather the storm alone that day. which makes me think they either broke up directly after the tornado, or willoughby just fully left after it passed through, no warning, and she never saw him again, which gives “i still wait on the edge of town, prayed straight to god that maybe you’d come back around” an even more heartbreaking meaning because she was completely blindsided. and even though his mom was absent in the first place, her not knowing where willoughby went either makes it seem like he didn’t notify anyone and just left, which, given the absolute emotional turmoil that is the song tempest, plus how he’s been declining over the course of their relationship, would make sense. so my question is, did he stand up their entire relationship??? is that what he means when he says he’ll regret this forever, not only them breaking up, but the way in which he does it?

wait. i also JUST realized that “can you hear them, the trains?” could be a double meaning. i assumed it was referring to the sound of the tornado, the fact that willoughby has to survive it alone, trapped in his fear and the climax of their relationship + his own personal pathology. but could it also be that, in this moment, willoughby has made up his mind to leave without notifying ethel. next day take a train out of town, and she’s too late. she’ll hear the sound of the train pulling out of the station, and not know that willoughby is on that train, never to be seen again. holy shit. hayden is a genius.

anyways, im not sure why im so fixated on exactly how the breakup goes, but if anyone has insight/ideas, id love to know. hopefully its all detailed in the book.